Pay demands follow inflation as surely as night follows day.
Where were the unions when governments were locking down? Where was their pushback then?
They only wanted more of it.
Last edited 1 year ago by Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
1 year ago
Pay demands follow inflation as surely as night follows day.
Where were the unions when governments were locking down? Where was their pushback then?
They only wanted more of it.
Last edited 1 year ago by Brendan O'Leary
Caroline Watson
1 year ago
So doctors aren’t middle class, then?
The unions taking action, with the exception of RMT and the postal workers, are overwhelmingly middle class or, like the train drivers, earn middle class wages. Why aren’t unions recruiting care workers and those who work in distribution centres and pulling them out on strike? They are the people who really need a pay rise. Probably because union hierarchies are too busy forcing women to accept men in frocks in workplace lavatories and hospital wards.
It is interesting that the Labour leadership has voiced its opposition to the railway and postal strikes, but has said nothing about those being held by doctors, teachers, university lecturers and civil servants. This is the group that used Covid to force lockdowns and destroy the economy, it is the group that still mourns for the EU, and the group that supports green ideology and UBI over jobs for the working class.
Not much taking back power there. They had it all along!
Caroline Watson
1 year ago
So doctors aren’t middle class, then?
The unions taking action, with the exception of RMT and the postal workers, are overwhelmingly middle class or, like the train drivers, earn middle class wages. Why aren’t unions recruiting care workers and those who work in distribution centres and pulling them out on strike? They are the people who really need a pay rise. Probably because union hierarchies are too busy forcing women to accept men in frocks in workplace lavatories and hospital wards.
It is interesting that the Labour leadership has voiced its opposition to the railway and postal strikes, but has said nothing about those being held by doctors, teachers, university lecturers and civil servants. This is the group that used Covid to force lockdowns and destroy the economy, it is the group that still mourns for the EU, and the group that supports green ideology and UBI over jobs for the working class.
Not much taking back power there. They had it all along!
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago
“Whatever the merits of the industrial action by various unions, their current campaigns are explicitly based on material interests.”
I have no objection to unions promoting the interests of their members. That’s what they’re for. What I do object to is their disingenuous claims that they’re doing it for our benefit.
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago
“Whatever the merits of the industrial action by various unions, their current campaigns are explicitly based on material interests.”
I have no objection to unions promoting the interests of their members. That’s what they’re for. What I do object to is their disingenuous claims that they’re doing it for our benefit.
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Striking working classes – do you know how much train drivers, emergency workers, nurses, civil servants and teachers make? This ain’t poverty stricken working classes – typical salaries of at least £30k plus, well above the national average wage.
These are left wing inspired and organised strikes merely directed at getting rid of the Tories. Ironically their actions will create a backlash against Labour. Idiots.
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Striking working classes – do you know how much train drivers, emergency workers, nurses, civil servants and teachers make? This ain’t poverty stricken working classes – typical salaries of at least £30k plus, well above the national average wage.
These are left wing inspired and organised strikes merely directed at getting rid of the Tories. Ironically their actions will create a backlash against Labour. Idiots.
Alex Colchester
1 year ago
As a degenerate rentier society we worship house-price-gains and record-company-profits yet can’t stand the idea of real workers earning wages that keep up with the real rate of inflation. Perhaps it’s because the rentier class can’t get at this cash?
Alex Colchester
1 year ago
As a degenerate rentier society we worship house-price-gains and record-company-profits yet can’t stand the idea of real workers earning wages that keep up with the real rate of inflation. Perhaps it’s because the rentier class can’t get at this cash?
Dog Eared
1 year ago
Whatever the merits of the industrial action by various unions, their current campaigns are explicitly based on material interests
Or in other words, greed. I’m uncertain about the cheery nature of this piece, the current wave of strikes are cynical and dispicable at a time of national pressures, particularly the trains.
