Interesting that Starmer is virtually forced to give Angela Rayner a job of some sort due to her popularity with the Labour grass roots. Down-to-earth egalitarian bluster always plays well with them. In that way she could be seen as the new John Prescott.
Tyler Durden
8 months ago
Some odd party analysis in this new online journal. Lisa N is not really a political personality with enough heft to be a serious leadership contender. She has no clear faction supporting her either.
The key impulse behind Labour is the campaign to try to join the euro again. This is driven by the neoliberal kingmakers who push the party in the media as well as the union barons who would like to see Eurozone alignment keep taxes high, with exponentially greater public spending justified by EU trade benefits.
In that vein, Ms Reeves and Master Streeting are the key Sir Keir competitors- the latter interested in introducing a European social insurance model to re-bankroll the NHS, which should entice Eurozone corporations.
I always thought Nandy one of the best Labour people: pragmatic when that made sense and with enough political nous to use populist rhetoric. Like Starmer and Reeves, she is inclined to say whatever she thinks will get votes. But unlike them, not when it doesn’t make sense, or when it’s a contradiction of an earlier position.
Reeves and Streeting are a pair of wet blankets. But if we must have an NHS, one reform idea that should be considered is a social insurance model, like Germany. This allows people to trade up with cover and ends up with more money going into the system overall. Hence Germany’s far superior diagnostics capacity.
…not unlike the Third Obama Presidency, currently being fronted by Biden. My own prediction is that the incumbent will secure the nomination…and then withdraw through ill-health just as the campaign starts…although I’m not sure how the Democratic National Committee will engineer his replacement by Michelle…those better versed in the details of power-broking amongst the upper reaches of the Democratic Party might be able to advise, though?
Vote anyone, get Blair according to the fascinating (and depressing) long read by Tom McTague on here a few weeks ago…
Dougie Undersub
8 months ago
Nandy is just another untrustworthy politician, happy to talk up Starmer’s policy of building more houses while opposing new housing developments in her own constituency.
Steve Murray
8 months ago
It’s been a long time since a PM entered and left Downing Street via a general election.
Had to think quite a bit about that. It was Harold Wilson, first elected in 1964 (then 1966) before losing in 1970.
Ted Heath? Won the GE in 1970 as Wilson lost. Lost the GE in 1974 as Wilson made a comeback. Admittedly, Heath stubbornly tried to hang on for a few days claiming the election result was not decisive but it was the GE that finished him and opened the way for Thatcher.
Heath didn’t claim the Feb 74 election wasn’t decisive and misleading to use that phrase. No, instead he sought to put together a coalition with the Liberals and thus did not immediately go to the Palace to resign. When that failed he went and resigned and advised the Queen to send for Wilson. Not dissimilar happened for a day or two in 2010.
Further on the ‘decisiveness’ point – in Feb 74 Tories got slightly more votes but less seats. The reverse had happened in 51 with Labour getting more votes but less seats. Neither triggered a Constitutional crisis. What might have happened had we had a Trump type politician God only knows.
Just correcting an important fact before you get stuck with a false narrative of a conspiratorial nature Sats. These things can affect how folks think if details not explained. Always happy to help you.
And he couldn’t form a Govt with the number of seats he’d won, so essentially rejected by the electorate. But he won, as did Atlee in 51, the overall popular Vote.
Heath’s Conservative Party got less seats than Labour but more votes (250,000?). Heat won 1970 Election as the Conservative and Unionist (Ulster) Party, if the Unionists had not split away from the Conservatives Heath would have won. There would then have been no Margaret Thatcher as leader and PM!
j watson
8 months ago
What leader doesn’t generate some disgruntlement when reshuffling, or opting not to reshuffle? When you think about it being the Leader, in power or opposition, requires you keep so many plates spinning at the same time it’s a wonder more don’t smash.
As reshuffles go this one has the politico’s struggling a bit for a story. Nandy is not a big player and also sensible enough to know unity at the moment crucial.
Simon Neale
8 months ago
Moving her now seems like a plan to stop her being a big hitter in a future cabinet.
Or, of course, a recognition that she’s not ever going to be a “big hitter” in the way that Starmer wants.
Simon Blanchard
8 months ago
Unless they’ve done a deal?
James Kirk
8 months ago
I don’t think she’s that popular in her home constituency. She’s not a looker is she?
