It always slightly baffles me that those claiming to represent the Jewish community seem to instinctively lash out when terms like this are used, which ends up feeding the very conspiracy theories they are subject to. If you want to avoid giving the impression that a Jewish cabal runs the planet from a space station shaped like the star of David, demonstrating your ability to criticise and censor people at a whim for using ‘dog whistles’ is not the best way to do it.
chris Barton
1 year ago
These useful plebs are always on hand to deflect from the fact organisations like the WEF, IMF and UN are clearly up to something.
Barry Murphy
1 year ago
No, it’s not. And anone who says that it is is just trying to shut down debate about globalism.
Richard Barrett
1 year ago
I agree, and the left should not be shy of using this term. 20 years ago, much of the left was engaged in anti-globalization agitation, but now that term has fallen into disuse, and much of the left has since fallen into the neoliberal trap of regarding anti-globalism as “far right.” This is a serious mistake.
B Stern
1 year ago
Yoram Hazony knows very well that “globalist” is used by SOME people as an anti-semitic term. A bit of googling reveals a twitter thread of his from 2018 where he clearly knows that SOME people use “globalist, nationalist and Anglo-American” as dog whistles. Hazony also clearly doesn’t like this because he feels that his area of expertise is being infringed upon because these terms have what he feels are precise meanings that are being infringed upon when globalist is used in an anti-semitic manner.
Hazony is being disingenuous when he says rather blithely No, Not at all, globalist isn’t an anti-semitic term, when he knows quite well that SOME people use it in that way.
You’re right, he does. He probably also knows that acknowledging them and refusing to use the word empowers them while diminishing our understanding of the world by restricting our language. This is exactly why we shouldn’t listen to cancel culture either. The proper thing to do is not to empower these people, but to ignore them.
Why would the term ‘globalist’ be used in the way you describe?
Arnold Grutt
1 year ago
On the point of ‘globalism’ being anti-semitic, the Roman Catholic (‘universal’) Church was the first self-declared globalist organisation in the world (if one excludes the Roman Empire, whose knowledge of the ‘world’ as a whole was somewhat limited). One could hardly type opposition to Catholic desires for ‘globalism’ (by gradually converting all humans to ‘the faith’) as ‘anti-semitic’.
The meaning of ‘globalism’ I take to be ‘centralised world government’, or ‘pie in the sky’. The very idea as applied to politics rather than religion presupposes the universal human harmony of desires, morality and ethics (which I am confident will never happen before the Earth is finally swallowed up by the sun). It could be imposed, but it will never be ‘chosen’.
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Jon Hawksley
1 year ago
In language a sequence of sounds is used to name an object or event and to communicate every participant has to use a name to refer to the same object or event. The choice of a name is arbitrary and the object or event it refers to can be changed, provided everyone adopts the new meaning. Society will then usually need to find a new name for the object or event that no longer has a name. Changing what a name means does not change the nature of the objects and events that they used to refer to.
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Martin Akiyama
1 year ago
Here’s a Guardian headline from 2018 identifying “fascism and globalists” as bad people who must be fought against. The author, Yanis Varoufakis, blames the rise of nationalism on a reaction to the “degenerating financialised capitalism” of “the globalist establishment” such as Tony Blair and Hilary Clinton.
Yet again the constrast is made between ‘globalism’ and ‘nationalism’. But this omits the UK whose form of Government is neither. The UK is not, and has never been, a ‘nation’. It has no universal state religion, no universal legal system, no uniform system of honours or heraldry, no reserved money supply (Scottish banks can issue notes). The previously existing ‘nation states’ (England, Scotland) of Great Britain were abolished in 1707.
It is common for conservatives to be referred to as ‘nationalists’ because they support the UK. Well, I support the UK and Brexit, as I am definitely anti-‘nationalist’ (which I equate to racism and bogus theories of ‘ethnic essentialism’ (e.g. ‘the Scottish people’)). I support the UK because it is a United Monarchy, not a ‘nation state’. The Union flag is not a ‘national’ flag.
