Another reason this lifelong Democrat will be voting either Independent or GOP in the next election: the Dems represent the party of the insulated professional class and they flat out lie when they say they want to help the poor and working classes, including migrants.
All one needs to do is look at how poor & working class people are treated in “liberal” cities – and how they are treating a mere 50 migrants entering their city as some kind of atrocity – that these people are hypocritical liars.
As a reader of the WaPo (yes I know it’s trash but I’m going ‘behind the lines’ for all of us), it just amazes me that this has been twisted by the democrat journalists and the readers into expressing pride in how well they treated the immigrants shipped to them by De Santis.
It was less than a hundred and they think they’re heroes! De Santis should send thousands more up there and then see if the locals still manage to stick to their principals on accepting mass migration.
I chip in occasionally. I read this stuff to try and understand American ‘liberals’, but usually come away flabbergasted at their sheer ignorance and extreme bias.
It’s understandable. As a gullible teenager reading the trendy philosophy books l used to justify communism. But by my early twenties I realised what a numpty I’d been.
What I don’t understand is the masses of ‘intelligent’ people who still justify socialism when they reach their forties.
I cannot see why.
Form a very early age it seemed obvious to me that socialism was a fraud, and also a Trojan horse for a lot of malcontent and vindictive individuals to vent their spite on the the rest of society, or at least the sections of society that they envy and loath without revealing their true nature or hypocrisy.
I count members of family among this group which might be why I saw through it early on.
Richard Pearse
1 year ago
Excellent and concise article!
Therefore, Biden et al, who flew illegal aliens (the correct word legally – they are not “undocumented”, they broke the law) in the dead of night to various cities around the US, is guilty of mass kidnapping (or fraud).
Clearly, the “sanctuary” government in Massachusetts and, it’s municipality of Martha’s Vineyard, is an illegal alien “sanctuary”, so long as they all stay in Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Florida (why didn’t Biden ship them all to California?).
Indeed, the current Democrat/woke/left bunch seem to be carrying on a grotesque parody of the silly school custom of Opposites Day! Certainly in the village where I live, where there are few secrets and a generations-old database, it is invariably those who proudly virtue signal with yard signs that are in practice the most judgemental, mean and generally dark souls. Happy souls just get on with life in a practical way, but the insecure seem to have a need to conspicuously whitewash their sepulchres.
Of course, the idea that DeSantis kidnapped or defrauded anyone is absurd. What he did do is execute one of the most effective political stunts in recent history.
The response in Martha’s Vineyard, one of the world’s wealthiest and most exclusive enclaves, was beyond parody as they grappled with this “humanitarian crisis!,” shipped these folks to a local military base (as so many border states do) within 24 hours, and then congratulated themselves for having so “openly welcomed” these people. Gee, some even got hugs!
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R Wright
1 year ago
Watching progressives turn into migrant despising authoritarians almost overniht when they actually have to deal with them in person is very entertaining. It has the same energy as when travellers arrive in a Lib Dem voting town in England.
Martin Smith
1 year ago
Pathetic. Illegal immigration is being used (weaponised in their own hyperbolic language) by globalists and their outriders, to undermine western working-class communties and culture. De Santis’ stunt has exposed once and for all the superficial displays of caring by the ruling elite and they hate it. Fortunately there is nothing they can do to deflect this and attempts in that direction just make them look even worse.
This is a fascinating example of the right taking a page out of Saul Alinsky’s book Rules for Radicals. Rule 4 states: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” Rule 5 states: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”
Much of the electorate voted for Trump in hopes of border control. This tactic, however, may be worth more than the millions of votes cast on that issue on behalf of Trump.
John Cole
1 year ago
How on earth do you
Post an uptick on here?
I’m wearing my finger out trying-;
Lewis Brainard
1 year ago
First, I’m surprised people on both sides of the political spectrum aren’t outraged at this negligent use of taxpayer dollars. Why the heck should taxpayers have to for the $12,000 bill PER PERSON for this publicity stunt? Even if you like DeSantis, you can admit that this was 100% a publicity stunt. That’s not fiscally responsible use of taxes that are already too high for most.
Second, they were not, in fact, illegal immigrants. They were here legally and undergoing the legal asylum-seeking process which started with them surrendering themselves to US officials at the border. And if they were made specific promises about which benefits they’d receive (and didn’t receive), this is textbook inveiglement. Not to mention they were told they were going to FL and taken to MA instead. The ONLY thing with which I agree from your article is that we should wait for the facts to come out before deciding to prosecute anyone, but if what the class action lawsuit alleges is true, this is fraud at best, kidnapping at worst.
Mary Bruels
1 year ago
You know you’re over the target when the flack increases. DeSantis knows how to get into liberals heads by using facts.
13th Gen MYFLWR Tobey
1 year ago
Hey Skippy, sorry, but I don’t think “ without papers“, Florida or Texas, were manipulated when they got off the boat, redirected somewhere else, that’s not what we do in the United States, of course within the context of an insurrection I can imagine people feel entitled to do just whatever they want and not necessarily based on United States law or the US Constitution. But this doesn’t seem to be a topic that can be easily to easily discerned based on the mental obstructions that many seem to have?
13th Gen MYFLWR Tobey
1 year ago
Are United States laws and the United States Constitution are exactly what they are, until grifting power grabbing ignorant learn conditioned behavior takes it over, and implements whatever divisiveness their blind faith will intends and that becomes God’s will right that pretty much sums it up!
