There’s no more accurate description of populism than: ‘democracy when the speaker doesn’t like / want the result’
Just saying.
Jim Jam
1 year ago
There’s no more accurate description of populism than: ‘democracy when the speaker doesn’t like / want the result’
Just saying.
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Thanks for this. It’s all new to me. For some reason, I’m still shocked at the lengths the entrenched establishment will go to crush their opponents. Unless the author isn’t telling us the whole story, the case against Babiš is even flimsier than the garbage thrown at Trump.
In other related news, classified documents have been found in Biden’s office. Can’t wait to find out how this is nothing like the classified documents found at Trump’s home. The mental gymnastics should be entertaining.
I would have expected classified documents to be found in Biden’s office. Just like I would have expected to find them in Trump’s when he was still POTUS. Or am I misunderstanding you?
In effect, you are correct (not Biden’s presidential office). I think they were discovered in the current offices of Biden’s current Think Tank (“Penn Biden bla bla bla”).
Not sure if he ever actually shows up. In any event, his lawyers discovered the docs in November and contacted the National archives to turn them over.
In effect, you are correct (not Biden’s presidential office). I think they were discovered in the current offices of Biden’s current Think Tank (“Penn Biden bla bla bla”).
Not sure if he ever actually shows up. In any event, his lawyers discovered the docs in November and contacted the National archives to turn them over.
I would have expected classified documents to be found in Biden’s office. Just like I would have expected to find them in Trump’s when he was still POTUS. Or am I misunderstanding you?
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago
Thanks for this. It’s all new to me. For some reason, I’m still shocked at the lengths the entrenched establishment will go to crush their opponents. Unless the author isn’t telling us the whole story, the case against Babiš is even flimsier than the garbage thrown at Trump.
In other related news, classified documents have been found in Biden’s office. Can’t wait to find out how this is nothing like the classified documents found at Trump’s home. The mental gymnastics should be entertaining.
Madeleine Jones
1 year ago
The viciousness showed towards populists is astounding. We live in a ‘liberal’ society and are trained, at a young age, to sympathise and help out the maligned and persecuted, so they will rise against the current hardship. In the eyes of a contemporary Westerner, however, the question is: Who is being maligned? Is it minorities? Or is it the populist politicans and their supporters?
I think the answer would surprise many liberals in charge.
Madeleine Jones
1 year ago
The viciousness showed towards populists is astounding. We live in a ‘liberal’ society and are trained, at a young age, to sympathise and help out the maligned and persecuted, so they will rise against the current hardship. In the eyes of a contemporary Westerner, however, the question is: Who is being maligned? Is it minorities? Or is it the populist politicans and their supporters?
I think the answer would surprise many liberals in charge.
Anna Bramwell
1 year ago
And then fraud has bern uncovered among Italian and Belgian socialists, one of whom ran an NGO spearheading a witch hunt against Orban in Hungary.
Anna Bramwell
1 year ago
And then fraud has bern uncovered among Italian and Belgian socialists, one of whom ran an NGO spearheading a witch hunt against Orban in Hungary.
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
It’s just like Brexit, where the establishment tried to use the law to stop democracy; and like Trump (who I don’t support) where the Democrats pursued him for years about a conspiracy with Russia for which there was no evidence.
Across the west, the left seems to be losing faith in democracy, because people aren’t voting for its policies, so they then smear the politicians representing these voters as ‘populists’. No, this is democracy in action.
Last edited 1 year ago by Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
It’s just like Brexit, where the establishment tried to use the law to stop democracy; and like Trump (who I don’t support) where the Democrats pursued him for years about a conspiracy with Russia for which there was no evidence.
Across the west, the left seems to be losing faith in democracy, because people aren’t voting for its policies, so they then smear the politicians representing these voters as ‘populists’. No, this is democracy in action.
Last edited 1 year ago by Ian Stewart
Russell Sharpe
1 year ago
Governance is always undertaken by elites: that is the nature of the thing. It is not a problem until and unless the interests and values of those elites become so estranged from those of the populace that the elites find themselves under attack – and their hold on power threatened – by a set of alternative elites thrown up by the democratic process.
