at the exact moment the tide turns – when it becomes ethically fashionable to stand against it – they will rewrite their own personal histories to show they were always on side
I actually feel for these actors – they are terrified. It’s not enough just to keep quite and hope it will blow over, there is a version of “white silence is white violence” within the gender identity “community”, and these actors know that unless they condemn the person, in this case Ms Rowling, they will be piled upon. It’s not noble, it’s not courageous, but it is understandable. The question that I am totally unable answer is how such a small minority gained so much fearsome power – who gave it to them? I didn’t, and I shall always speak-up.
The question that I am totally unable answer is how such a small minority gained so much fearsome power – who gave it to them?
My hypothesis is that they didn’t – well nor directly. My explanation is that this has been slow cooking in the educational institutions for years such that it has slowly been turning out humanities graduates that are very predisposed to this line of thought (critical queer theory) and who have subsequently gravitated to administrative positions within very influential institutions such as education, police, media and entertainment, museums and libraries etc etc. or, have occupied quango organisations that provide ideological direction. They may also be predisposed perhaps, if they hold a political position that is amenable to this ideology.
This sort of insanity can only exist when times are fat and easy. In hard times this sort of social insanity will be stomped on by the people as they have not got the luxury to have their hard lives F-ed with by such antisocial idiots.
The market is to bust, the money is being devalued by debt fuled money printing, the deficites in goods imported to exported, the private debt is unsustainable, the Corporate debt, the Equity Leverage, the local, and State debts unsustainable once interests cannot be held down by QE to infinity…..
It is a house of cards, and when it falls these sickoos will end up being crushed under the pile of debris as they are a counter productive luxury only fat times can support….
You may be correct, in the house of cards falling and creating chaos, but is that not what the intersectional leftists want? As institutions and countries become destabilized, each member of the intersectionalist collective hopes to create their version of utopia. It will not be a pretty picture when the Communists the Islamists, the trans activists; the BLM crowd; Antifa; the anti semites; and radical femminists start fighting for supremacy in the big rebuild.
One can only hope and pray that it truly is bye-bye to this vile and divisive organisation. But I suspect that it isn’t.
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Tony Buck
2 years ago
Stonewall were a thoroughly pernicious set of people before Transgenderism and – amazingly enough – they’re an even nastier set of people now.
R Baron
2 years ago
It’s seems that our domestic policy, the major planks of it, is informed and guided mostly by the lobby groups, often small in membership numbers but well funded (by whom?), aggressive and intolerant to even a hint of criticism, the elections now furnish only a semblance of democracy; The foreign policy, or at least the key areas of it, by our special friends over to the West.
Together with the Green mob the Stonewall outfit’s insidious penetration (no pun intended) of many of the institutions of State (with the uncritical connivance of the MSM) has been tolerated by the Government and the lawmakers because they no longer fear the electorate, but the wrath of the lobbyists.
It’s unlikely that any investigation, however long in viewing time and deep in substance, will change it.
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Keith Jefferson
2 years ago
I have just listened to the first few episodes of the Nolan podcast. If I understand this correctly, the whole basis of Stonewall’s equality index scheme is that organisations should allow Stonewall to judge them against criteria specified by Stonewall, and that those same organisations can pay Stonewall to provide advice and training on how they can perform better, and therefore get a better score. And the better the score an organisation receives, the higher up they will be in published tables of “virtuous organisations”, with commercial benefits in terms of PR etc. (and disbenefits if you score badly). This, to me, has the whiff of a legalised protection racket. At least Ronnie and Reggie didn’t lecture you when they demanded monies.
Given that multiple Govt departments seem to have signed up to the Stonewall scheme, is there any pressure on potential contractors for Govt services to also sign up? Even if there is an unconscious pressure, that would be outrageous.
In fact they paid Stonewall to give them incorrect and misleading advice – in the case of Quangos, with our money.
