Egads! You mean the establishment media wants to go back to the 20th century when they had complete control of all the information that went out into the public sphere? You mean they want to shape public perceptions to benefit themselves? You mean they covet the immense power that their role as information curator provides? Can it be that they resent the growing trend of people turning increasingly to alternative information sources? I’m stunned, nay flabbergasted, that they would ever abuse their power in such a way or *gasp* work with the government to deceive and manipulate the populace. Surely the author must be mistaken. Surely this cannot be. How will our civilization survive without a small, unqualified, and unelected clique of people to decide what is true and what isn’t or what news is worthy of our fragile ears?
It turns out China was right from the beginning. Unregulated Internet was a breeding ground for cynicism and anarchism. The concentration and strength of a state’s capabilities is a sign of the modernization of a state. China is 1800 years ahead of the West in governing the country and its people.
It turns out China was right from the beginning. Unregulated Internet was a breeding ground for cynicism and anarchism. The concentration and strength of a state’s capabilities is a sign of the modernization of a state. China is 1800 years ahead of the West in governing the country and its people.
Steve Jolly
1 year ago
Egads! You mean the establishment media wants to go back to the 20th century when they had complete control of all the information that went out into the public sphere? You mean they want to shape public perceptions to benefit themselves? You mean they covet the immense power that their role as information curator provides? Can it be that they resent the growing trend of people turning increasingly to alternative information sources? I’m stunned, nay flabbergasted, that they would ever abuse their power in such a way or *gasp* work with the government to deceive and manipulate the populace. Surely the author must be mistaken. Surely this cannot be. How will our civilization survive without a small, unqualified, and unelected clique of people to decide what is true and what isn’t or what news is worthy of our fragile ears?
Philip Stott
1 year ago
Sorry, but it just doesn’t seem credible that a young weekend soldier would have access to the information that he’s supposed to have leaked.
It smells like a fit up to me.
Philip Stott
1 year ago
Sorry, but it just doesn’t seem credible that a young weekend soldier would have access to the information that he’s supposed to have leaked.
It smells like a fit up to me.
AC Harper
1 year ago
The bureaucracy needed to support the Elite has grown like Topsy – very fast and in an uncoordinated way. The bureaucracy is now too big to maintain secrecy or maintain competence so is beginning to rely on authoritarianism to stay in control. You can even make the argument that the bureaucracy is the New Elite, but the Old Elite do not realise this yet. Heaven help us.
Last edited 1 year ago by AC Harper
AC Harper
1 year ago
The bureaucracy needed to support the Elite has grown like Topsy – very fast and in an uncoordinated way. The bureaucracy is now too big to maintain secrecy or maintain competence so is beginning to rely on authoritarianism to stay in control. You can even make the argument that the bureaucracy is the New Elite, but the Old Elite do not realise this yet. Heaven help us.
Last edited 1 year ago by AC Harper
Caractacus Potts
1 year ago
According to Google over 1.3 million people in the USA are cleared to Top Secret level. This is only getting worse because as Martin says everything gets evermore overclassified and yet everyone ‘needs’ the access.
Of course 1.3 million people will contain examples of the greedy, the unstable, the offended, the narcissistic, etc. The whole bloated system is unsustainable and guaranteed to leak like a sieve. Unfortunately these leaks can get innocent people killed.
Maintaining an aura of secrecy under such an impossible system in order to pretend their own competence (and as evidence of their own importance) is just another establishment smoke screen.
I self-identify as a person with a Top Secret clearance: please hand over the documents.
Caractacus Potts
1 year ago
According to Google over 1.3 million people in the USA are cleared to Top Secret level. This is only getting worse because as Martin says everything gets evermore overclassified and yet everyone ‘needs’ the access.
Of course 1.3 million people will contain examples of the greedy, the unstable, the offended, the narcissistic, etc. The whole bloated system is unsustainable and guaranteed to leak like a sieve. Unfortunately these leaks can get innocent people killed.
Maintaining an aura of secrecy under such an impossible system in order to pretend their own competence (and as evidence of their own importance) is just another establishment smoke screen.
Last edited 1 year ago by Caractacus Potts
J Bryant
1 year ago
I only learned about Martin Gurri last week when I saw his longer interview on Triggernometry. For an old guy, he seems to have his finger on the pulse of the modern world.
I actually feel sorry for Teixeira who leaked the classified documents. He should be punished but he strikes me as very naive. The feds and the military will give him life in prison.
