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Poll: Democrats are turning more liberal
What's behind the rise in Democrats' social liberalism? Credit: Getty
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What's behind the rise in Democrats' social liberalism? Credit: Getty
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SubscribeLiberal is being used too broadly. Most Conservatives are Classical Liberals. Most Progressives are closer to being Socialist than Liberal. Communists, Postmodernists and Critical Theorist are types of Socialists that actively seek to disrupt, dismantle and reconstruct the Western Liberal order to prevent the cultural status quo from reproducing itself.
Progressives are a modern mixture of communists and fascists
True enough. I’m fond of reading Red State, which one might guess from the name is “far right”. I’d peg all the regular writers as classical liberal.
As to progressives I’m really not sure they have a basis as consistent as “socialism”. I don’t buy “cultural Marxism” as a moniker. Progressivism is both totalitarian and individualistic at the same time, like a giant Freudian id. Socialism is simply collectivist. Progressives seem pretty happy with personal wealth, and with hierarchy (as long as it’s not clearly articulated as such), and with corporations, as long as they’re accessorized with all the proper virtue messaging. Progressivism seems to be more like an outgrowth of consumerism, but a consumption of messaging and imagery rather than objects.
I don’t think Capitalism and Socialism are opposites. In Marxist Theory, Socialism is the transitional state before Communism. A pure Communist system could never exist outside of maybe a hundred people.
Even Lenin embraced markets for a time. Socialism is open to markets so long as there is a symbiotic relationship to the State. Champagne Socialists prefer to play markets and relegate the peasants to Socialism.
Progressivism doesn’t really need to be Left. Some Libertarians are technically “Progressive” but most Progressives are on the Left and have embraced “Democratic Centralism.” The State is their vehicle to initiate change at the Corporate level. They can’t administer change without the right legislative conditions.
I’m not sure the Democrats are turning more liberal in the traditional sense. In a weird turnaround the word ‘liberal’ is coming to mean shouting down and going after people who think differently to you. They are becoming stupider and weirder.
Again we’re left scratching our heads -what the hell do they mean by liberal, or far right for that matter?
Precisely what I was thinking too. It’s a very vague word, “liberal”, with both a perjorative and a philosophical meaning. Maybe they just mean there’s been a further shift among Democrats to the social values of the professional-managerial class.
Define liberal?
There is “liberal” and then there is “progressive left”.
Trump used to be a Democrat. The Democrat party has moved Left. He’s still the same guy. JFK was for lower taxes. Protectionism used to be a Democrat staple. So did war-aversion. Before Trump, were empowerment-zones for Blacks ever a Republican concept? The RINO’s, your true war-loving Republicans of yore all hate Trump. Bernie Sanders went to the USSR for his honeymoon and Trump is the Russian stooge? Let me make this clear, Trump is still the Democrat he always was. He’s just taken over the Republicans, like Bernie Sanders did with the Democrats.
Young people at the gym tell me that the incel thing is the result of the infamous liberal group-think amongst young women, while the other set of 20somethings only date guys my age because we pay for restaurant meals, cars and holidays if not top up their rent: DiCaprio syndrome.
Le Pen map looks like a copy of the Biden Trump map of our last election. A sea or right-wing votes with a bunch of Blue city dots. All Democratic votes in large cities with the rest of the country red.