Yes, we know. This has been going on since Blair and Clinton decided they could dispense with their working class base and depend on a new coalition of middle class angst and group identities. What is different is how the Right responds. In the States it has the measure of what it is up against; the Tories in the UK have – had – a brief opportunity to creat a counterweight coalition of the working class and the still socially conservative middle class. For whatever reason they are busy throwing this away.
Christopher Chantrill
1 year ago
Look. All politics is about “hey kids Want some free stuff?”
There’s not much that the educated ruling class is interested in tossing to the working class. Not these days.
But nice educated career women that believe in climate change and N95 masks and lockdokwns and helpless oppressed peoples? “Wow, do we have a deal for you!”
polidori redux
1 year ago
“… the Democrats have been “hijacked” by liberal activists — a problem that the Labour party faces too.” The Tory Party is no better.
The Tories’ issue is that they DON’T listen to their membership.
Derek Hilling
1 year ago
Politics is fundamentally a middle-class activity and so it is not surprising that many of the political parties in the Anglo-sphere are succumbing to liberal / ‘bleeding-heart’ activists who are ashamed of their wealth / identity / and their countries’ history.
I can only think that there is something very wrong with their privileged / university education. Lots of facts, particularly selected ones from the last 200 years of history, do not necessarily create a well-rounded, educated person. For that, one needs a sense of perspective which is precisely what history gives us. History, of course, has been one of the subjects that most suffered under successive governments ‘modernisation’.
Those who don’t understand their nation’s history are more easily pray to all those charlatans out there, telling their ‘bleeding-heart’ tales, to those with the mentality to be listen. Charlatans like BLM (who are apparently feathering their nests very well) and many charities, paying absurdly high salaries to glorified Chief Execs!
The Victorians were a similar privileged elite, riding the wave of the first great industrial expansion, but they did manage to make a long-lasting contribution. I would hope that we can find leaders who have a better perspective, who don’t fritter away our resources supporting ingrates who will only use it to aggrandise themselves.
Philip Stott
1 year ago
And ironically, this issue with the Labour party, here in the UK, abandoning the working class has given carte blanche for our notionally, conservative government to abandon their usual base.
At least you lucky U.S. voters get to choose between parties with different policies!
diana Mackin
1 year ago
People in the US do not understand class in the US. Student loan forgiveness would definitely benefit and is popular with the working class. Despite our misgivings, we did send our children off to colleges and universities so that they might have better opportunities — often with student loans, as our incomes didn’t allow for full pay!
There are levels of class beyond “upper” and “working” class, in both directions. Elites, the top 1% or fewer; upper class; middle class (with its own upper, mid and lower-middle); working class (shower after work by necessity); working poor (two minimum wage possibly part-time jobs + shower after work), and poverty class (the group pulled in and employed temporarily, to keep those just above in line).
Yes, we know. This has been going on since Blair and Clinton decided they could dispense with their working class base and depend on a new coalition of middle class angst and group identities. What is different is how the Right responds. In the States it has the measure of what it is up against; the Tories in the UK have – had – a brief opportunity to creat a counterweight coalition of the working class and the still socially conservative middle class. For whatever reason they are busy throwing this away.
Look. All politics is about “hey kids Want some free stuff?”
There’s not much that the educated ruling class is interested in tossing to the working class. Not these days.
But nice educated career women that believe in climate change and N95 masks and lockdokwns and helpless oppressed peoples? “Wow, do we have a deal for you!”
“… the Democrats have been “hijacked” by liberal activists — a problem that the Labour party faces too.”
The Tory Party is no better.
The Tories’ issue is that they DON’T listen to their membership.
Politics is fundamentally a middle-class activity and so it is not surprising that many of the political parties in the Anglo-sphere are succumbing to liberal / ‘bleeding-heart’ activists who are ashamed of their wealth / identity / and their countries’ history.
I can only think that there is something very wrong with their privileged / university education. Lots of facts, particularly selected ones from the last 200 years of history, do not necessarily create a well-rounded, educated person. For that, one needs a sense of perspective which is precisely what history gives us. History, of course, has been one of the subjects that most suffered under successive governments ‘modernisation’.
Those who don’t understand their nation’s history are more easily pray to all those charlatans out there, telling their ‘bleeding-heart’ tales, to those with the mentality to be listen. Charlatans like BLM (who are apparently feathering their nests very well) and many charities, paying absurdly high salaries to glorified Chief Execs!
The Victorians were a similar privileged elite, riding the wave of the first great industrial expansion, but they did manage to make a long-lasting contribution. I would hope that we can find leaders who have a better perspective, who don’t fritter away our resources supporting ingrates who will only use it to aggrandise themselves.
And ironically, this issue with the Labour party, here in the UK, abandoning the working class has given carte blanche for our notionally, conservative government to abandon their usual base.
At least you lucky U.S. voters get to choose between parties with different policies!
People in the US do not understand class in the US. Student loan forgiveness would definitely benefit and is popular with the working class. Despite our misgivings, we did send our children off to colleges and universities so that they might have better opportunities — often with student loans, as our incomes didn’t allow for full pay!
There are levels of class beyond “upper” and “working” class, in both directions. Elites, the top 1% or fewer; upper class; middle class (with its own upper, mid and lower-middle); working class (shower after work by necessity); working poor (two minimum wage possibly part-time jobs + shower after work), and poverty class (the group pulled in and employed temporarily, to keep those just above in line).