Perhaps these facts can be thought about every so often, whence the articles might become more insightful and relevant.
It always slightly baffles me that those claiming to represent the Jewish community seem to instinctively lash out when terms like this are used, which ends up feeding the very conspiracy theories they are subject to. If you want to avoid giving the impression that a Jewish cabal runs the planet from a space station shaped like the star of David, demonstrating your ability to criticise and censor people at a whim for using ‘dog whistles’ is not the best way to do it.
These useful plebs are always on hand to deflect from the fact organisations like the WEF, IMF and UN are clearly up to something.
No, it’s not. And anone who says that it is is just trying to shut down debate about globalism.
I agree, and the left should not be shy of using this term. 20 years ago, much of the left was engaged in anti-globalization agitation, but now that term has fallen into disuse, and much of the left has since fallen into the neoliberal trap of regarding anti-globalism as “far right.” This is a serious mistake.
Yoram Hazony knows very well that “globalist” is used by SOME people as an anti-semitic term. A bit of googling reveals a twitter thread of his from 2018 where he clearly knows that SOME people use “globalist, nationalist and Anglo-American” as dog whistles. Hazony also clearly doesn’t like this because he feels that his area of expertise is being infringed upon because these terms have what he feels are precise meanings that are being infringed upon when globalist is used in an anti-semitic manner.
Hazony is being disingenuous when he says rather blithely No, Not at all, globalist isn’t an anti-semitic term, when he knows quite well that SOME people use it in that way.
You’re right, he does. He probably also knows that acknowledging them and refusing to use the word empowers them while diminishing our understanding of the world by restricting our language. This is exactly why we shouldn’t listen to cancel culture either. The proper thing to do is not to empower these people, but to ignore them.
Why would the term ‘globalist’ be used in the way you describe?
On the point of ‘globalism’ being anti-semitic, the Roman Catholic (‘universal’) Church was the first self-declared globalist organisation in the world (if one excludes the Roman Empire, whose knowledge of the ‘world’ as a whole was somewhat limited). One could hardly type opposition to Catholic desires for ‘globalism’ (by gradually converting all humans to ‘the faith’) as ‘anti-semitic’.
The meaning of ‘globalism’ I take to be ‘centralised world government’, or ‘pie in the sky’. The very idea as applied to politics rather than religion presupposes the universal human harmony of desires, morality and ethics (which I am confident will never happen before the Earth is finally swallowed up by the sun). It could be imposed, but it will never be ‘chosen’.
In language a sequence of sounds is used to name an object or event and to communicate every participant has to use a name to refer to the same object or event. The choice of a name is arbitrary and the object or event it refers to can be changed, provided everyone adopts the new meaning. Society will then usually need to find a new name for the object or event that no longer has a name. Changing what a name means does not change the nature of the objects and events that they used to refer to.
Here’s a Guardian headline from 2018 identifying “fascism and globalists” as bad people who must be fought against. The author, Yanis Varoufakis, blames the rise of nationalism on a reaction to the “degenerating financialised capitalism” of “the globalist establishment” such as Tony Blair and Hilary Clinton.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/ng-interactive/2018/sep/13/our-new-international-movement-will-fight-rising-fascism-and-globalists
Yet again the constrast is made between ‘globalism’ and ‘nationalism’. But this omits the UK whose form of Government is neither. The UK is not, and has never been, a ‘nation’. It has no universal state religion, no universal legal system, no uniform system of honours or heraldry, no reserved money supply (Scottish banks can issue notes). The previously existing ‘nation states’ (England, Scotland) of Great Britain were abolished in 1707.
It is common for conservatives to be referred to as ‘nationalists’ because they support the UK. Well, I support the UK and Brexit, as I am definitely anti-‘nationalist’ (which I equate to racism and bogus theories of ‘ethnic essentialism’ (e.g. ‘the Scottish people’)). I support the UK because it is a United Monarchy, not a ‘nation state’. The Union flag is not a ‘national’ flag.
Perhaps these facts can be thought about every so often, whence the articles might become more insightful and relevant.