J Bryant
1 year ago
I only learned about Martin Gurri last week when I saw his longer interview on Triggernometry. For an old guy, he seems to have his finger on the pulse of the modern world.
I actually feel sorry for Teixeira who leaked the classified documents. He should be punished but he strikes me as very naive. The feds and the military will give him life in prison.
Brian 659
1 year ago
I found Mr. Gurri’s comments on the younger generation’s perspectives on history and on oaths to be particularly interesting. I am also looking for grounds for optimism and would love to share his optimistic take, but I think he is surprisingly shallow when he says that as long a we aren’t arming ourselves and shooting each other we will be OK. For instance, what if the authoritarians control all messaging and start rounding up dissidents and free thinkers? I don’t think we would be OK in that instance. There are a lot of dangers he seems to dismiss.
Brian 659
1 year ago
I found Mr. Gurri’s comments on the younger generation’s perspectives on history and on oaths to be particularly interesting. I am also looking for grounds for optimism and would love to share his optimistic take, but I think he is surprisingly shallow when he says that as long a we aren’t arming ourselves and shooting each other we will be OK. For instance, what if the authoritarians control all messaging and start rounding up dissidents and free thinkers? I don’t think we would be OK in that instance. There are a lot of dangers he seems to dismiss.
Vicha Unkow
1 year ago
Our Media has had the 20 Century control but they made the mistake that the Bolsheviks’, Fascists, Nazis, and other Communists made, they all sent out Misinformation and Lies into an Era of the 21st Century young people who have no old traditional stability and are more Globalists and self centered.
Vicha Unkow
1 year ago
Our Media has had the 20 Century control but they made the mistake that the Bolsheviks’, Fascists, Nazis, and other Communists made, they all sent out Misinformation and Lies into an Era of the 21st Century young people who have no old traditional stability and are more Globalists and self centered.
Vicha Unkow
1 year ago
Who is approving my comment and why? I thought unherd did not believe in Censorship?
Vicha Unkow
1 year ago
Who is approving my comment and why? I thought unherd did not believe in Censorship?
Mr Sketerzen Bhoto
1 year ago
Now find who Q-Anon is.
Andrew Boughton
1 year ago
‘This “collaboration” was … a case of the media and the political establishment standing “shoulder to shoulder” in the face of a common enemy.’ Do we not sense a problem with this? As in, what we now have is no free mainstream press, but instead, our versions of the Soviet-era Izvestia and Pravda?
karlheinz r
1 year ago
I only listened for 20 min. I didn‘t get the topic of this. What is it about?
karlheinz r
1 year ago
I only listened for 20 min. I didn‘t get the topic of this. What is it about?
Egads! You mean the establishment media wants to go back to the 20th century when they had complete control of all the information that went out into the public sphere? You mean they want to shape public perceptions to benefit themselves? You mean they covet the immense power that their role as information curator provides? Can it be that they resent the growing trend of people turning increasingly to alternative information sources? I’m stunned, nay flabbergasted, that they would ever abuse their power in such a way or *gasp* work with the government to deceive and manipulate the populace. Surely the author must be mistaken. Surely this cannot be. How will our civilization survive without a small, unqualified, and unelected clique of people to decide what is true and what isn’t or what news is worthy of our fragile ears?
It turns out China was right from the beginning. Unregulated Internet was a breeding ground for cynicism and anarchism. The concentration and strength of a state’s capabilities is a sign of the modernization of a state. China is 1800 years ahead of the West in governing the country and its people.
Spoken like a good CCP member.
Spoken like a good CCP member.
It turns out China was right from the beginning. Unregulated Internet was a breeding ground for cynicism and anarchism. The concentration and strength of a state’s capabilities is a sign of the modernization of a state. China is 1800 years ahead of the West in governing the country and its people.
Egads! You mean the establishment media wants to go back to the 20th century when they had complete control of all the information that went out into the public sphere? You mean they want to shape public perceptions to benefit themselves? You mean they covet the immense power that their role as information curator provides? Can it be that they resent the growing trend of people turning increasingly to alternative information sources? I’m stunned, nay flabbergasted, that they would ever abuse their power in such a way or *gasp* work with the government to deceive and manipulate the populace. Surely the author must be mistaken. Surely this cannot be. How will our civilization survive without a small, unqualified, and unelected clique of people to decide what is true and what isn’t or what news is worthy of our fragile ears?
Sorry, but it just doesn’t seem credible that a young weekend soldier would have access to the information that he’s supposed to have leaked.
It smells like a fit up to me.
