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CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

Would anyone really care or even react if a U.S. Navy Ohio class sub ‘took out’ North Korea tomorrow?

I don’t think so, and it would certainly “encourage the others”*would it not?

(*V.)

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago

Depends on which way the wind is blowing and the EMP damage to the surrounding countries’ infrastructure. China would not be at all amused.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

Or china could attack Taiwan while north Korea are causing carnage elsewhere. This is why we should all calm down.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

Not if they are ‘air bursts’.

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago

An “aiirburst” nuke can cause almost complete electrical and electronic destruction of infra – structure with, for major items, a 2-year lead-time and that’s assuming the ‘factory’ escapes destruction

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Oh jolly good. Im not sure that makes me feel better about the whole thing.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

It reduces the radiation to an absolute minimum, whilst also ensuring maximum blast damage.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Jesus, I’m glad I don’t live over there, I’ve read about thermobaric weapons too, big blast no radiation, what will be will be though, I think we nearly are past the point of sorting this out nicely like grown ups anyway. Third time lucky.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

We might have some very impressive ‘sunsets’ for a few years afterwards, if we are lucky!

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

We might have some very impressive ‘sunsets’ for a few years afterwards, if we are lucky!

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Jesus, I’m glad I don’t live over there, I’ve read about thermobaric weapons too, big blast no radiation, what will be will be though, I think we nearly are past the point of sorting this out nicely like grown ups anyway. Third time lucky.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

It reduces the radiation to an absolute minimum, whilst also ensuring maximum blast damage.

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago

An “aiirburst” nuke can cause almost complete electrical and electronic destruction of infra – structure with, for major items, a 2-year lead-time and that’s assuming the ‘factory’ escapes destruction

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Oh jolly good. Im not sure that makes me feel better about the whole thing.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

Or china could attack Taiwan while north Korea are causing carnage elsewhere. This is why we should all calm down.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

Not if they are ‘air bursts’.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

A sentiment many could share if it could just target KJ-u and his immediate cabal. But to also then kill millions of desperately poor and suppressed N Koreans – no.
Interestingly one of reasons JFK didn’t hit missile sites in Cuba in 62 was US memory of the ‘day that will live in infamy’ and the desire never to commit such an act and diminish the US in the process. A response, yes. A first strike, no.

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago

Depends on which way the wind is blowing and the EMP damage to the surrounding countries’ infrastructure. China would not be at all amused.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

A sentiment many could share if it could just target KJ-u and his immediate cabal. But to also then kill millions of desperately poor and suppressed N Koreans – no.
Interestingly one of reasons JFK didn’t hit missile sites in Cuba in 62 was US memory of the ‘day that will live in infamy’ and the desire never to commit such an act and diminish the US in the process. A response, yes. A first strike, no.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

Would anyone really care or even react if a U.S. Navy Ohio class sub ‘took out’ North Korea tomorrow?

I don’t think so, and it would certainly “encourage the others”*would it not?

(*V.)

John Le Huquet
John Le Huquet
1 year ago

One day we are going to have to confront this excuse of a nation state. Everything else has failed.

steven ford
steven ford
1 year ago
Reply to  John Le Huquet

The sooner the better

steven ford
steven ford
1 year ago
Reply to  John Le Huquet

The sooner the better

John Le Huquet
John Le Huquet
1 year ago

One day we are going to have to confront this excuse of a nation state. Everything else has failed.

Bruce Edgar
Bruce Edgar
1 year ago

America has still not declared an end to the Korean War. It has persisted all this time in maintaining a high threat posture. Whatever else he may be, unlike our American Perpetual War Neocons, Kim is not stupid. His rush to arm, his frequent demonstrations of destructive capability–these are defensive gestures. The rattler hisses when approached. The Musk Oxen form a butt to butt circle for defense. Kim launches missiles. Our inability to welcome N Korea into the world not only harms its people, but also harms our prospects for a better world. Uh, unless you are a defense contractor or a Biden who sees threat manufacture as a ticket to power and money.

