I can’t see why Italy should stop trading with Russia. Germany would jump in to take the business if it could.
Jon Hawksley
2 years ago
The egos of political leaders can cause wars accidentally. So can incompetence. So can miss-communication. Putin has unfinished business in Ukraine/Crimea and it needs to be talked through pragmatically for the best interest of the populations, not the politicians. Posturing and “high moral ground” do not help. An article on the lost skill of diplomacy would be interesting.
Explain how we can engage in diplomacy with an imperialist who has presented demands he knew couldn’t be entertained that the Soviet empire be reinstated? He doesn’t want to engage in diplomacy and made that clear.
IF we appease him over Ukraine the we’ll be appeasing him over the Swalki gap or Estonia next..then all the Baltic states, then Poland…and then Bugaria and Rumania may start wondering what the actual point of the EU is.
Bring price of oil down to $20 barrel for next four years and develop Shale Oil and Gas in Europe and LFT Nuclear Reactors. If the USA develops Shale oil and gas to full capacity and builds required piplines, oil at $20/basrrel can be achieved. Bankrupt Russia.
Ian Stewart
2 years ago
No surprise that the gangsters running much of Italian commerce want to be close to the gangsters running Russia.
I presume you also support banning The City in London from dealing with Russian wealth.
Ted Ditchburn
2 years ago
In this country the FBPE crowd obsess about how evil Boris’s lying Brexit was a hammer blow to the glorious ideals of an ever more united Europe.
The person who has most gain from a disintegrating EU is Putin, and he knows how to pick apart the threads without anyone in Brussels even noticing enough to oppose him…the first they’ll know the moth has been in is when two more sleeves fall off their jacket…the EU is splitting, from the Anglosphere, and internally, because the appeased have become appeasers.
Matt M
2 years ago
Wasn’t there some tie up years ago between Fiat and the Soviets via the commie unions? Think I saw it on Top Gear!
Italy bought Russian steel scrap in the 1970s which resulted in massive ruist problems for their cars.
The Euro was supportd by German car companies to stop Italy devaluing the Lira which benefited the top end Italian car companies. I expect contacts with Russia is way of Italian companies getting their own back on the Germany.
Brooke Walford
2 years ago
Does “forging their own diplomacy” mean saying nothing critical and hoping business between the two countries can continue as normal?
I can’t see why Italy should stop trading with Russia. Germany would jump in to take the business if it could.
The egos of political leaders can cause wars accidentally. So can incompetence. So can miss-communication. Putin has unfinished business in Ukraine/Crimea and it needs to be talked through pragmatically for the best interest of the populations, not the politicians. Posturing and “high moral ground” do not help. An article on the lost skill of diplomacy would be interesting.
Explain how we can engage in diplomacy with an imperialist who has presented demands he knew couldn’t be entertained that the Soviet empire be reinstated? He doesn’t want to engage in diplomacy and made that clear.
IF we appease him over Ukraine the we’ll be appeasing him over the Swalki gap or Estonia next..then all the Baltic states, then Poland…and then Bugaria and Rumania may start wondering what the actual point of the EU is.
I don’t think there is any evidence for this. Russia trades with these countries and has no reason to be belligerent towards them.
Bring price of oil down to $20 barrel for next four years and develop Shale Oil and Gas in Europe and LFT Nuclear Reactors. If the USA develops Shale oil and gas to full capacity and builds required piplines, oil at $20/basrrel can be achieved. Bankrupt Russia.
No surprise that the gangsters running much of Italian commerce want to be close to the gangsters running Russia.
I presume you also support banning The City in London from dealing with Russian wealth.
In this country the FBPE crowd obsess about how evil Boris’s lying Brexit was a hammer blow to the glorious ideals of an ever more united Europe.
The person who has most gain from a disintegrating EU is Putin, and he knows how to pick apart the threads without anyone in Brussels even noticing enough to oppose him…the first they’ll know the moth has been in is when two more sleeves fall off their jacket…the EU is splitting, from the Anglosphere, and internally, because the appeased have become appeasers.
Wasn’t there some tie up years ago between Fiat and the Soviets via the commie unions? Think I saw it on Top Gear!
Italy bought Russian steel scrap in the 1970s which resulted in massive ruist problems for their cars.
The Euro was supportd by German car companies to stop Italy devaluing the Lira which benefited the top end Italian car companies. I expect contacts with Russia is way of Italian companies getting their own back on the Germany.
Does “forging their own diplomacy” mean saying nothing critical and hoping business between the two countries can continue as normal?