Sorry, but it just doesn’t seem credible that a young weekend soldier would have access to the information that he’s supposed to have leaked.
It smells like a fit up to me.
The bureaucracy needed to support the Elite has grown like Topsy – very fast and in an uncoordinated way. The bureaucracy is now too big to maintain secrecy or maintain competence so is beginning to rely on authoritarianism to stay in control. You can even make the argument that the bureaucracy is the New Elite, but the Old Elite do not realise this yet. Heaven help us.
The bureaucracy needed to support the Elite has grown like Topsy – very fast and in an uncoordinated way. The bureaucracy is now too big to maintain secrecy or maintain competence so is beginning to rely on authoritarianism to stay in control. You can even make the argument that the bureaucracy is the New Elite, but the Old Elite do not realise this yet. Heaven help us.
According to Google over 1.3 million people in the USA are cleared to Top Secret level. This is only getting worse because as Martin says everything gets evermore overclassified and yet everyone ‘needs’ the access.
Of course 1.3 million people will contain examples of the greedy, the unstable, the offended, the narcissistic, etc. The whole bloated system is unsustainable and guaranteed to leak like a sieve. Unfortunately these leaks can get innocent people killed.
Maintaining an aura of secrecy under such an impossible system in order to pretend their own competence (and as evidence of their own importance) is just another establishment smoke screen.
I self-identify as a person with a Top Secret clearance: please hand over the documents.
I self-identify as a person with a Top Secret clearance: please hand over the documents.
According to Google over 1.3 million people in the USA are cleared to Top Secret level. This is only getting worse because as Martin says everything gets evermore overclassified and yet everyone ‘needs’ the access.
Of course 1.3 million people will contain examples of the greedy, the unstable, the offended, the narcissistic, etc. The whole bloated system is unsustainable and guaranteed to leak like a sieve. Unfortunately these leaks can get innocent people killed.
Maintaining an aura of secrecy under such an impossible system in order to pretend their own competence (and as evidence of their own importance) is just another establishment smoke screen.
I only learned about Martin Gurri last week when I saw his longer interview on Triggernometry. For an old guy, he seems to have his finger on the pulse of the modern world.
I actually feel sorry for Teixeira who leaked the classified documents. He should be punished but he strikes me as very naive. The feds and the military will give him life in prison.
I only learned about Martin Gurri last week when I saw his longer interview on Triggernometry. For an old guy, he seems to have his finger on the pulse of the modern world.
I actually feel sorry for Teixeira who leaked the classified documents. He should be punished but he strikes me as very naive. The feds and the military will give him life in prison.
I found Mr. Gurri’s comments on the younger generation’s perspectives on history and on oaths to be particularly interesting. I am also looking for grounds for optimism and would love to share his optimistic take, but I think he is surprisingly shallow when he says that as long a we aren’t arming ourselves and shooting each other we will be OK. For instance, what if the authoritarians control all messaging and start rounding up dissidents and free thinkers? I don’t think we would be OK in that instance. There are a lot of dangers he seems to dismiss.
I found Mr. Gurri’s comments on the younger generation’s perspectives on history and on oaths to be particularly interesting. I am also looking for grounds for optimism and would love to share his optimistic take, but I think he is surprisingly shallow when he says that as long a we aren’t arming ourselves and shooting each other we will be OK. For instance, what if the authoritarians control all messaging and start rounding up dissidents and free thinkers? I don’t think we would be OK in that instance. There are a lot of dangers he seems to dismiss.
Our Media has had the 20 Century control but they made the mistake that the Bolsheviks’, Fascists, Nazis, and other Communists made, they all sent out Misinformation and Lies into an Era of the 21st Century young people who have no old traditional stability and are more Globalists and self centered.
Our Media has had the 20 Century control but they made the mistake that the Bolsheviks’, Fascists, Nazis, and other Communists made, they all sent out Misinformation and Lies into an Era of the 21st Century young people who have no old traditional stability and are more Globalists and self centered.
Who is approving my comment and why? I thought unherd did not believe in Censorship?
Who is approving my comment and why? I thought unherd did not believe in Censorship?
Now find who Q-Anon is.
‘This “collaboration” was … a case of the media and the political establishment standing “shoulder to shoulder” in the face of a common enemy.’ Do we not sense a problem with this? As in, what we now have is no free mainstream press, but instead, our versions of the Soviet-era Izvestia and Pravda?
I only listened for 20 min. I didn‘t get the topic of this. What is it about?
I only listened for 20 min. I didn‘t get the topic of this. What is it about?