“Toytown revolutionaries” – brilliant! Right up there with “those people whose idea of “being on the left” is to giggle along to Marina Hyde articles” – I’ve forgotten where this came from, but also absolutely spot on!
Jonathan Story
1 year ago
Suddenly turning on the patriotic tap is not credible.
More to the point, it is not possible. Expect some sort of childish demo from those who cannot put the country before their own republican fantasy.
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Steve Elliott
1 year ago
Not having the National Anthem might make Starmer look a little ungrateful since he was knighted by the current monarch.
Roy Mullins
1 year ago
The monarchy is the only thing that has saved our country from fracturing, like some other large countries. If you don’t like our country you won’t like our monarchy. The Labour Party singing the National Anthem will not fool anyone.
Last edited 1 year ago by Roy Mullins
Alphonse Pfarti
1 year ago
“Millions of voters still view the party, not without reason, as being populated by anti-British, “progressive”, citizen-of-the-world types who sneer at any demonstration of patriotic sentiment. This perception is especially prevalent among voters in Labour’s old Red Wall constituencies”
Voters are not perceiving so much as observing what many prominent Labour politicians, activists and supporters actually say. Watching the Queen’s funeral service, my reaction to Liz Truss reading the lesson was one of great relief that it was her standing there rather than Johnson or, perish the thought, Corbyn!
To say that she isn’t the most gifted orator, I thought Liz Truss acquitted herself well.
I did feel a certain level of sympathy with our late Queen – the end was clearly nigh and to have the possibility of your eulogy being delivered by a stuttering, blustering Johnson sounding like a mobile phone on vibrate must have been like the sword of Damocles hovering over you.
Upvote for the splendid depiction of Johnson at the pulpit!
John Dellingby
1 year ago
I’m not saying all republicans are unpatriotic progressive lefties, but almost all (if not all) unpatriotic progressive lefties are republicans. Labour needs more people like Paul Embery in them before they’ll get more small c conservatives like myself in who have become disillusioned with the Tories for more or less ignoring anyone born after 1965.
odd taff
1 year ago
Sir Keeler may regret this particular stunt. I can remember watching the Labour Party singing the Red Flag. When the camera went across the audience it was obvious that many members were not very enthusiastic. This could be a disaster.
Sophy T
1 year ago
I don’t think there are any plans for a referendum on whether to keep the monarchy, so maybe to gauge public feeling the Labour Party should fight the next election on an ‘Abolish the Monarchy’ slogan, just as Boris fought the last election on ‘Get Brexit Done’.
I’m sure Labour would get in with a landslide!
The French, of course, must choose the government they think best. But note that their first republic was founded with great bloodshed and terror in 1792. Their fifth, the current one, dates from 1958. That wasn’t a happy time either.
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Now Madleson is gone, surely no ” God Save The Queen”?
Kevin L
1 year ago
As a matter of policy, I think the Monarchy is corrosive to our democracy. As a matter of politics, I agree that it would be crazy for the Labour Party to appear anything but patriotic if it wants to ever win an election again.
However, Starmer enforcing the singing of the national anthem at the Labour Party conference is sure to backfire. It will inevitably cause the looney left wing to make a big fuss and bring the culture wars to the conference. It would have been far more sensible to stick to tradition and just pretend that it was ever an issue. Now it’s an issue.
Yeah, they should’ve just ignored it! If they sing the anthem it’s going to appear really cheesy and false. The Labour party needs to promote policies that will attract the working class vote, not pandering to the MSM.
Roy Mullins
1 year ago
Unintended duplicate – don’t know how to delete. Sorry
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sean Mahony
1 year ago
It is a step in the right direction. it was not so long ago when they sang the Red Flag, which was their Anthem
Stuart Sutherland
1 year ago
Isn’t it time that a new national anthem was composed! An anthem that represented all the four nations of the UK, and worshipped it’s diverse population rather than an over privileged hereditary monarch.
“Toytown revolutionaries” – brilliant!
Right up there with “those people whose idea of “being on the left” is to giggle along to Marina Hyde articles” – I’ve forgotten where this came from, but also absolutely spot on!
Suddenly turning on the patriotic tap is not credible.
More to the point, it is not possible. Expect some sort of childish demo from those who cannot put the country before their own republican fantasy.
Not having the National Anthem might make Starmer look a little ungrateful since he was knighted by the current monarch.
The monarchy is the only thing that has saved our country from fracturing, like some other large countries. If you don’t like our country you won’t like our monarchy. The Labour Party singing the National Anthem will not fool anyone.
“Millions of voters still view the party, not without reason, as being populated by anti-British, “progressive”, citizen-of-the-world types who sneer at any demonstration of patriotic sentiment. This perception is especially prevalent among voters in Labour’s old Red Wall constituencies”
Voters are not perceiving so much as observing what many prominent Labour politicians, activists and supporters actually say. Watching the Queen’s funeral service, my reaction to Liz Truss reading the lesson was one of great relief that it was her standing there rather than Johnson or, perish the thought, Corbyn!
To say that she isn’t the most gifted orator, I thought Liz Truss acquitted herself well.
I did feel a certain level of sympathy with our late Queen – the end was clearly nigh and to have the possibility of your eulogy being delivered by a stuttering, blustering Johnson sounding like a mobile phone on vibrate must have been like the sword of Damocles hovering over you.
Upvote for the splendid depiction of Johnson at the pulpit!
I’m not saying all republicans are unpatriotic progressive lefties, but almost all (if not all) unpatriotic progressive lefties are republicans. Labour needs more people like Paul Embery in them before they’ll get more small c conservatives like myself in who have become disillusioned with the Tories for more or less ignoring anyone born after 1965.
Sir Keeler may regret this particular stunt. I can remember watching the Labour Party singing the Red Flag. When the camera went across the audience it was obvious that many members were not very enthusiastic. This could be a disaster.
I don’t think there are any plans for a referendum on whether to keep the monarchy, so maybe to gauge public feeling the Labour Party should fight the next election on an ‘Abolish the Monarchy’ slogan, just as Boris fought the last election on ‘Get Brexit Done’.
I’m sure Labour would get in with a landslide!
Tee Hee!
The French, of course, must choose the government they think best. But note that their first republic was founded with great bloodshed and terror in 1792. Their fifth, the current one, dates from 1958. That wasn’t a happy time either.
Now Madleson is gone, surely no ” God Save The Queen”?
As a matter of policy, I think the Monarchy is corrosive to our democracy. As a matter of politics, I agree that it would be crazy for the Labour Party to appear anything but patriotic if it wants to ever win an election again.
However, Starmer enforcing the singing of the national anthem at the Labour Party conference is sure to backfire. It will inevitably cause the looney left wing to make a big fuss and bring the culture wars to the conference. It would have been far more sensible to stick to tradition and just pretend that it was ever an issue. Now it’s an issue.
Yeah, they should’ve just ignored it! If they sing the anthem it’s going to appear really cheesy and false. The Labour party needs to promote policies that will attract the working class vote, not pandering to the MSM.
Unintended duplicate – don’t know how to delete. Sorry
It is a step in the right direction. it was not so long ago when they sang the Red Flag, which was their Anthem
Isn’t it time that a new national anthem was composed! An anthem that represented all the four nations of the UK, and worshipped it’s diverse population rather than an over privileged hereditary monarch.
And one with a decent tune too!