Interesting that Starmer is virtually forced to give Angela Rayner a job of some sort due to her popularity with the Labour grass roots. Down-to-earth egalitarian bluster always plays well with them. In that way she could be seen as the new John Prescott.
Some odd party analysis in this new online journal. Lisa N is not really a political personality with enough heft to be a serious leadership contender. She has no clear faction supporting her either.
The key impulse behind Labour is the campaign to try to join the euro again. This is driven by the neoliberal kingmakers who push the party in the media as well as the union barons who would like to see Eurozone alignment keep taxes high, with exponentially greater public spending justified by EU trade benefits.
In that vein, Ms Reeves and Master Streeting are the key Sir Keir competitors- the latter interested in introducing a European social insurance model to re-bankroll the NHS, which should entice Eurozone corporations.
I always thought Nandy one of the best Labour people: pragmatic when that made sense and with enough political nous to use populist rhetoric. Like Starmer and Reeves, she is inclined to say whatever she thinks will get votes. But unlike them, not when it doesn’t make sense, or when it’s a contradiction of an earlier position.
Reeves and Streeting are a pair of wet blankets. But if we must have an NHS, one reform idea that should be considered is a social insurance model, like Germany. This allows people to trade up with cover and ends up with more money going into the system overall. Hence Germany’s far superior diagnostics capacity.
Vote Starmer, get Blair.
Yep – Blair and Mandelson are actively getting Labour elected again.
…not unlike the Third Obama Presidency, currently being fronted by Biden. My own prediction is that the incumbent will secure the nomination…and then withdraw through ill-health just as the campaign starts…although I’m not sure how the Democratic National Committee will engineer his replacement by Michelle…those better versed in the details of power-broking amongst the upper reaches of the Democratic Party might be able to advise, though?
Vote anyone, get Blair according to the fascinating (and depressing) long read by Tom McTague on here a few weeks ago…
Nandy is just another untrustworthy politician, happy to talk up Starmer’s policy of building more houses while opposing new housing developments in her own constituency.
It’s been a long time since a PM entered and left Downing Street via a general election.
Had to think quite a bit about that. It was Harold Wilson, first elected in 1964 (then 1966) before losing in 1970.
Ted Heath? Won the GE in 1970 as Wilson lost. Lost the GE in 1974 as Wilson made a comeback. Admittedly, Heath stubbornly tried to hang on for a few days claiming the election result was not decisive but it was the GE that finished him and opened the way for Thatcher.
Possibly, but i’d be inclined to interpret a clear majority defeat as being voted out of office.
Heath didn’t claim the Feb 74 election wasn’t decisive and misleading to use that phrase. No, instead he sought to put together a coalition with the Liberals and thus did not immediately go to the Palace to resign. When that failed he went and resigned and advised the Queen to send for Wilson. Not dissimilar happened for a day or two in 2010.
Further on the ‘decisiveness’ point – in Feb 74 Tories got slightly more votes but less seats. The reverse had happened in 51 with Labour getting more votes but less seats. Neither triggered a Constitutional crisis. What might have happened had we had a Trump type politician God only knows.
But aside from that rather nerdy rigmarole did he get voted out of office by the electorate or not?
Just correcting an important fact before you get stuck with a false narrative of a conspiratorial nature Sats. These things can affect how folks think if details not explained. Always happy to help you.
And he couldn’t form a Govt with the number of seats he’d won, so essentially rejected by the electorate. But he won, as did Atlee in 51, the overall popular Vote.
“narrative of a conspiratorial nature”?! Come off it watson.
Heath’s Conservative Party got less seats than Labour but more votes (250,000?). Heat won 1970 Election as the Conservative and Unionist (Ulster) Party, if the Unionists had not split away from the Conservatives Heath would have won. There would then have been no Margaret Thatcher as leader and PM!
What leader doesn’t generate some disgruntlement when reshuffling, or opting not to reshuffle? When you think about it being the Leader, in power or opposition, requires you keep so many plates spinning at the same time it’s a wonder more don’t smash.
As reshuffles go this one has the politico’s struggling a bit for a story. Nandy is not a big player and also sensible enough to know unity at the moment crucial.
Or, of course, a recognition that she’s not ever going to be a “big hitter” in the way that Starmer wants.
Unless they’ve done a deal?
I don’t think she’s that popular in her home constituency. She’s not a looker is she?