“The other 82 percent of fossil fuel subsidies were implicit. These included tax breaks for oil firms, but also the unpaid cost of climate change and air pollution as a result of burning fossil fuels. ”
These are not subsidies, as normal people would understand them, and it’s disappointing to see UnHerd repeat this nonsense uncritically.
And this is before fuel duty, which (along with VAT) accounts for about half of the price at the pump.
By contrast, huge actual subsidies flow to providers of “renewable” energy.
Well yes, so the ideal thing would be to stop burning fossil fuels. The only way to achieve that is nuclear power, but for some reason governments seem to prefer renewables, which cannot replace hydrocarbon energy on timescales shorter than multiples decades.
It is also worth pointing out, by the way, that one of the principle effects of the West’s thirty year attempt to suppress demand for fossil fuels in the developing world in favour of renewables has been to prolong the practice in the poorest regions of using wood and dung for indoor heating and cooking. This kills over 3million people a year from smoke inhalation-related diseases, but it’s fine apparently because the energy source in question is regarded as renewable. This has been one of the more “successful” attempts by the global climate lobby to suppress fossil fuel use, and it almost certainly is killing far more people than would be killed by the equivalent amount of energy if derived from diesel and natural gas.
Just another dishonest argument from the climate change industrial complex.
Steve White
7 months ago
Hungary, having good and wise pro-Hungarian-people-governance, and who doesn’t take the EU bribe money, or give in to their threats, is the only EU nation exempt from that ban.
Hungary has been a major recipient of EU funds. Orban has been very clever in portraying himself as an anti EU statesman while simultaneously standing there with his hand out begging for more money from other European nations.
This isn’t a criticism by the way, he’s simply playing the game but I don’t get this heroic image some have portrayed him to be
“I don’t get this heroic image”. Orban and his guys have been denounced by the USA and the EU and increased Hungary’s marriage and birth rates. The latter is impressive but in the face of US hostility it’s positively heroic.
D Walsh
7 months ago
The EU are trying to cut Russian oil income so I sure they support this Diesel export ban, right thinking people will also like the reduction in evil Diesel entering Europe
At this rate Vlad will only see his popularity rise
There’s a story in the Guardian today that insurers have suddenly massively hiked the insurance on electric cars. The DT says John Lewis will no longer insure electric cars.
Interesting times.
Tyler Durden
7 months ago
Only Washington, London and Warsaw want this war, and the Polish are rapidly polling against it much like the Germans.
The hope is that the BRICS will organise some kind of compromise that might turn the heads of Kiev and put some pressure on the North Atlantic. I can only imagine that will be a guarantee that Luhansk and Donesk will be made autonomous publics with some power-sharing arrangement that will exclude Azov and the ultranationalists.
Zelensky would have to go for that to happen as, sadly, the neocons will still labour under the delusion that Crimea can be retaken. That was Obama’s call and to his credit he opted for peace. Less so his old VP.
R E P
7 months ago
Religious thinking on fossil fuels is hard to extirpate.
From the linked article:
“The other 82 percent of fossil fuel subsidies were implicit. These included tax breaks for oil firms, but also the unpaid cost of climate change and air pollution as a result of burning fossil fuels. ”
These are not subsidies, as normal people would understand them, and it’s disappointing to see UnHerd repeat this nonsense uncritically.
And this is before fuel duty, which (along with VAT) accounts for about half of the price at the pump.
By contrast, huge actual subsidies flow to providers of “renewable” energy.
Well, yes – but air pollution is ‘actual’ too, actually, and has a depressing habit of, er, killing people. It’s complicated, isn’t it?
If you add up the negative externalities, you should add up the positive ones as well.
Well yes, so the ideal thing would be to stop burning fossil fuels. The only way to achieve that is nuclear power, but for some reason governments seem to prefer renewables, which cannot replace hydrocarbon energy on timescales shorter than multiples decades.
It is also worth pointing out, by the way, that one of the principle effects of the West’s thirty year attempt to suppress demand for fossil fuels in the developing world in favour of renewables has been to prolong the practice in the poorest regions of using wood and dung for indoor heating and cooking. This kills over 3million people a year from smoke inhalation-related diseases, but it’s fine apparently because the energy source in question is regarded as renewable. This has been one of the more “successful” attempts by the global climate lobby to suppress fossil fuel use, and it almost certainly is killing far more people than would be killed by the equivalent amount of energy if derived from diesel and natural gas.
So there’s that.
Just another dishonest argument from the climate change industrial complex.
Hungary, having good and wise pro-Hungarian-people-governance, and who doesn’t take the EU bribe money, or give in to their threats, is the only EU nation exempt from that ban.
Hungary has been a major recipient of EU funds. Orban has been very clever in portraying himself as an anti EU statesman while simultaneously standing there with his hand out begging for more money from other European nations.
This isn’t a criticism by the way, he’s simply playing the game but I don’t get this heroic image some have portrayed him to be
“I don’t get this heroic image”. Orban and his guys have been denounced by the USA and the EU and increased Hungary’s marriage and birth rates. The latter is impressive but in the face of US hostility it’s positively heroic.
The EU are trying to cut Russian oil income so I sure they support this Diesel export ban, right thinking people will also like the reduction in evil Diesel entering Europe
At this rate Vlad will only see his popularity rise
There’s a story in the Guardian today that insurers have suddenly massively hiked the insurance on electric cars. The DT says John Lewis will no longer insure electric cars.
Interesting times.
Only Washington, London and Warsaw want this war, and the Polish are rapidly polling against it much like the Germans.
The hope is that the BRICS will organise some kind of compromise that might turn the heads of Kiev and put some pressure on the North Atlantic. I can only imagine that will be a guarantee that Luhansk and Donesk will be made autonomous publics with some power-sharing arrangement that will exclude Azov and the ultranationalists.
Zelensky would have to go for that to happen as, sadly, the neocons will still labour under the delusion that Crimea can be retaken. That was Obama’s call and to his credit he opted for peace. Less so his old VP.
Religious thinking on fossil fuels is hard to extirpate.