I would much rather have the House of Lords stuffed with people who know how wealth is created than with those whose only experience has been how to destroy wealth.
The power of the Lords is after all today somewhat limited. That said the attendance allowance should be done away with to reflect Noblesse Oblige. The honour should be sufficient.
If we are too squeamish to sell membership of the House of Lords then a return to the sale of the rank of Baronet should be instituted. Worth much more than a mere knighthood.
Last edited 2 years ago by Jeremy Bray
Andrew Sainsbury
2 years ago
The lords actually get to influence parliamentary process over and above the electorate. The idea this might have legitimacy based on who nominated them or the size of their ‘contribution’ is another attack on democracy.
Bogman Star
2 years ago
Your argument is that corruption is inevitable, so we should just embrace it?
Giles Chance
2 years ago
Good idea. And set the price by auction.
Galeti Tavas
2 years ago
I did not really read the article as I know it will be another cynical, modern anti British thing from some young mindset…
But the HoL never should have stopped just being the hereditary Lords and the Bishops – once the commoners got in it was over. It is like letting the children get equal votes with the parents, it is a disaster. At least the Aristocracy have a vested interest, a lineage, and some Nobility. Naturally it is stacked with the British equivalent of ‘The Squad’ with the Labour PMs getting to elevate degenerates and crazies to ‘Rub the Right’s nose in it’, as Blair so eloquently put it.
Colin Elliott
2 years ago
Before people become excited about this alleged selling of peerages, we should bear in mind the political make up of the Lords, after 6 years of Conservative government (some say 11 years).
It remains non-Conservative enough to cause real difficulties to the ELECTED government of the day.
Of course it is stuffed with too many peers; too many Labour, Liberal Democrat and ‘cross-benchers’ with consistent opposition voting records, and Conservatives as fierce in undermining the elected government as anyone. At one point since July 2019, I half-expected Boris to appoint 500 peers so as to smooth his path.
I would much rather have the House of Lords stuffed with people who know how wealth is created than with those whose only experience has been how to destroy wealth.
The power of the Lords is after all today somewhat limited. That said the attendance allowance should be done away with to reflect Noblesse Oblige. The honour should be sufficient.
If we are too squeamish to sell membership of the House of Lords then a return to the sale of the rank of Baronet should be instituted. Worth much more than a mere knighthood.
The lords actually get to influence parliamentary process over and above the electorate. The idea this might have legitimacy based on who nominated them or the size of their ‘contribution’ is another attack on democracy.
Your argument is that corruption is inevitable, so we should just embrace it?
Good idea. And set the price by auction.
I did not really read the article as I know it will be another cynical, modern anti British thing from some young mindset…
But the HoL never should have stopped just being the hereditary Lords and the Bishops – once the commoners got in it was over. It is like letting the children get equal votes with the parents, it is a disaster. At least the Aristocracy have a vested interest, a lineage, and some Nobility. Naturally it is stacked with the British equivalent of ‘The Squad’ with the Labour PMs getting to elevate degenerates and crazies to ‘Rub the Right’s nose in it’, as Blair so eloquently put it.
Before people become excited about this alleged selling of peerages, we should bear in mind the political make up of the Lords, after 6 years of Conservative government (some say 11 years).
It remains non-Conservative enough to cause real difficulties to the ELECTED government of the day.
Of course it is stuffed with too many peers; too many Labour, Liberal Democrat and ‘cross-benchers’ with consistent opposition voting records, and Conservatives as fierce in undermining the elected government as anyone. At one point since July 2019, I half-expected Boris to appoint 500 peers so as to smooth his path.