Much as its regrettable that anyone gets stick online, I’m afraid that this is a classic example of different groups of lefties fighting each other. Which i find difficult to get upset about.
Type 1 Lefty – Middle aged lefties who think Britain is racist and encourage kids to see themselves as victims because of British society (really meaning conservatives and the white working class)
Type 2 Lefty – Millennial lefties who think that Britain is racist and encourage kids to see themselves as victims because of middle-aged lefties stereotyping them!
Pretty much. I care little for internecine warfare between liberals and progressive liberals. As far as I am concerned one is merely the progeny of the other.
What’s her politics got to do with it? She’s clearly been greatly wronged. She isn’t fighting anyone, just explaining what has been happening from her point of view, almost reluctantly
Well for a start our immigration laws don’t disadvantage immigrant kids as she says (quite the opposite) and you shouldn’t encourage kids to explore and develop their Irish or Somalian identities as she says in the interview. You should teach them to be British and proud.
But I agree she has been wronged by her publisher and I’m sorry for that. She should have some kind of recourse.
I spent 4 years in Spain and I tried very hard to learn the language. Great country, loved it there. I also spent 3 years in Italy, also worked hard at learning the language. Also a great country.
I’m going to watch this tomorrow when I have a chance, but as I need a trigger warning about such things, does she bother to elaborate on that assertion?
I’m guessing not from your tone.
What has happened to her is wrong, but I do get the sensation this is woke on woke fire.
“Well for a start our immigration laws don’t disadvantage immigrant kids” Open borders are what disadvantage immigrant kids. If you’re at the bottom of the economic pile, as immigrants tend to be, you’re more vulnerable to the downward pressure exerted on wages by continuous mass immigration. Rational immigrants support immigration controls.
Yes. I was surprised to hear that from groups of Sihks in several factories in the Black Country way back in the 90s. Many of whom were probably supporters of Enoch Powell. For those not aquainted with the geography of the UK the “Black Country” is the area around Birmingham and Wolverhampton in the English Midlands – a name given to the area that was in the forefront of the Industrial Revolution and caused by the smoke from hundreds of poorly designed factories
I’m not sure if it’s true that immigrants tend to be at the bottom of the economic pile. I’ve heard of professionals who have been uprooted because of war. Are there statistics on this anywhere?
Professionals uprooted because of war often end up working as e.g. cabbies in the countries they migrate to. Even those not uprooted by war often find themselves having to take lower-status and less well-paid jobs. The barman in my local a couple of years back was a Spanish engineer.
I think the kids can explore their heritage and be proud of it and they can also at the same time be encouraged to regard themselves as British and be proud of that too.
‘We contain multitudes.’
“She is’nt fighting anyone.”
If she had fought instead of abjectly apologising she might not be feeling as if her life’s work has been taken away from her now. Sometimes you have to fight.
I realise though that the online attacks came on top of her bereavements. She had a particularly difficult year by the sound of it. I hope she’ll recover and do good work again.
I suspect she hoped apologising would diffuse the situation. I think you could be right about fighting. She is resilient, but I guess not a fighter
Lesley van Reenen
2 years ago
‘exocitising and commodifiying’…. The dictionary of the Woke is making me increasingly at different times critical, angry, scathing, exhausted and I will admit it, giggly (well huge guffaws of laughter).
“Exoticising and Commodifying” might well describe many an immigrant’s expectations/illusions about level and nature of equal opportunities that British society offers all its citizens. Any disappointment on that score doesn’t necessarily make one any more a victim than the reasons for leaving country of origin.
Drahcir Nevarc
2 years ago
You must absolutely never apologise to the woke scum. You have to do the opposite. The only way to deal with them is to tell them very bluntly to far cough.
Absolutely, never apologize to Twitter scum. Attack them as bullies at least.
Joe Donovan
2 years ago
This is deeply upsetting. And the people who are ruining this woman are quite self satisfied because they consider themselves to be champions of some kind of “justice.”
Katharine Eyre
2 years ago
Very interesting interview. Ms. Clanchy seems like a highly decent person and I’m sorry that she is the latest to get caught up in the woke madness. I’m in a state of disbelief at how things like this can happen.
I wish Ms. Clanchy all the best.
It’s surprising how few here show any empathy or sympathy. Actually, I’m more sad than surprised
Maighread G
2 years ago
Wonderful Interview.
Kate is so right; ‘there are real things in the world’, real causes worth getting riled up about. Such a pity so many are wasting their energy taking offence and participating in Twitter pile-ons.
And Freddy is spot on when he says we are living in strange times when such a gentle, thoughtful and intelligent person is considered ‘a menace to society.’
James Joyce
2 years ago
Let’s not shed any tears for this vile woman, who represents so much of what I hate–particularly her love for multiculturalism and her disdain for her country. This is why London is no longer an English or even a British city, and why the UK is unrecognizable except as a cesspool of a failed UN project.
I celebrate her demise, and lament that she ever rose as high as she did because of her gentle wokeness. Don’t mistake her friendly demeanor and soft-spokeness for reasonable positions; she is as disgustingly woke as they come. Much as I enjoy the left tearing each other apart, I do not believe that one should be censored or cancelled because of one’s political beliefs, even if, as here, her views are anathema to my own. She has been treated shabbily by her publisher and should seek redress.
Her gentle wokeness did not save her from the woke mob, nor should it. She should not have a platform to celebrate multiculturalism, so in that sense, good riddance! Is it ironic that she was cancelled by the very people she attempted to elevate her entire career?
From what you say seems you should well know what you are talking about. Coming from the USA though, I can’t tell whether you are a First Nation descendant or God only knows what cultural mixture.
Much as its regrettable that anyone gets stick online, I’m afraid that this is a classic example of different groups of lefties fighting each other. Which i find difficult to get upset about.
