What is that “big elephant”, and what are your views on it?
Stephen Walsh
3 months ago
Student attainment in maths, reading and science as measured by the 2022 PISA report fell in all four parts of the UK: Wales saw the sharpest drop, the decline in England was least severe, while Scotland and Northern Ireland were in between. Lockdown was catastrophic for education and student welfare everywhere, but worst in places like Scotland and Wales where lockdown fanaticism at devolved government level was most intense. And after surveying such damage, Nicola Sturgeon biggest regret is that she didn’t lock down sooner. Well you get what you vote for.
Hardly ‘catastrophic’. At least granny was saved however.
Robbie K
3 months ago
Here we go again. Another BS article full of spurious claims, spurious experts and spurious scientific papers which belongs in the same sphere as QAnon. Is the author actually Andrew Bridgen in disguise?
Don’t bother replying directly. He is, I suspect, not terribly bright as is evidenced by a) inabilty to construct an argument and b) inability to spell at times
Don’t bother replying directly. He is, I suspect, not terribly bright as is evidenced by a) inabilty to construct an argument and b) inability to spell at times
Heh heh, if you’re going to be a spelling and grammar fascist always make sure your own posts are correct ;o)
My 12 year old son gained 30lbs during lockdowns. He’s always been a big eater but the lack of sports clubs and his being close to the fridge at home alone all day when school was closed really didn’t help. Thankfully we turned it around and he is finally at a healthy weight after 1.5 years of sports and monitoring his food.
Charles Stanhope
3 months ago
How absolutely PATHETIC who does SHE think she is kidding?*
“there is no such thing as a level of acceptable loss.”
This is a huge lie.
For obvious reasons we avoid the terminology, but the fact remains that in public policy there is almost always a level of “acceptable loss” simply because there is almost always a trade-off somewhere.
We could prevent almost every road traffic death or serious injury simply by banning cars. We don’t because the costs of doing so to the economy, personal freedom etc would be huge and in turn have severe consequences for peoples health and wellbeing.
So we mitigate the risks with rules and appeals to people’s good sense but ultimately accept that a certain level of loss must be balanced against the benefits.
In my view the biggest failing in Covid policy was that no-one in a position of influence appeared to have the courage to ask, “Yes, but what are the costs of lockdown? Might they in fact be worse in the long run?”
Even if lockdown was ultimately the best – or least worst – policy, without properly considering that question decision-makers were failing in their public duty.
if the Government’s prime directive is to save lives, then every government in history has failed dismally. I am not a betting man, but I’ll happily wager that Britain’s governments have not been able to preserve a single life among the millions of subjects alive at the time of the Act of Union.
Absolutely. The “zero risk” policy fallacy has caused untold damage in the UK.
Ever wondered why everything has become so expensive, slow and difficult ? Look no further.
We’ve traded common sense for moral cowardice.
And, as we all know, the collateral damage from letting the NHS focus only on Covid has been massive.
Despite Sridhar being a Professor of “Global Public Health”, she is an anthropologist, not a clinician. But Sturgeon ignored clinicians and listened to Sridhar’s “Zero COVID” nonsense because Sridhar ticked all the boxes.
The boxes: (a) not English, (b) not Male (c) Exotic (d) promoting a policy (“Zero COVID”) that was much more extreme than Boris’ policy (e) A Wikipedia page that makes her look like a character from a Val McDermid novel. [That’s enough boxes. Ed.]
I don’t know. I’m no fan of the inquiry. But, if nothing else, it’s exposed the utter hypocrisy of Sturgeon and her media camp followers. How they all screamed about Boris Johnson’s behaviour and WhatsApp messages going missing. Then we find out that Sturgeon’s just like Johnson, only with a camper van.
Was it really only two years ago we were being lectured about how Brexit had made Scottish independence “inevitable” and how wonderful Sturgeon was ?
I am beginning to feel sorry for Scottish Nationalism, it deserves far better than the Scottish Nationalist Party.
This all translates into more Labour MPs in Westminster within a year.
From the moment she first appeared on the political stage I thought Sturgeon was an awful creature. Her performances since leaving office, including this appearance with crocodile tears, have solidified that view!
‘Excess deaths, most likely due to pandemic-related disruptions to medical services and lifestyle changes’.
Well, at least one Covid myth is alive and well. Luckily, no one has any desire to investigate the really big elephant in the room.
What is that “big elephant”, and what are your views on it?