I don’t agree with the tactics of Just Stop Oil, but their approach has to be completely different from a picket line, comparing the two seems absurd. They also have a valid motive, dismissing it as virtue signalling demonstrates an inadequate understanding of the issues.
I know many people in healthcare, particularly nurses, and the amount of work they put in compared to how little they get paid is almost criminal. It is not just about the money either, it is about the way they are treated as dispensable units by a bloated management layer that pays itself too much.
In contrast, Just Stop Oil have made no friends among the working class who have had to witness pampered rich kids block traffic and glue themselves to valuable cultural artifacts
Certainly you have two examples there that are both highly emotive but at the opposite ends of the spectrum. We all like nurses and want to be proud of their conditions, yet, I don’t agree with their actions and tbh, when including their whole package and benefits, it’s really not that bad, and everyone who works will gripe about how much work they have to do for the pay, so they are no different. I don’t agree with JSO actions either, they are ridiculous and have done more damage to their own cause than they could possibly realise. I do however sympathise with their motive.
Certainly you have two examples there that are both highly emotive but at the opposite ends of the spectrum. We all like nurses and want to be proud of their conditions, yet, I don’t agree with their actions and tbh, when including their whole package and benefits, it’s really not that bad, and everyone who works will gripe about how much work they have to do for the pay, so they are no different. I don’t agree with JSO actions either, they are ridiculous and have done more damage to their own cause than they could possibly realise. I do however sympathise with their motive.
I know many people in healthcare, particularly nurses, and the amount of work they put in compared to how little they get paid is almost criminal. It is not just about the money either, it is about the way they are treated as dispensable units by a bloated management layer that pays itself too much.
In contrast, Just Stop Oil have made no friends among the working class who have had to witness pampered rich kids block traffic and glue themselves to valuable cultural artifacts
Dog Eared
1 year ago
Whatever the merits of the industrial action by various unions, their current campaigns are explicitly based on material interests
Or in other words, greed. I’m uncertain about the cheery nature of this piece, the current wave of strikes are cynical and dispicable at a time of national pressures, particularly the trains.
I don’t agree with the tactics of Just Stop Oil, but their approach has to be completely different from a picket line, comparing the two seems absurd. They also have a valid motive, dismissing it as virtue signalling demonstrates an inadequate understanding of the issues.
Pay demands follow inflation as surely as night follows day.
Where were the unions when governments were locking down? Where was their pushback then?
They only wanted more of it.
Pay demands follow inflation as surely as night follows day.
Where were the unions when governments were locking down? Where was their pushback then?
They only wanted more of it.
So doctors aren’t middle class, then?
The unions taking action, with the exception of RMT and the postal workers, are overwhelmingly middle class or, like the train drivers, earn middle class wages. Why aren’t unions recruiting care workers and those who work in distribution centres and pulling them out on strike? They are the people who really need a pay rise. Probably because union hierarchies are too busy forcing women to accept men in frocks in workplace lavatories and hospital wards.
It is interesting that the Labour leadership has voiced its opposition to the railway and postal strikes, but has said nothing about those being held by doctors, teachers, university lecturers and civil servants. This is the group that used Covid to force lockdowns and destroy the economy, it is the group that still mourns for the EU, and the group that supports green ideology and UBI over jobs for the working class.
Not much taking back power there. They had it all along!
So doctors aren’t middle class, then?
The unions taking action, with the exception of RMT and the postal workers, are overwhelmingly middle class or, like the train drivers, earn middle class wages. Why aren’t unions recruiting care workers and those who work in distribution centres and pulling them out on strike? They are the people who really need a pay rise. Probably because union hierarchies are too busy forcing women to accept men in frocks in workplace lavatories and hospital wards.
It is interesting that the Labour leadership has voiced its opposition to the railway and postal strikes, but has said nothing about those being held by doctors, teachers, university lecturers and civil servants. This is the group that used Covid to force lockdowns and destroy the economy, it is the group that still mourns for the EU, and the group that supports green ideology and UBI over jobs for the working class.