Hugh Oxford
2 years ago
Thank God the truth is finally coming out about this evil organisation and the level of state corruption that surrounds it. Many of us have been trying to raise awareness about this organisation for decades and it is fantastic that we are finally being heard.
Are you referring to STONEWALL or the BBC? Both seem to meet your definition of “evil organization.”
Ian Stewart
2 years ago
Listening to the podcast now – it’s brilliantly presented, and objectively too – their skill on staying on the tightrope as they ask penetrating questions is fantastic.
After reading the article on Unherd, ‘the misogyny of trans activists’, about the vile protesters at the FiLiA conference last weekend, I found another article by Julie Bindel (https://thecritic.co.uk/the-quiet-cancellations/) detailing how the Portsmouth Labour Party has supported these extremists. It makes you realise it’s not just Stonewall, but the Labour Party and the police who are promoting and protecting these activists.
I submitted complaints to the Police and the Police and Crime Commissioner for Hampshire using the material from the Unherd article as a reference.
Well done, Ian, if you have the evidence then taking things further is a good idea.
James Joyce
2 years ago
The headline should be a variation of the subheading: “The BBC was never impartial….”
As an occasional commentator on the BBC (perhaps cancelled), I would encourage those who can to NOT pay the license fee. British citizens should be in open revolt against this institutionalized progadanda: Joseph Goebbels would be proud. BBC is simply the media arm of the woke religion, exactly akin to NPR in the USA. It is completely biased and not worthy of public support.
With respect, I disagree with the commenters who believe that the tide (against wokeness) seems to be turning. It is also important to realize that many of the people cancelled by the mob (often “terfs”) are bad people (in my view), who seek to impose only a slightly milder version of woke ideology on everyone, but seem to have crossed a line with the trans community. Regrettably, the UnHerd crowd must, for a time, join forces with these people temporarily, until the woke are defeated. Then we can do battle against a slightly less crazy enemy, and they are the enemy–no room for respectful disagreements and Enlightenment thought.
I was about to say something very similar.
A charity doesn’t have to be impartial at all, the BBC should.
Andrea X
2 years ago
Thanks. I already have it on my phone ready to go. I noticed it last night on the BBC website and had to do a double take (twice, I think) when I read that it was on the BBC website, but the BBC refused to engage. A case of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing, or cognitive dissonance?
The podcast can be found on youtube – type ‘Nolan investigates stonewall’ into their search engine.
Martin Adams
2 years ago
Everything Gareth Roberts says above is sound in its identification of the ethical and other problems that not only surround the BBC’s engagement with Stonewall, but Stonewall itself, and the many other public bodies that have signed up to its programmes.
I was alerted to the sequence of programmes by a friend, about five days ago. About two days ago (December 9th) I attempted to listen to these programmes on BBC sounds. Every single link on the relevant page was dead, with the site reporting that “This content doesn’t seem to be working.” Fortunately I was able to find the series on YouTube.
Every word of praise for this series that Mr Roberts writes is justified. It’s an outstanding piece of deep-thinking and deep-digging journalism.
I’m no conspiracy theorist; but the fact that this was the only dead series of links in several pages I accessed successfully on BBC Sounds, has made me wonder what is going on.
Martin Adams
2 years ago
Everything Gareth Roberts says above is sound in its identification of the ethical and other problems that not only surround the BBC’s engagement with Stonewall, but Stonewall itself, and the many other public bodies that have signed up to its programmes.
I was alerted to the sequence of programmes by a friend, about five days ago. About two days ago (December 9th) I attempted to listen to these programmes on BBC sounds. Every single link on the relevant page was dead, with the site reporting that “This content doesn’t seem to be working.” Fortunately I was able to find the series on YouTube.
Every word of praise for this series that Mr Roberts writes is justified. It’s an outstanding piece of deep-thinking and deep-digging journalism.
I’m no conspiracy theorist; but the fact that this was the only dead series of links in several pages I accessed successfully on BBC Sounds, has made me wonder what is going on.
Bye bye Stonewall
Yes the tide finally seems to be turning.
