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Zak Orn
Zak Orn
1 year ago

While the Labour party is so enthralled to identity politics I doubt they have a clear enough head to make any positive improvements to the economy. With people like Dodds in the cabinet who appears to be openly proposing wealth redistribution based on race it looks like the journey to clown town will only accelerate under Labour.

Last edited 1 year ago by Zak Orn
Zak Orn
Zak Orn
1 year ago

While the Labour party is so enthralled to identity politics I doubt they have a clear enough head to make any positive improvements to the economy. With people like Dodds in the cabinet who appears to be openly proposing wealth redistribution based on race it looks like the journey to clown town will only accelerate under Labour.

Last edited 1 year ago by Zak Orn
Ben Jones
Ben Jones
1 year ago

Basically, Starmer wants us to be Germany, but without the bits that work.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  Ben Jones

Surprising how utterly irrelevant to the country’s needs both Starmer and Sunak’s ideas are, isn’t it?

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Reply to  Ben Jones

Frightful, tedious little jumped up lower middle class clerk…

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher
1 year ago

Is there something wrong with being lower middle class?

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher
1 year ago

Is there something wrong with being lower middle class?

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  Ben Jones

Surprising how utterly irrelevant to the country’s needs both Starmer and Sunak’s ideas are, isn’t it?

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Reply to  Ben Jones

Frightful, tedious little jumped up lower middle class clerk…

Ben Jones
Ben Jones
1 year ago

Basically, Starmer wants us to be Germany, but without the bits that work.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago

“What matters now for Labour is not its rhetoric, but whether or not it does the heavy lifting of collective intellectual and political thinking, and policy development, necessary for breaking out of this interregnum.”
Party political puff piece. Labour is as dead as the Tory Party. It is only rigor mortis that keeps it upright.

Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

It’s just words. More and more empty words.
“shaping a Labour narrative of national renewal”
“local community wealth-building”
What do these things actually mean ? How could you test if they have been achieved ? It’s just like the Ed Stone – a hopeful wish list of things that cannot be measured.
“heavy lifting of collective intellectual and political thinking, and policy development”
Who on the Labour front bench does heavy intellectual thinking ?
And you’re right – they’ve had 12 years in opposition to do this stuff – it’s a bit late in the day to be hacking together some policies.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter B

Yes. I think it was written by ChatGPT under the instruction ‘write a review of Keir Starmer’s latest speech in the style of a Department of Health press release’.

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Nice one. Perhaps Kier Starmer used ChatGPT to write his speech.

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Nice one. Perhaps Kier Starmer used ChatGPT to write his speech.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter B

Yes. I think it was written by ChatGPT under the instruction ‘write a review of Keir Starmer’s latest speech in the style of a Department of Health press release’.

Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

It’s just words. More and more empty words.
“shaping a Labour narrative of national renewal”
“local community wealth-building”
What do these things actually mean ? How could you test if they have been achieved ? It’s just like the Ed Stone – a hopeful wish list of things that cannot be measured.
“heavy lifting of collective intellectual and political thinking, and policy development”
Who on the Labour front bench does heavy intellectual thinking ?
And you’re right – they’ve had 12 years in opposition to do this stuff – it’s a bit late in the day to be hacking together some policies.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago

“What matters now for Labour is not its rhetoric, but whether or not it does the heavy lifting of collective intellectual and political thinking, and policy development, necessary for breaking out of this interregnum.”
Party political puff piece. Labour is as dead as the Tory Party. It is only rigor mortis that keeps it upright.

Dog Eared
Dog Eared
1 year ago

Starmer is as slippery as an eel dipped in WD40

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  Dog Eared

What’s really scary, though, is: “Lisa Nandy, Shadow Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities, has been shaping a Labour narrative of national renewal”. God help us.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  Dog Eared

What’s really scary, though, is: “Lisa Nandy, Shadow Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities, has been shaping a Labour narrative of national renewal”. God help us.

Dog Eared
Dog Eared
1 year ago

Starmer is as slippery as an eel dipped in WD40

Mark Burton
Mark Burton
1 year ago

Someone who dodges questions on what a real woman is, I wouldn’t trust with a teabag let alone the reins of the country

Mark Burton
Mark Burton
1 year ago

Someone who dodges questions on what a real woman is, I wouldn’t trust with a teabag let alone the reins of the country

Pete Marsh
Pete Marsh
1 year ago

It’s guaranteed that the result will be at least one extra layer of politicians feeding off the taxpayer. Probably more, and a host of quangos.

Pete Marsh
Pete Marsh
1 year ago

It’s guaranteed that the result will be at least one extra layer of politicians feeding off the taxpayer. Probably more, and a host of quangos.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago

Hopeless. Local government officials are even less competent than central government officials, if my local Council is any guide. Good luck with your energy policy, Sir Keir: which local community is going to volunteer to have a power station or wind farm in its midst?

