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Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago

Over-paying for energy couldn’t possibly be first and foremost a direct result of two decades of government policy specifically designed to increase energy prices, could it ? That’ll be that genius Ed Milliband’s climate change act, Net Zero stupidity, not investing in domestic oil and gas production, importing coking coal instead of producing our own, not building more nuclear power stations, closing existing power stations, … the list goes on and on.
All policies of which Sharon Graham no doubt approves. Along with the rest of our “leaders”.
But no – it can all be fixed by an ownership change. Because that really will increase supply, won’t it ?
These idiots are – in Wolfgang Pauli’s immortal phrase – “not even wrong”.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
11 months ago
Reply to  Peter B

A 12 year old could figure this out. Why can’t govt? Again, I’m always flabbergasted by the incompetence of govt – right and left. If you implement policies to increase the cost of energy, the price will go up. WTF is happening to make the west so damn delusional?

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
11 months ago
Reply to  Peter B

A 12 year old could figure this out. Why can’t govt? Again, I’m always flabbergasted by the incompetence of govt – right and left. If you implement policies to increase the cost of energy, the price will go up. WTF is happening to make the west so damn delusional?

Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago

Over-paying for energy couldn’t possibly be first and foremost a direct result of two decades of government policy specifically designed to increase energy prices, could it ? That’ll be that genius Ed Milliband’s climate change act, Net Zero stupidity, not investing in domestic oil and gas production, importing coking coal instead of producing our own, not building more nuclear power stations, closing existing power stations, … the list goes on and on.
All policies of which Sharon Graham no doubt approves. Along with the rest of our “leaders”.
But no – it can all be fixed by an ownership change. Because that really will increase supply, won’t it ?
These idiots are – in Wolfgang Pauli’s immortal phrase – “not even wrong”.

Charlie Dibsdale
Charlie Dibsdale
1 year ago

Nationalisation did not work back in the day and for exactly the same reasons will not work now. Politicians for the last 40 years have completely bolloxed our nation’s energy policies and strategies. Our country needs cheap energy and to be as self-sufficient as possible enabling the country to generate wealth for us all. This can better be done if the political class pull their fingers out and think longer-term and avoid dumbed-down socialist ideology that patently does not work.

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
1 year ago

“Perhaps Unite could argue that nationalisation would ensure more rapid building of power plants than leaving it to the private sector. “
One of the most laughable lines in recent memory.

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
1 year ago

“Perhaps Unite could argue that nationalisation would ensure more rapid building of power plants than leaving it to the private sector. “
One of the most laughable lines in recent memory.

Charlie Dibsdale
Charlie Dibsdale
1 year ago

Nationalisation did not work back in the day and for exactly the same reasons will not work now. Politicians for the last 40 years have completely bolloxed our nation’s energy policies and strategies. Our country needs cheap energy and to be as self-sufficient as possible enabling the country to generate wealth for us all. This can better be done if the political class pull their fingers out and think longer-term and avoid dumbed-down socialist ideology that patently does not work.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Having zero competition ” faux privatisation” in fields such as water, electricity, gas, railways, is an abberation that merely fills investors pockets from the no-alternative choice consumer…. not unlike the days of USSR economics…

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Having zero competition ” faux privatisation” in fields such as water, electricity, gas, railways, is an abberation that merely fills investors pockets from the no-alternative choice consumer…. not unlike the days of USSR economics…

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

As the great majority of the British voters believe that the global warming frenzy is:
a. A political agenda
b. Britain’s contribution makes not one jot of difference
and that our air is absolutely fine, our Government should wake up and radically supercharge our own oil and gas extraction and bin the net Zero/ electric only cars by 2030, once and for all, plus all the other draconian impositions: it is just another re-run of the brainwashing that led all the lemmings into the recycling joke: to me, its rubbish, goes in one bin, and its the disposal people who are paid, and profit from, sorting the stuff out.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

ps being an eco zealot is the social death equivalent of ” holding knife like pen”….on the settee in the leounge parlour room…

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
11 months ago

Is this true though? Do most voters realize the devastating implications of net zero? I’m not sure. We certainly haven’t had an adult conversation about this anywhere.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

ps being an eco zealot is the social death equivalent of ” holding knife like pen”….on the settee in the leounge parlour room…

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
11 months ago

Is this true though? Do most voters realize the devastating implications of net zero? I’m not sure. We certainly haven’t had an adult conversation about this anywhere.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

As the great majority of the British voters believe that the global warming frenzy is:
a. A political agenda
b. Britain’s contribution makes not one jot of difference
and that our air is absolutely fine, our Government should wake up and radically supercharge our own oil and gas extraction and bin the net Zero/ electric only cars by 2030, once and for all, plus all the other draconian impositions: it is just another re-run of the brainwashing that led all the lemmings into the recycling joke: to me, its rubbish, goes in one bin, and its the disposal people who are paid, and profit from, sorting the stuff out.

AC Harper
AC Harper
11 months ago

“And then we could regulate what households and businesses pay for their energy.”
But we already do through ‘green’ taxes and VAT – both of which could be reduced overnight making energy much cheaper although not more plentiful.
But Government control is a lazy and drawn out process. Fracking anyone?

AC Harper
AC Harper
11 months ago

“And then we could regulate what households and businesses pay for their energy.”
But we already do through ‘green’ taxes and VAT – both of which could be reduced overnight making energy much cheaper although not more plentiful.
But Government control is a lazy and drawn out process. Fracking anyone?

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

Of course it was Centrica that decommissioned a large part of its Rough Storage facility for short term profit maximisation. Regulators/Govt should potentially have stepped in and prevented that on a national security grounds after horizon scanning on potential future risks. So certainly some lessons to learn.
However v much doubt this Unite ‘desire’ ends up being a Starmer priority. It’s unaffordable anyway. Much else we can do first on different forms, more efficiency and much enhanced regulation.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

Of course it was Centrica that decommissioned a large part of its Rough Storage facility for short term profit maximisation. Regulators/Govt should potentially have stepped in and prevented that on a national security grounds after horizon scanning on potential future risks. So certainly some lessons to learn.
However v much doubt this Unite ‘desire’ ends up being a Starmer priority. It’s unaffordable anyway. Much else we can do first on different forms, more efficiency and much enhanced regulation.