Type 1 Lefty – Middle aged lefties who think Britain is racist and encourage kids to see themselves as victims because of British society (really meaning conservatives and the white working class)
Type 2 Lefty – Millennial lefties who think that Britain is racist and encourage kids to see themselves as victims because of middle-aged lefties stereotyping them!
Pretty much. I care little for internecine warfare between liberals and progressive liberals. As far as I am concerned one is merely the progeny of the other.
What’s her politics got to do with it? She’s clearly been greatly wronged. She isn’t fighting anyone, just explaining what has been happening from her point of view, almost reluctantly
Well for a start our immigration laws don’t disadvantage immigrant kids as she says (quite the opposite) and you shouldn’t encourage kids to explore and develop their Irish or Somalian identities as she says in the interview. You should teach them to be British and proud.
But I agree she has been wronged by her publisher and I’m sorry for that. She should have some kind of recourse.
So the British who form colonies in Spain should learn to be Spanish and proud?
Some could write poetry in English when it wasn’t their first language.
She said “they want to fit in and be accepted”
“So the British who form colonies in Spain…..” They should at least learn to speak one of the languages of Spain – Many do not.
I spent 4 years in Spain and I tried very hard to learn the language. Great country, loved it there. I also spent 3 years in Italy, also worked hard at learning the language. Also a great country.
I agree, and I think her pupils did that
I’m going to watch this tomorrow when I have a chance, but as I need a trigger warning about such things, does she bother to elaborate on that assertion?
I’m guessing not from your tone.
What has happened to her is wrong, but I do get the sensation this is woke on woke fire.
“Well for a start our immigration laws don’t disadvantage immigrant kids”
Open borders are what disadvantage immigrant kids. If you’re at the bottom of the economic pile, as immigrants tend to be, you’re more vulnerable to the downward pressure exerted on wages by continuous mass immigration. Rational immigrants support immigration controls.
Yes. I was surprised to hear that from groups of Sihks in several factories in the Black Country way back in the 90s. Many of whom were probably supporters of Enoch Powell. For those not aquainted with the geography of the UK the “Black Country” is the area around Birmingham and Wolverhampton in the English Midlands – a name given to the area that was in the forefront of the Industrial Revolution and caused by the smoke from hundreds of poorly designed factories
I’m not sure if it’s true that immigrants tend to be at the bottom of the economic pile. I’ve heard of professionals who have been uprooted because of war. Are there statistics on this anywhere?
Professionals uprooted because of war often end up working as e.g. cabbies in the countries they migrate to. Even those not uprooted by war often find themselves having to take lower-status and less well-paid jobs. The barman in my local a couple of years back was a Spanish engineer.
I think the kids can explore their heritage and be proud of it and they can also at the same time be encouraged to regard themselves as British and be proud of that too.
‘We contain multitudes.’
“She is’nt fighting anyone.”
If she had fought instead of abjectly apologising she might not be feeling as if her life’s work has been taken away from her now. Sometimes you have to fight.
I realise though that the online attacks came on top of her bereavements. She had a particularly difficult year by the sound of it. I hope she’ll recover and do good work again.
I suspect she hoped apologising would diffuse the situation. I think you could be right about fighting. She is resilient, but I guess not a fighter
‘exocitising and commodifiying’…. The dictionary of the Woke is making me increasingly at different times critical, angry, scathing, exhausted and I will admit it, giggly (well huge guffaws of laughter).
“Exoticising and Commodifying” might well describe many an immigrant’s expectations/illusions about level and nature of equal opportunities that British society offers all its citizens. Any disappointment on that score doesn’t necessarily make one any more a victim than the reasons for leaving country of origin.
You must absolutely never apologise to the woke scum. You have to do the opposite. The only way to deal with them is to tell them very bluntly to far cough.
Absolutely, never apologize to Twitter scum. Attack them as bullies at least.
This is deeply upsetting. And the people who are ruining this woman are quite self satisfied because they consider themselves to be champions of some kind of “justice.”
Very interesting interview. Ms. Clanchy seems like a highly decent person and I’m sorry that she is the latest to get caught up in the woke madness. I’m in a state of disbelief at how things like this can happen.
I wish Ms. Clanchy all the best.
It’s surprising how few here show any empathy or sympathy. Actually, I’m more sad than surprised
Wonderful Interview.
Kate is so right; ‘there are real things in the world’, real causes worth getting riled up about. Such a pity so many are wasting their energy taking offence and participating in Twitter pile-ons.
And Freddy is spot on when he says we are living in strange times when such a gentle, thoughtful and intelligent person is considered ‘a menace to society.’
Let’s not shed any tears for this vile woman, who represents so much of what I hate–particularly her love for multiculturalism and her disdain for her country. This is why London is no longer an English or even a British city, and why the UK is unrecognizable except as a cesspool of a failed UN project.
I celebrate her demise, and lament that she ever rose as high as she did because of her gentle wokeness. Don’t mistake her friendly demeanor and soft-spokeness for reasonable positions; she is as disgustingly woke as they come. Much as I enjoy the left tearing each other apart, I do not believe that one should be censored or cancelled because of one’s political beliefs, even if, as here, her views are anathema to my own. She has been treated shabbily by her publisher and should seek redress.
Her gentle wokeness did not save her from the woke mob, nor should it. She should not have a platform to celebrate multiculturalism, so in that sense, good riddance! Is it ironic that she was cancelled by the very people she attempted to elevate her entire career?
Multiculturalism will be the death of England, Canada and my own country, the US.
From what you say seems you should well know what you are talking about. Coming from the USA though, I can’t tell whether you are a First Nation descendant or God only knows what cultural mixture.
Your point?