Student attainment in maths, reading and science as measured by the 2022 PISA report fell in all four parts of the UK: Wales saw the sharpest drop, the decline in England was least severe, while Scotland and Northern Ireland were in between. Lockdown was catastrophic for education and student welfare everywhere, but worst in places like Scotland and Wales where lockdown fanaticism at devolved government level was most intense. And after surveying such damage, Nicola Sturgeon biggest regret is that she didn’t lock down sooner. Well you get what you vote for.
Hardly ‘catastrophic’. At least granny was saved however.
Here we go again. Another BS article full of spurious claims, spurious experts and spurious scientific papers which belongs in the same sphere as QAnon. Is the author actually Andrew Bridgen in disguise?
Here we go again. Another BS comment from a person who simply won’t believe obvious facts.
Don’t bother replying directly. He is, I suspect, not terribly bright as is evidenced by a) inabilty to construct an argument and b) inability to spell at times
Heh heh, if you’re going to be a spelling and grammar fascist always make sure your own posts are correct ;o)
Learned how to spell biased yet?
… and spurious comments
My 12 year old son gained 30lbs during lockdowns. He’s always been a big eater but the lack of sports clubs and his being close to the fridge at home alone all day when school was closed really didn’t help. Thankfully we turned it around and he is finally at a healthy weight after 1.5 years of sports and monitoring his food.
How absolutely PATHETIC who does SHE think she is kidding?*
(*The completely fabricated BLUBBING!)
A woman’s prerogative.
If in trouble turn on the waterworks
Has ‘she’ no shame?
“there is no such thing as a level of acceptable loss.”
This is a huge lie.
For obvious reasons we avoid the terminology, but the fact remains that in public policy there is almost always a level of “acceptable loss” simply because there is almost always a trade-off somewhere.
We could prevent almost every road traffic death or serious injury simply by banning cars. We don’t because the costs of doing so to the economy, personal freedom etc would be huge and in turn have severe consequences for peoples health and wellbeing.
So we mitigate the risks with rules and appeals to people’s good sense but ultimately accept that a certain level of loss must be balanced against the benefits.
In my view the biggest failing in Covid policy was that no-one in a position of influence appeared to have the courage to ask, “Yes, but what are the costs of lockdown? Might they in fact be worse in the long run?”
Even if lockdown was ultimately the best – or least worst – policy, without properly considering that question decision-makers were failing in their public duty.
if the Government’s prime directive is to save lives, then every government in history has failed dismally. I am not a betting man, but I’ll happily wager that Britain’s governments have not been able to preserve a single life among the millions of subjects alive at the time of the Act of Union.
There are no perfect solutions, just trade offs:
Absolutely. The “zero risk” policy fallacy has caused untold damage in the UK.
Ever wondered why everything has become so expensive, slow and difficult ? Look no further.
We’ve traded common sense for moral cowardice.
And, as we all know, the collateral damage from letting the NHS focus only on Covid has been massive.
This is bog standard common sense and it horrifies me that we are still skirting around such basic considerations in our discussions of covid.
Sturgeon was being “advised” by the execrable Devi Sridhar. They HAVE to double down on their dogmatism, it’s all they have left.
Where on earth did they find her?
Presumably being Scotland she “was cheap at the price”regardless of any proficiency?
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Despite Sridhar being a Professor of “Global Public Health”, she is an anthropologist, not a clinician. But Sturgeon ignored clinicians and listened to Sridhar’s “Zero COVID” nonsense because Sridhar ticked all the boxes.
What boxes exactly? I am a bit
“behind the curve “on such matters .
The boxes: (a) not English, (b) not Male (c) Exotic (d) promoting a policy (“Zero COVID”) that was much more extreme than Boris’ policy (e) A Wikipedia page that makes her look like a character from a Val McDermid novel. [That’s enough boxes. Ed.]
Thank you.
This is why the inquiry is useless; “In fact, some of the most crucial questions were not even asked.”
I don’t know. I’m no fan of the inquiry. But, if nothing else, it’s exposed the utter hypocrisy of Sturgeon and her media camp followers. How they all screamed about Boris Johnson’s behaviour and WhatsApp messages going missing. Then we find out that Sturgeon’s just like Johnson, only with a camper van.
Was it really only two years ago we were being lectured about how Brexit had made Scottish independence “inevitable” and how wonderful Sturgeon was ?
I am beginning to feel sorry for Scottish Nationalism, it deserves far better than the Scottish Nationalist Party.
This all translates into more Labour MPs in Westminster within a year.
This is fair
From the moment she first appeared on the political stage I thought Sturgeon was an awful creature. Her performances since leaving office, including this appearance with crocodile tears, have solidified that view!