Not much taking back power there. They had it all along!
“Whatever the merits of the industrial action by various unions, their current campaigns are explicitly based on material interests.”
I have no objection to unions promoting the interests of their members. That’s what they’re for. What I do object to is their disingenuous claims that they’re doing it for our benefit.
“Whatever the merits of the industrial action by various unions, their current campaigns are explicitly based on material interests.”
I have no objection to unions promoting the interests of their members. That’s what they’re for. What I do object to is their disingenuous claims that they’re doing it for our benefit.
Striking working classes – do you know how much train drivers, emergency workers, nurses, civil servants and teachers make? This ain’t poverty stricken working classes – typical salaries of at least £30k plus, well above the national average wage.
These are left wing inspired and organised strikes merely directed at getting rid of the Tories. Ironically their actions will create a backlash against Labour. Idiots.
Striking working classes – do you know how much train drivers, emergency workers, nurses, civil servants and teachers make? This ain’t poverty stricken working classes – typical salaries of at least £30k plus, well above the national average wage.
These are left wing inspired and organised strikes merely directed at getting rid of the Tories. Ironically their actions will create a backlash against Labour. Idiots.
As a degenerate rentier society we worship house-price-gains and record-company-profits yet can’t stand the idea of real workers earning wages that keep up with the real rate of inflation. Perhaps it’s because the rentier class can’t get at this cash?
As a degenerate rentier society we worship house-price-gains and record-company-profits yet can’t stand the idea of real workers earning wages that keep up with the real rate of inflation. Perhaps it’s because the rentier class can’t get at this cash?
Or in other words, greed. I’m uncertain about the cheery nature of this piece, the current wave of strikes are cynical and dispicable at a time of national pressures, particularly the trains.
I don’t agree with the tactics of Just Stop Oil, but their approach has to be completely different from a picket line, comparing the two seems absurd. They also have a valid motive, dismissing it as virtue signalling demonstrates an inadequate understanding of the issues.
I know many people in healthcare, particularly nurses, and the amount of work they put in compared to how little they get paid is almost criminal. It is not just about the money either, it is about the way they are treated as dispensable units by a bloated management layer that pays itself too much.
In contrast, Just Stop Oil have made no friends among the working class who have had to witness pampered rich kids block traffic and glue themselves to valuable cultural artifacts
Certainly you have two examples there that are both highly emotive but at the opposite ends of the spectrum. We all like nurses and want to be proud of their conditions, yet, I don’t agree with their actions and tbh, when including their whole package and benefits, it’s really not that bad, and everyone who works will gripe about how much work they have to do for the pay, so they are no different. I don’t agree with JSO actions either, they are ridiculous and have done more damage to their own cause than they could possibly realise. I do however sympathise with their motive.
Certainly you have two examples there that are both highly emotive but at the opposite ends of the spectrum. We all like nurses and want to be proud of their conditions, yet, I don’t agree with their actions and tbh, when including their whole package and benefits, it’s really not that bad, and everyone who works will gripe about how much work they have to do for the pay, so they are no different. I don’t agree with JSO actions either, they are ridiculous and have done more damage to their own cause than they could possibly realise. I do however sympathise with their motive.
I know many people in healthcare, particularly nurses, and the amount of work they put in compared to how little they get paid is almost criminal. It is not just about the money either, it is about the way they are treated as dispensable units by a bloated management layer that pays itself too much.
In contrast, Just Stop Oil have made no friends among the working class who have had to witness pampered rich kids block traffic and glue themselves to valuable cultural artifacts
Or in other words, greed. I’m uncertain about the cheery nature of this piece, the current wave of strikes are cynical and dispicable at a time of national pressures, particularly the trains.
I don’t agree with the tactics of Just Stop Oil, but their approach has to be completely different from a picket line, comparing the two seems absurd. They also have a valid motive, dismissing it as virtue signalling demonstrates an inadequate understanding of the issues.