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Chris Mochan
Chris Mochan
2 years ago

Stable democracy grows out of established traditions and trusted institutions and the attempt to impose democracy in their absence is doomed to failure. Democracy itself isn’t the cause of stability in a democratic state, it is an outcome of having a robust civil society and trust in things like constitution, government and law. Iraq should have taught us that giving everyone a vote is not necessarily conducive to a functioning state.

David George
David George
2 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mochan

“robust civil society and trust in things like constitution, government and law.”
Exactly Chris, democracy doesn’t just arise out of nothing.
Here’s a very good essay on the situation in South Africa. Their institutions are collapsing, becoming corrupt and characterised by a will to power. Democratic in name only?
https://quillette.com/2022/02/04/going-south-life-at-the-worlds-most-progressive-university/

hayden eastwood
hayden eastwood
2 years ago
Reply to  David George

It reminds me of my own very depressing time at UCT in 2009-2010. After 1 year there working in research, I was ready to go back to Zimbabwe and take my chances with the war veterans (who I still regard as preferable and far more reasonable and eloquent than any UCT activist).

hayden eastwood
hayden eastwood
2 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mochan

I would add to your observation that democracy is founded in the basic values and beliefs of the people that build the institutions and the constitutions to begin with. It requires a kind of group consciousness to produce functioning systems, where the average person must believe in the system.
As one supreme caught judge in the US once memorably wrote: “The rule of law comes not from the pen, but from the heart.”
In line with the above, my own observation of Southern Africa is that colonialism failed because it didn’t get the colonised to think like the coloniser. In the absence of colonisers, such places quickly reverted to their previous social and political structures.
South Africa is just a normal example, with 350 years of institutions unravelling to leave what was there previously.
This is hastened by a particular brand of iconoclastic leftwing thinking, which is particularly explosive in South Africa. It combines racial hatred with class warfare, to produce sound and fury, signifying…nothing.

Julian Pellatt
Julian Pellatt
2 years ago

Well said, Hayden!

Mike Bell
Mike Bell
2 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mochan

Democracy itself isn’t the cause of stability in a democratic state, it is an outcome of having a robust civil society and trust in things like constitution, government and law.
Well said.
Also, the form of democracy we have in the West may well be dependent on the level of wealth and equity.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
2 years ago

A continent that is 2000 years behind anywhere else on our planet .. that is the problem… the next problem is the fear of finger pointing ” racism” accusations for declaring this empirical fact, let alone trying to do anything about it

Julian Pellatt
Julian Pellatt
2 years ago

Democracy cannot be imposed upon societies and nations that have never previously had any experience of such a system of governance. Our western democracy was forged through several millennia of fraught civil evolution, culminating in the Christian era that underpinned the value systems, political organisation and cultural development of Western Europe. Over the same period other cultures and societies developed alternative systems that bore no resemblance to democracy. Democratic imperialism has been a disaster for this reason alone. Africa is perhaps the most stark illustration of this fact; but contemplate nations around the world (South America, Middle East, Asia) in which democracy is absent.
It seems that our Era of Democracy may be in its final stages as the tide of wokery drowns two thousand years of cultural evolution and new systems are imposed through a framework of brutal intolerance, cynical untruths, destruction of a hated heritage and punitive orthodoxy.

hayden eastwood
hayden eastwood
2 years ago
Reply to  Julian Pellatt

Amen Julian!

ralph bell
ralph bell
2 years ago

Fascinating but depressing article. It’s interesting that they are reflecting on democracy as the best model for their culture/communities/countries.

John Hicks
John Hicks
2 years ago

People of former colonies, many with manufactured borders, often have democratic traditions of their own that are unable to be expressed as a national identity. They are prevented these expressions by adolescents with guns and uniforms enjoying their emotional development as comic book Heroes to satisfy child-like needs. A vision of Governance capable of identifying and supporting self-governing regions with coherent cultural structures of their own, may not include western style democracy. It may include traditions and a rule of law local citizens would be prepared to fight for. Funds and resources currently managing the “running away to Europe” program may be usefully applied supporting African homegrown schemes to counter this age of coups by the kids. Suspect it will take a while, but surely must start regardless of western perceptions of democracy. A continent with indulged adolescents in charge just can not be tolerated in this 21st Century.

Mike Bell
Mike Bell
2 years ago

Once again, Aris, you hit the nail on the head.
The media mostly report the Sahel insurgencies as if they were spontaneous and local. Understanding the Tuareg link and the Libyan weapons is vital.
As I understand it, Qaddafi used the Tuareg as his personal guard as he could not trust locals! When he fell, they ran, taking the weapons with them.
As we saw with the Sunni in Iraq, it does not take much to radicalise those with a grievance who have the weapons and training.