The correct response is accommodation, compromise and perhaps even reconsideration of one’s basic principles. To conjure instead the phantom of ‘alt-right’ (or even ‘quasi-fascist’) populism, and to seek to emasculate the new counter-elites by taking them to court on trumped-up charges is not going to work. It is more likely to make large swathes of society begin to suspect that there may be something to be said even for the bogeymen of ‘alt-right’ and ‘fascism’, antagonism to which the current elites flatter themselves secures their own legitimacy and hold on power. That would be a shame, but stranger things have happened.
Russell Sharpe
1 year ago
Governance is always undertaken by elites: that is the nature of the thing. It is not a problem until and unless the interests and values of those elites become so estranged from those of the populace that the elites find themselves under attack – and their hold on power threatened – by a set of alternative elites thrown up by the democratic process.
The correct response is accommodation, compromise and perhaps even reconsideration of one’s basic principles. To conjure instead the phantom of ‘alt-right’ (or even ‘quasi-fascist’) populism, and to seek to emasculate the new counter-elites by taking them to court on trumped-up charges is not going to work. It is more likely to make large swathes of society begin to suspect that there may be something to be said even for the bogeymen of ‘alt-right’ and ‘fascism’, antagonism to which the current elites flatter themselves secures their own legitimacy and hold on power. That would be a shame, but stranger things have happened.
Norman Powers
1 year ago
Is it dangerous? For who? Sounds like the people persecuting Babiš won’t face any repercussions, whilst having successfully slandered him for years and presumably drained a lot of his time and resources. It could have been very dangerous for Babiš though as even if he was innocent, a miscarriage of justice could have always occurred. No wonder the same tactic is being used around the world!
Norman Powers
1 year ago
Is it dangerous? For who? Sounds like the people persecuting Babiš won’t face any repercussions, whilst having successfully slandered him for years and presumably drained a lot of his time and resources. It could have been very dangerous for Babiš though as even if he was innocent, a miscarriage of justice could have always occurred. No wonder the same tactic is being used around the world!
There’s no more accurate description of populism than: ‘democracy when the speaker doesn’t like / want the result’
Just saying.
There’s no more accurate description of populism than: ‘democracy when the speaker doesn’t like / want the result’
Just saying.
Thanks for this. It’s all new to me. For some reason, I’m still shocked at the lengths the entrenched establishment will go to crush their opponents. Unless the author isn’t telling us the whole story, the case against Babiš is even flimsier than the garbage thrown at Trump.
In other related news, classified documents have been found in Biden’s office. Can’t wait to find out how this is nothing like the classified documents found at Trump’s home. The mental gymnastics should be entertaining.
I would have expected classified documents to be found in Biden’s office. Just like I would have expected to find them in Trump’s when he was still POTUS. Or am I misunderstanding you?
Sorry, at his old office before becoming president; one he no longer uses.
In effect, you are correct (not Biden’s presidential office). I think they were discovered in the current offices of Biden’s current Think Tank (“Penn Biden bla bla bla”).
Not sure if he ever actually shows up. In any event, his lawyers discovered the docs in November and contacted the National archives to turn them over.
In effect, you are correct (not Biden’s presidential office). I think they were discovered in the current offices of Biden’s current Think Tank (“Penn Biden bla bla bla”).
Not sure if he ever actually shows up. In any event, his lawyers discovered the docs in November and contacted the National archives to turn them over.
Sorry, at his old office before becoming president; one he no longer uses.
I would have expected classified documents to be found in Biden’s office. Just like I would have expected to find them in Trump’s when he was still POTUS. Or am I misunderstanding you?
Thanks for this. It’s all new to me. For some reason, I’m still shocked at the lengths the entrenched establishment will go to crush their opponents. Unless the author isn’t telling us the whole story, the case against Babiš is even flimsier than the garbage thrown at Trump.
