Yes, I saw interviews with Moore and the other makers of this film yesterday, on the Jimmy Dore show, I think. It’s nice to see a bit of common sense come into the debate, especially as it is coming from the left, which is normally batshit-loonie, as we all know.
Lesley Keay
4 years ago
I watched this film last night and I thought that it appeared to provide evidence to back up the claims that it made. Now, it may be that I just think this because it appears to confirm my own concerns about the green energy movement, so yes, it could just be confirmation bias. However, I have been astonished at the calls for it to be banned. I have yet to see any counter -evidence by those calling for it to be banned to dispute the claims made in it. More concerning, is the attack on free speech that this would entail. Not only are we expected to just accept the climate catastrophe claims unquestionably but we are not to be allowed to question the proposed solutions and the motives of those proposing these solutions. A very scary world indeed.
Dave Weeden
4 years ago
Jeff Green’s conclusion is that the world needs nothing short of an overhaul of the whole capitalism system
Meh, this is just more “current situation proves my politics are correct. There used to be an organisation called “population count down” that advertised on the Guardian’s front page in the 70s. What happened to them? Fewer people is the only possible solution. Fair play to China, they seem to be trying to achieve that.
john.hurley2018
4 years ago
NZ is “the last bus stop before Antarctica”; “if you draw a circle out 200 km “all you get is seagulls”. Unfortunately no one wants to hear limits to growth arguments. I think they think “may be true; but surely not”. The PM has committed us to being carbon free in 30 years. Property development and progressivism have been predominant forces. We are now stuck with a gigantic tourism industry shared between New Zealanders, Chinese and (to a lesser extent) Koreans. Buses sit idle and motels and hotels are empty. Real wages in that sector had been falling since the 1980’s. http://www.tailrisk.co.nz/d… https://www.youtube.com/wat…
Fraser Bailey
4 years ago
I have now watched the film. It provides some very valuable facts and ammunition for those of us who saw through the whole green energy scam some years ago. That said, even I was shocked by some of these people and some of the scams.
Whatever – I have never bought a car, I walk or cycle everywhere, and I almost never buy new consumer or computer or electrical goods etc. (One CD player in 36 years). I’m doing what I can.
Tom Hawk
4 years ago
Is there a concise written version of the arguments and evidence?
A slow speaking commentry, gimmicky interviews repeating the same answer and pictures from the ISS do not offer any much to think about.
Mark Corby
4 years ago
The ‘elephant in the room’ is that there are far to many people in the world’. Bovine doctrines such as “every sperm is sacred”, and untrammelled advances In medicine, have led us to the brink of a very real catastrophe. Moore is to be applauded for exposing the fraudulent tosh that has enveloped the so called Green world. It is indeed surprising that he managed to penetrate the miasma, despite his rabidly leftist credentials. However do not despair, perhaps the forthcoming Third Opium War will rectify the situation for all our benefit?
David George
4 years ago
I’ve watched large parts of the doco, it’s overt attempts to influence “thinking” via emotion stopped me watching more. Some very good points though, especially concerning the bio fuels travesty but poisoned with an overriding anti-humanism.
THE GREEN REICH “Ban everything we can, eco-tax the rest: this could be the motto of the environmentalists in politics. If human CO2 is the problem, then Man must be restrained, controlled, suppressed in every one of his CO2-emitting activities: that is to say, in the totality of his actions. Researching environmentalism from the root of its anti-humanist ethic to the staggering heights of its actual demands ” banning cars, aircraft, meat, nuclear energy, rural life, the market economy, modern agriculture, in short, post-Industrial-Revolution modernity ” Drieu Godefridi shows that environmentalism defines a more radical ideology in its liberticidal, anti-economic and ultimately humanicidal claims than any totalitarian ideology yet seen. “Dividing humanity by a factor of ten” is the environmentalist ideal.”
caro mac
4 years ago
The film’s own poster, illustrating this story, spells the director’s name Jeff Gibbs. You spell it – twice – Jeff Green. One of you is wrong. Disappointing to see such a basic error.
Yes, I saw interviews with Moore and the other makers of this film yesterday, on the Jimmy Dore show, I think. It’s nice to see a bit of common sense come into the debate, especially as it is coming from the left, which is normally batshit-loonie, as we all know.
I watched this film last night and I thought that it appeared to provide evidence to back up the claims that it made. Now, it may be that I just think this because it appears to confirm my own concerns about the green energy movement, so yes, it could just be confirmation bias. However, I have been astonished at the calls for it to be banned. I have yet to see any counter -evidence by those calling for it to be banned to dispute the claims made in it. More concerning, is the attack on free speech that this would entail. Not only are we expected to just accept the climate catastrophe claims unquestionably but we are not to be allowed to question the proposed solutions and the motives of those proposing these solutions. A very scary world indeed.
Meh, this is just more “current situation proves my politics are correct.
There used to be an organisation called “population count down” that advertised on the Guardian’s front page in the 70s. What happened to them? Fewer people is the only possible solution. Fair play to China, they seem to be trying to achieve that.
NZ is “the last bus stop before Antarctica”; “if you draw a circle out 200 km “all you get is seagulls”. Unfortunately no one wants to hear limits to growth arguments. I think they think “may be true; but surely not”. The PM has committed us to being carbon free in 30 years. Property development and progressivism have been predominant forces. We are now stuck with a gigantic tourism industry shared between New Zealanders, Chinese and (to a lesser extent) Koreans. Buses sit idle and motels and hotels are empty. Real wages in that sector had been falling since the 1980’s.
http://www.tailrisk.co.nz/d…
https://www.youtube.com/wat…
I have now watched the film. It provides some very valuable facts and ammunition for those of us who saw through the whole green energy scam some years ago. That said, even I was shocked by some of these people and some of the scams.
Whatever – I have never bought a car, I walk or cycle everywhere, and I almost never buy new consumer or computer or electrical goods etc. (One CD player in 36 years). I’m doing what I can.
Is there a concise written version of the arguments and evidence?
A slow speaking commentry, gimmicky interviews repeating the same answer and pictures from the ISS do not offer any much to think about.
The ‘elephant in the room’ is that there are far to many people in the world’.
Bovine doctrines such as “every sperm is sacred”, and untrammelled advances In medicine, have led us to the brink of a very real catastrophe.
Moore is to be applauded for exposing the fraudulent tosh that has enveloped the so called Green world.
It is indeed surprising that he managed to penetrate the miasma, despite his rabidly leftist credentials.
However do not despair, perhaps the forthcoming Third Opium War will rectify the situation for all our benefit?
I’ve watched large parts of the doco, it’s overt attempts to influence “thinking” via emotion stopped me watching more.
Some very good points though, especially concerning the bio fuels travesty but poisoned with an overriding anti-humanism.
THE GREEN REICH “Ban everything we can, eco-tax the rest: this could be the motto of the environmentalists in politics. If human CO2 is the problem, then Man must be restrained, controlled, suppressed in every one of his CO2-emitting activities: that is to say, in the totality of his actions. Researching environmentalism from the root of its anti-humanist ethic to the staggering heights of its actual demands ” banning cars, aircraft, meat, nuclear energy, rural life, the market economy, modern agriculture, in short, post-Industrial-Revolution modernity ” Drieu Godefridi shows that environmentalism defines a more radical ideology in its liberticidal, anti-economic and ultimately humanicidal claims than any totalitarian ideology yet seen. “Dividing humanity by a factor of ten” is the environmentalist ideal.”
The film’s own poster, illustrating this story, spells the director’s name Jeff Gibbs. You spell it – twice – Jeff Green. One of you is wrong. Disappointing to see such a basic error.