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago

Hopeless. Local government officials are even less competent than central government officials, if my local Council is any guide. Good luck with your energy policy, Sir Keir: which local community is going to volunteer to have a power station or wind farm in its midst?

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago

One of the points of this is to get rid of the House of Lords which would be replaced by an elected second chamber. I don’t understand how this would work but it seems like it would be a bit like the US where you have the house of representatives (house of commons) and a senate (which would be the new second chamber). The second chamber would consist of ‘senators’ from the various regional assemblies elected by proportional representation – I suppose, I’m just guessing. But with two elected chambers wouldn’t you end up with a kind of governmental paralysis? And wouldn’t everyone just blame everyone else when things go wrong. We already see that with the Wales and Scotland blaming Westminster for their ills.
I feel that devolution has been a bad thing and more devolution will be worse.

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago

One of the points of this is to get rid of the House of Lords which would be replaced by an elected second chamber. I don’t understand how this would work but it seems like it would be a bit like the US where you have the house of representatives (house of commons) and a senate (which would be the new second chamber). The second chamber would consist of ‘senators’ from the various regional assemblies elected by proportional representation – I suppose, I’m just guessing. But with two elected chambers wouldn’t you end up with a kind of governmental paralysis? And wouldn’t everyone just blame everyone else when things go wrong. We already see that with the Wales and Scotland blaming Westminster for their ills.
I feel that devolution has been a bad thing and more devolution will be worse.

Keith Darlington
Keith Darlington
1 year ago

Starmer’s speech was full of vague platitudes. For example, he wants to hand over powers to local communities but says little regarding how this will be done. Local governments have been gradually starved of funds from both the Tories and Labour for over 30 years. Giving powers to health trusts seems unlikely to help if they haven’t got the funds to pay nurses a wage commensurate with the cost of living increases. Ultimately, the central government hands out the money. But both main parties oppose above-inflation pay rises and both parties support the Brexit settlement that is causing staff shortages and helping cause a crisis in the NHS.

He is right in saying that Westminster politics is broken but he is very much part of that Westminster machine and even opposes changes to the FPTP antiquated voting system. What we desperately need is fresh thinking in UK politics and we are not going to get much of that with the dysfunctional duopoly caused by FPTP. The Tories are failing us but I have little confidence in Starmer offering anything better from what has been said in this speech.

Last edited 1 year ago by Keith Darlington
Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Starmer’s great virtue is his transparency ie: you can see right through him.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Starmer’s great virtue is his transparency ie: you can see right through him.

Keith Darlington
Keith Darlington
1 year ago

Starmer’s speech was full of vague platitudes. For example, he wants to hand over powers to local communities but says little regarding how this will be done. Local governments have been gradually starved of funds from both the Tories and Labour for over 30 years. Giving powers to health trusts seems unlikely to help if they haven’t got the funds to pay nurses a wage commensurate with the cost of living increases. Ultimately, the central government hands out the money. But both main parties oppose above-inflation pay rises and both parties support the Brexit settlement that is causing staff shortages and helping cause a crisis in the NHS.

He is right in saying that Westminster politics is broken but he is very much part of that Westminster machine and even opposes changes to the FPTP antiquated voting system. What we desperately need is fresh thinking in UK politics and we are not going to get much of that with the dysfunctional duopoly caused by FPTP. The Tories are failing us but I have little confidence in Starmer offering anything better from what has been said in this speech.

Last edited 1 year ago by Keith Darlington
Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

For devolution to work you need to devolve tax collection as well as administrative function, otherwise no-one will pay attention to what the local bureaucrats are up to until it’s too late. Local taxation will stimulate wider participation in local politics and enhance accountability.
It seems unlikely that this is what Starmer has in mind. He’s much more likely to be planning the next stage in the Blairite plan to colonise every public institution with Labour placemen.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

For devolution to work you need to devolve tax collection as well as administrative function, otherwise no-one will pay attention to what the local bureaucrats are up to until it’s too late. Local taxation will stimulate wider participation in local politics and enhance accountability.
It seems unlikely that this is what Starmer has in mind. He’s much more likely to be planning the next stage in the Blairite plan to colonise every public institution with Labour placemen.

frankfrank.teague
frankfrank.teague
1 year ago

Get elected this time,that is the goal and in my opinion the only goal.

Last edited 1 year ago by frankfrank.teague
frankfrank.teague
frankfrank.teague
1 year ago

Get elected this time,that is the goal and in my opinion the only goal.

Last edited 1 year ago by frankfrank.teague
Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Ahh… Starmer, please bring the port decanter, and make sure that the keeper has all the beaters ready for 9….

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Ahh… Starmer, please bring the port decanter, and make sure that the keeper has all the beaters ready for 9….