In other related news, classified documents have been found in Biden’s office. Can’t wait to find out how this is nothing like the classified documents found at Trump’s home. The mental gymnastics should be entertaining.
The viciousness showed towards populists is astounding. We live in a ‘liberal’ society and are trained, at a young age, to sympathise and help out the maligned and persecuted, so they will rise against the current hardship. In the eyes of a contemporary Westerner, however, the question is: Who is being maligned? Is it minorities? Or is it the populist politicans and their supporters?
I think the answer would surprise many liberals in charge.
The viciousness showed towards populists is astounding. We live in a ‘liberal’ society and are trained, at a young age, to sympathise and help out the maligned and persecuted, so they will rise against the current hardship. In the eyes of a contemporary Westerner, however, the question is: Who is being maligned? Is it minorities? Or is it the populist politicans and their supporters?
I think the answer would surprise many liberals in charge.
And then fraud has bern uncovered among Italian and Belgian socialists, one of whom ran an NGO spearheading a witch hunt against Orban in Hungary.
And then fraud has bern uncovered among Italian and Belgian socialists, one of whom ran an NGO spearheading a witch hunt against Orban in Hungary.
It’s just like Brexit, where the establishment tried to use the law to stop democracy; and like Trump (who I don’t support) where the Democrats pursued him for years about a conspiracy with Russia for which there was no evidence.
Across the west, the left seems to be losing faith in democracy, because people aren’t voting for its policies, so they then smear the politicians representing these voters as ‘populists’. No, this is democracy in action.
It’s just like Brexit, where the establishment tried to use the law to stop democracy; and like Trump (who I don’t support) where the Democrats pursued him for years about a conspiracy with Russia for which there was no evidence.
Across the west, the left seems to be losing faith in democracy, because people aren’t voting for its policies, so they then smear the politicians representing these voters as ‘populists’. No, this is democracy in action.
Governance is always undertaken by elites: that is the nature of the thing. It is not a problem until and unless the interests and values of those elites become so estranged from those of the populace that the elites find themselves under attack – and their hold on power threatened – by a set of alternative elites thrown up by the democratic process.
The correct response is accommodation, compromise and perhaps even reconsideration of one’s basic principles. To conjure instead the phantom of ‘alt-right’ (or even ‘quasi-fascist’) populism, and to seek to emasculate the new counter-elites by taking them to court on trumped-up charges is not going to work. It is more likely to make large swathes of society begin to suspect that there may be something to be said even for the bogeymen of ‘alt-right’ and ‘fascism’, antagonism to which the current elites flatter themselves secures their own legitimacy and hold on power. That would be a shame, but stranger things have happened.
Governance is always undertaken by elites: that is the nature of the thing. It is not a problem until and unless the interests and values of those elites become so estranged from those of the populace that the elites find themselves under attack – and their hold on power threatened – by a set of alternative elites thrown up by the democratic process.
The correct response is accommodation, compromise and perhaps even reconsideration of one’s basic principles. To conjure instead the phantom of ‘alt-right’ (or even ‘quasi-fascist’) populism, and to seek to emasculate the new counter-elites by taking them to court on trumped-up charges is not going to work. It is more likely to make large swathes of society begin to suspect that there may be something to be said even for the bogeymen of ‘alt-right’ and ‘fascism’, antagonism to which the current elites flatter themselves secures their own legitimacy and hold on power. That would be a shame, but stranger things have happened.
Is it dangerous? For who? Sounds like the people persecuting Babiš won’t face any repercussions, whilst having successfully slandered him for years and presumably drained a lot of his time and resources. It could have been very dangerous for Babiš though as even if he was innocent, a miscarriage of justice could have always occurred. No wonder the same tactic is being used around the world!
Is it dangerous? For who? Sounds like the people persecuting Babiš won’t face any repercussions, whilst having successfully slandered him for years and presumably drained a lot of his time and resources. It could have been very dangerous for Babiš though as even if he was innocent, a miscarriage of justice could have always occurred. No wonder the same tactic is being used around the world!