When will their fellow travellers notice? People like the actors who railed against JK Rowling.
at the exact moment the tide turns – when it becomes ethically fashionable to stand against it – they will rewrite their own personal histories to show they were always on side
Well said. The fellow travelers are profoundly trendy (by which I mean “shallow”) people , always sniffing the social media wind.
Shallow rivers flow faster.
I actually feel for these actors – they are terrified. It’s not enough just to keep quite and hope it will blow over, there is a version of “white silence is white violence” within the gender identity “community”, and these actors know that unless they condemn the person, in this case Ms Rowling, they will be piled upon. It’s not noble, it’s not courageous, but it is understandable. The question that I am totally unable answer is how such a small minority gained so much fearsome power – who gave it to them? I didn’t, and I shall always speak-up.
Well said! Completely agree!
The question that I am totally unable answer is how such a small minority gained so much fearsome power – who gave it to them?
My hypothesis is that they didn’t – well nor directly. My explanation is that this has been slow cooking in the educational institutions for years such that it has slowly been turning out humanities graduates that are very predisposed to this line of thought (critical queer theory) and who have subsequently gravitated to administrative positions within very influential institutions such as education, police, media and entertainment, museums and libraries etc etc. or, have occupied quango organisations that provide ideological direction. They may also be predisposed perhaps, if they hold a political position that is amenable to this ideology.
I agree. Same with critical race theory.
This sort of insanity can only exist when times are fat and easy. In hard times this sort of social insanity will be stomped on by the people as they have not got the luxury to have their hard lives F-ed with by such antisocial idiots.
The market is to bust, the money is being devalued by debt fuled money printing, the deficites in goods imported to exported, the private debt is unsustainable, the Corporate debt, the Equity Leverage, the local, and State debts unsustainable once interests cannot be held down by QE to infinity…..
It is a house of cards, and when it falls these sickoos will end up being crushed under the pile of debris as they are a counter productive luxury only fat times can support….
You may be correct, in the house of cards falling and creating chaos, but is that not what the intersectional leftists want? As institutions and countries become destabilized, each member of the intersectionalist collective hopes to create their version of utopia. It will not be a pretty picture when the Communists the Islamists, the trans activists; the BLM crowd; Antifa; the anti semites; and radical femminists start fighting for supremacy in the big rebuild.
One can only hope and pray that it truly is bye-bye to this vile and divisive organisation. But I suspect that it isn’t.
Stonewall were a thoroughly pernicious set of people before Transgenderism and – amazingly enough – they’re an even nastier set of people now.
It’s seems that our domestic policy, the major planks of it, is informed and guided mostly by the lobby groups, often small in membership numbers but well funded (by whom?), aggressive and intolerant to even a hint of criticism, the elections now furnish only a semblance of democracy; The foreign policy, or at least the key areas of it, by our special friends over to the West.
Together with the Green mob the Stonewall outfit’s insidious penetration (no pun intended) of many of the institutions of State (with the uncritical connivance of the MSM) has been tolerated by the Government and the lawmakers because they no longer fear the electorate, but the wrath of the lobbyists.
It’s unlikely that any investigation, however long in viewing time and deep in substance, will change it.
I have just listened to the first few episodes of the Nolan podcast. If I understand this correctly, the whole basis of Stonewall’s equality index scheme is that organisations should allow Stonewall to judge them against criteria specified by Stonewall, and that those same organisations can pay Stonewall to provide advice and training on how they can perform better, and therefore get a better score. And the better the score an organisation receives, the higher up they will be in published tables of “virtuous organisations”, with commercial benefits in terms of PR etc. (and disbenefits if you score badly). This, to me, has the whiff of a legalised protection racket. At least Ronnie and Reggie didn’t lecture you when they demanded monies.
Given that multiple Govt departments seem to have signed up to the Stonewall scheme, is there any pressure on potential contractors for Govt services to also sign up? Even if there is an unconscious pressure, that would be outrageous.
