The part I don’t understand is why would anyone pay for something that is available everywhere online for free. But then again, people never cease to surprise me…
Geoffrey Simon Hicking
3 years ago
What is the alternative for prostitutes that are determined or need to carry on in that profession?
Richard E
3 years ago
I don’t think Only Fans is just a sex site.
It is a way of people getting payment for their content, so can extend to various celebrities, producers of music and art and other people who can create content that is of interest.
At the moment these people find it very difficult to make an income from You Tube, Social Media or Streaming – unless they are extremely popular.
Not sure why you got downvoted. It certainly has a predominant sexual element, but it can be used for other things too, as you suggest.
What is of interest is the mainstream media’s push to popularize OnlyFans. It must be very confusing to young woman who are told that sex is both an instrument of oppression and empowerment.
It isn’t a sex site. The author thinks it is. Lots of girls think it gives them easy money but that is their problem. I hadn’t heard of the site until I read this article. I’ve now joined so that I can investigate. There’s rap ‘singers’ trying to get noticed and cookery. -sandwich making – I suppose not everyone knows how they’re made!
Sam Cel Roman
3 years ago
The only way that this is “grooming” is if the participants are not wholly adults, which is a really paternalistic way of thinking about women.
Sounds to me like “grooming” just means “this year’s teen fad” and is no different than miniskirts, rock and roll, or cordless phones, all things the “get off my lawn” adults worried would corrupt the kidz at different times in recent history.
Your are right about the author’s misuse of words, but leave Mary out of this Ralph. She wouldn’t have called these girls groomed, she would have called them tarts (at the very least). Mrs Whitehouse was not into the business of denying people’s responsibility for their actions, on the contrary, she insisted that people take responsibility and act responsibly.
Aaron Kevali
3 years ago
“Each success story is, in its own way, a type of grooming. I spoke to an 18-year-old girl… I asked her if she had felt groomed, she said absolutely, but by women rather than men…”
As with “rape” the word “grooming” is now expanding wildly in its meaning. Look ladies (and I assume a few men also), if you post videos/pictures of yourself naked online, you are an idiot. Nobody made you do it, if you post things yourself online for what amounts to basically tips, you are whoring yourself out. Simple as that. You are not a victim, you are a prostitute. Young women are masters of this kind of so-called reasoning: “If I do something that I later regret, I must have been manipulated into doing it!”
Or… these ladies made a terrible decision and must own the consequences. Their grandmas or even their future children may just run into pictures/videos of them behaving indecently. And they only got a few bucks for it.
M Spahn
3 years ago
I’m almost surprised the author stopped at “grooming” and didn’t call it “rape.” By next year we’ll be willing to go that far I’m sure.
The part I don’t understand is why would anyone pay for something that is available everywhere online for free. But then again, people never cease to surprise me…
What is the alternative for prostitutes that are determined or need to carry on in that profession?
I don’t think Only Fans is just a sex site.
It is a way of people getting payment for their content, so can extend to various celebrities, producers of music and art and other people who can create content that is of interest.
At the moment these people find it very difficult to make an income from You Tube, Social Media or Streaming – unless they are extremely popular.
Not sure why you got downvoted. It certainly has a predominant sexual element, but it can be used for other things too, as you suggest.
What is of interest is the mainstream media’s push to popularize OnlyFans. It must be very confusing to young woman who are told that sex is both an instrument of oppression and empowerment.
“Not sure why you got downvoted.”
That makes two of us. It seemed like a reasonable comment to me.
It isn’t a sex site. The author thinks it is. Lots of girls think it gives them easy money but that is their problem. I hadn’t heard of the site until I read this article. I’ve now joined so that I can investigate. There’s rap ‘singers’ trying to get noticed and cookery. -sandwich making – I suppose not everyone knows how they’re made!
The only way that this is “grooming” is if the participants are not wholly adults, which is a really paternalistic way of thinking about women.
Sounds to me like “grooming” just means “this year’s teen fad” and is no different than miniskirts, rock and roll, or cordless phones, all things the “get off my lawn” adults worried would corrupt the kidz at different times in recent history.
Yes, feminism has some peculiar infantilizing strains these days. They may even be dominant at this point.
Sounds like the author is the modern equivelent of Mary Whitehouse. Please stop using ‘grooming’ for anything you dont like.
Your are right about the author’s misuse of words, but leave Mary out of this Ralph. She wouldn’t have called these girls groomed, she would have called them tarts (at the very least). Mrs Whitehouse was not into the business of denying people’s responsibility for their actions, on the contrary, she insisted that people take responsibility and act responsibly.
“Each success story is, in its own way, a type of grooming. I spoke to an 18-year-old girl… I asked her if she had felt groomed, she said absolutely, but by women rather than men…”
As with “rape” the word “grooming” is now expanding wildly in its meaning. Look ladies (and I assume a few men also), if you post videos/pictures of yourself naked online, you are an idiot. Nobody made you do it, if you post things yourself online for what amounts to basically tips, you are whoring yourself out. Simple as that. You are not a victim, you are a prostitute. Young women are masters of this kind of so-called reasoning: “If I do something that I later regret, I must have been manipulated into doing it!”
Or… these ladies made a terrible decision and must own the consequences. Their grandmas or even their future children may just run into pictures/videos of them behaving indecently. And they only got a few bucks for it.
I’m almost surprised the author stopped at “grooming” and didn’t call it “rape.” By next year we’ll be willing to go that far I’m sure.