Last edited 1 year ago by Bruce Edgar
Bruce Edgar
Bruce Edgar
1 year ago

America has still not declared an end to the Korean War. It has persisted all this time in maintaining a high threat posture. Whatever else he may be, unlike our American Perpetual War Neocons, Kim is not stupid. His rush to arm, his frequent demonstrations of destructive capability–these are defensive gestures. The rattler hisses when approached. The Musk Oxen form a butt to butt circle for defense. Kim launches missiles. Our inability to welcome N Korea into the world not only harms its people, but also harms our prospects for a better world. Uh, unless you are a defense contractor or a Biden who sees threat manufacture as a ticket to power and money.

Last edited 1 year ago by Bruce Edgar
David Lindsay
David Lindsay
1 year ago

So, is North Korea barely electrified? Or does it have nuclear weapons? Those two things cannot both be true. And do you know what a nuclear missile launched from the Korean Peninsula cannot do? It cannot hit the British Isles. Nor does anyone in North Korea have any reason to wish for it to do so. Unless, of course, we were to give them such a reason.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

Of course it can be true. They can have power to the nuclear sites, while happily letting the bulk of the population starve

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

If NK can put a satellite into orbit they can nuke the British Isles. We (Brits) are, in theory, still at war with NK because there is no Peace Document, only a Cease Fire Agreement. Even if ‘small’ nuke missed the UK it could cause a lot of (EMP) damage to us and our neighbours. The warped minds in charge of NK have no conscience about collateral damage. (Do “We”).

D Walsh
D Walsh
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

It’s the UK and US who are the danger to the world

Unlike the US, North Korea have never nuked anyone

Last edited 1 year ago by D Walsh
D Walsh
D Walsh
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

It’s the UK and US who are the danger to the world

Unlike the US, North Korea have never nuked anyone

Last edited 1 year ago by D Walsh
CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

They could make quite a mess of Japan, if they were capable of retaliation after the first strike by the Ohio’s.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Do you not think they might have factored getting nuked by Americans into their plans?

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

Sadly no Ms Emery.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

The north Koreans have been working on this for a long time though, I just think there’s a lot of people that have an axe to grind at the moment getting ready to grind it, I think maybe we should be careful not to underestimate that.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

Really it’s a case of Chinese responsibility, not ours.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

I have seen a few opinions saying the Chinese will do as please regardless, they may go for Taiwan anyway regardless of what the west says or does now, we will have to react and it will all be very exciting. Time will tell I suppose.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

I have seen a few opinions saying the Chinese will do as please regardless, they may go for Taiwan anyway regardless of what the west says or does now, we will have to react and it will all be very exciting. Time will tell I suppose.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

Really it’s a case of Chinese responsibility, not ours.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

The north Koreans have been working on this for a long time though, I just think there’s a lot of people that have an axe to grind at the moment getting ready to grind it, I think maybe we should be careful not to underestimate that.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

Sadly no Ms Emery.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Do you not think they might have factored getting nuked by Americans into their plans?

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

Of course it can be true. They can have power to the nuclear sites, while happily letting the bulk of the population starve

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

If NK can put a satellite into orbit they can nuke the British Isles. We (Brits) are, in theory, still at war with NK because there is no Peace Document, only a Cease Fire Agreement. Even if ‘small’ nuke missed the UK it could cause a lot of (EMP) damage to us and our neighbours. The warped minds in charge of NK have no conscience about collateral damage. (Do “We”).

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

They could make quite a mess of Japan, if they were capable of retaliation after the first strike by the Ohio’s.

David Lindsay
David Lindsay
1 year ago

So, is North Korea barely electrified? Or does it have nuclear weapons? Those two things cannot both be true. And do you know what a nuclear missile launched from the Korean Peninsula cannot do? It cannot hit the British Isles. Nor does anyone in North Korea have any reason to wish for it to do so. Unless, of course, we were to give them such a reason.