In fact they paid Stonewall to give them incorrect and misleading advice – in the case of Quangos, with our money.
Thank God the truth is finally coming out about this evil organisation and the level of state corruption that surrounds it. Many of us have been trying to raise awareness about this organisation for decades and it is fantastic that we are finally being heard.
Are you referring to STONEWALL or the BBC? Both seem to meet your definition of “evil organization.”
Listening to the podcast now – it’s brilliantly presented, and objectively too – their skill on staying on the tightrope as they ask penetrating questions is fantastic.
After reading the article on Unherd, ‘the misogyny of trans activists’, about the vile protesters at the FiLiA conference last weekend, I found another article by Julie Bindel (https://thecritic.co.uk/the-quiet-cancellations/) detailing how the Portsmouth Labour Party has supported these extremists. It makes you realise it’s not just Stonewall, but the Labour Party and the police who are promoting and protecting these activists.
I submitted complaints to the Police and the Police and Crime Commissioner for Hampshire using the material from the Unherd article as a reference.
Well done, Ian, if you have the evidence then taking things further is a good idea.
The headline should be a variation of the subheading:
“The BBC was never impartial….”
As an occasional commentator on the BBC (perhaps cancelled), I would encourage those who can to NOT pay the license fee. British citizens should be in open revolt against this institutionalized progadanda: Joseph Goebbels would be proud. BBC is simply the media arm of the woke religion, exactly akin to NPR in the USA. It is completely biased and not worthy of public support.
With respect, I disagree with the commenters who believe that the tide (against wokeness) seems to be turning. It is also important to realize that many of the people cancelled by the mob (often “terfs”) are bad people (in my view), who seek to impose only a slightly milder version of woke ideology on everyone, but seem to have crossed a line with the trans community. Regrettably, the UnHerd crowd must, for a time, join forces with these people temporarily, until the woke are defeated. Then we can do battle against a slightly less crazy enemy, and they are the enemy–no room for respectful disagreements and Enlightenment thought.
I was about to say something very similar.
A charity doesn’t have to be impartial at all, the BBC should.
Thanks. I already have it on my phone ready to go. I noticed it last night on the BBC website and had to do a double take (twice, I think) when I read that it was on the BBC website, but the BBC refused to engage. A case of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing, or cognitive dissonance?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09yjmph
Tks
The podcast can be found on youtube – type ‘Nolan investigates stonewall’ into their search engine.
Everything Gareth Roberts says above is sound in its identification of the ethical and other problems that not only surround the BBC’s engagement with Stonewall, but Stonewall itself, and the many other public bodies that have signed up to its programmes.
I was alerted to the sequence of programmes by a friend, about five days ago. About two days ago (December 9th) I attempted to listen to these programmes on BBC sounds. Every single link on the relevant page was dead, with the site reporting that “This content doesn’t seem to be working.” Fortunately I was able to find the series on YouTube.
Every word of praise for this series that Mr Roberts writes is justified. It’s an outstanding piece of deep-thinking and deep-digging journalism.
I’m no conspiracy theorist; but the fact that this was the only dead series of links in several pages I accessed successfully on BBC Sounds, has made me wonder what is going on.
Everything Gareth Roberts says above is sound in its identification of the ethical and other problems that not only surround the BBC’s engagement with Stonewall, but Stonewall itself, and the many other public bodies that have signed up to its programmes.
I was alerted to the sequence of programmes by a friend, about five days ago. About two days ago (December 9th) I attempted to listen to these programmes on BBC sounds. Every single link on the relevant page was dead, with the site reporting that “This content doesn’t seem to be working.” Fortunately I was able to find the series on YouTube.
Every word of praise for this series that Mr Roberts writes is justified. It’s an outstanding piece of deep-thinking and deep-digging journalism.
I’m no conspiracy theorist; but the fact that this was the only dead series of links in several pages I accessed successfully on BBC Sounds, has made me wonder what is going on.
How/where may I find the documentary?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09yjmph