Another reason this lifelong Democrat will be voting either Independent or GOP in the next election: the Dems represent the party of the insulated professional class and they flat out lie when they say they want to help the poor and working classes, including migrants.
All one needs to do is look at how poor & working class people are treated in “liberal” cities – and how they are treating a mere 50 migrants entering their city as some kind of atrocity – that these people are hypocritical liars.
As a reader of the WaPo (yes I know it’s trash but I’m going ‘behind the lines’ for all of us), it just amazes me that this has been twisted by the democrat journalists and the readers into expressing pride in how well they treated the immigrants shipped to them by De Santis.
It was less than a hundred and they think they’re heroes! De Santis should send thousands more up there and then see if the locals still manage to stick to their principals on accepting mass migration.
How did you survive the WaPo comment section?
I chip in occasionally. I read this stuff to try and understand American ‘liberals’, but usually come away flabbergasted at their sheer ignorance and extreme bias.
Why were you ever a Democrat?
I was formerly a Standard Brain Dead Liberal who voted Democrat too; youthful folly.
It’s understandable. As a gullible teenager reading the trendy philosophy books l used to justify communism. But by my early twenties I realised what a numpty I’d been.
What I don’t understand is the masses of ‘intelligent’ people who still justify socialism when they reach their forties.
I cannot see why.
Form a very early age it seemed obvious to me that socialism was a fraud, and also a Trojan horse for a lot of malcontent and vindictive individuals to vent their spite on the the rest of society, or at least the sections of society that they envy and loath without revealing their true nature or hypocrisy.
I count members of family among this group which might be why I saw through it early on.
Excellent and concise article!
Therefore, Biden et al, who flew illegal aliens (the correct word legally – they are not “undocumented”, they broke the law) in the dead of night to various cities around the US, is guilty of mass kidnapping (or fraud).
Clearly, the “sanctuary” government in Massachusetts and, it’s municipality of Martha’s Vineyard, is an illegal alien “sanctuary”, so long as they all stay in Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Florida (why didn’t Biden ship them all to California?).
Democrats generally, with solar flares of sanctimony, accuse their opponents of doing exactly as they do.
Indeed, the current Democrat/woke/left bunch seem to be carrying on a grotesque parody of the silly school custom of Opposites Day! Certainly in the village where I live, where there are few secrets and a generations-old database, it is invariably those who proudly virtue signal with yard signs that are in practice the most judgemental, mean and generally dark souls. Happy souls just get on with life in a practical way, but the insecure seem to have a need to conspicuously whitewash their sepulchres.
Hypocrisy of the first magnitude…
Of course, the idea that DeSantis kidnapped or defrauded anyone is absurd. What he did do is execute one of the most effective political stunts in recent history.
The response in Martha’s Vineyard, one of the world’s wealthiest and most exclusive enclaves, was beyond parody as they grappled with this “humanitarian crisis!,” shipped these folks to a local military base (as so many border states do) within 24 hours, and then congratulated themselves for having so “openly welcomed” these people. Gee, some even got hugs!
Watching progressives turn into migrant despising authoritarians almost overniht when they actually have to deal with them in person is very entertaining. It has the same energy as when travellers arrive in a Lib Dem voting town in England.
Pathetic. Illegal immigration is being used (weaponised in their own hyperbolic language) by globalists and their outriders, to undermine western working-class communties and culture. De Santis’ stunt has exposed once and for all the superficial displays of caring by the ruling elite and they hate it. Fortunately there is nothing they can do to deflect this and attempts in that direction just make them look even worse.
This is a fascinating example of the right taking a page out of Saul Alinsky’s book Rules for Radicals. Rule 4 states: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” Rule 5 states: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”
Much of the electorate voted for Trump in hopes of border control. This tactic, however, may be worth more than the millions of votes cast on that issue on behalf of Trump.
How on earth do you
Post an uptick on here?
I’m wearing my finger out trying-;
First, I’m surprised people on both sides of the political spectrum aren’t outraged at this negligent use of taxpayer dollars. Why the heck should taxpayers have to for the $12,000 bill PER PERSON for this publicity stunt? Even if you like DeSantis, you can admit that this was 100% a publicity stunt. That’s not fiscally responsible use of taxes that are already too high for most.
Second, they were not, in fact, illegal immigrants. They were here legally and undergoing the legal asylum-seeking process which started with them surrendering themselves to US officials at the border. And if they were made specific promises about which benefits they’d receive (and didn’t receive), this is textbook inveiglement. Not to mention they were told they were going to FL and taken to MA instead. The ONLY thing with which I agree from your article is that we should wait for the facts to come out before deciding to prosecute anyone, but if what the class action lawsuit alleges is true, this is fraud at best, kidnapping at worst.
You know you’re over the target when the flack increases. DeSantis knows how to get into liberals heads by using facts.
Hey Skippy, sorry, but I don’t think “ without papers“, Florida or Texas, were manipulated when they got off the boat, redirected somewhere else, that’s not what we do in the United States, of course within the context of an insurrection I can imagine people feel entitled to do just whatever they want and not necessarily based on United States law or the US Constitution. But this doesn’t seem to be a topic that can be easily to easily discerned based on the mental obstructions that many seem to have?
Are United States laws and the United States Constitution are exactly what they are, until grifting power grabbing ignorant learn conditioned behavior takes it over, and implements whatever divisiveness their blind faith will intends and that becomes God’s will right that pretty much sums it up!