The EU is only heading one way: right.
Member states are falling one by one to right-wing government, and will continue to do so as long as the EU fails to control its borders, flooding Europe with people from entirely incompatible cultures, and so long as it continues with the absurd folly of net zero. Europeans are not going to stand for the destruction of their culture, ethnic replacement, deindustrialisation and impoverishment.
The arrogant EU will keep ploughing on with these disastrous policies until the electoral reality forces a regime change.
I wouldn’t concern oneself with Macron; he is not long for power and France may well be the next member state to fall to those who reject “the Projects” ruinous course.
Last edited 11 months ago by Marcus Leach
Marcus Leach
11 months ago
The EU is only heading one way: right.
Member states are falling one by one to right-wing government, and will continue to do so as long as the EU fails to control its borders, flooding Europe with people from entirely incompatible cultures, and so long as it continues with the absurd folly of net zero. Europeans are not going to stand for the destruction of their culture, ethnic replacement, deindustrialisation and impoverishment.
The arrogant EU will keep ploughing on with these disastrous policies until the electoral reality forces a regime change.
I wouldn’t concern oneself with Macron; he is not long for power and France may well be the next member state to fall to those who reject “the Projects” ruinous course.
Last edited 11 months ago by Marcus Leach
Katharine Eyre
11 months ago
“…may have an ulterior motive”? Please. Don’t be so coy! EVERYTHING Macron does has an ulterior motive.
Even though Macron’s (bright and less bright) ideas might be (more or less) appreciated, I cannot believe there is any appetite whatsoever among the other 26 member states to be mere ballast for French global ambition.
I mean, he’s managed to fall out with almost everyone in some way. The German-speaking media always manages to put a positive spin on things because he’s pro-EU but look at the last few years. Franco-German relations have been strained – even Merkel was annoyed with Macron’s behaviour. Macron fell out with Poland’s PM (I seem to remember EM calling Morawiecki an anti-semite, which is absolutely charming). Macron has had spats with Italy under two governments. And that’s before we get into Anglo-French relations.
Let’s play a game of “spot the common denominator”, shall we?
Agreed, but to be fair to him everyone has an ulterior motive. The real problem is the fantasy, common amongst supporters of the EU, that there can be some common motive. There can’t.
Agreed, but to be fair to him everyone has an ulterior motive. The real problem is the fantasy, common amongst supporters of the EU, that there can be some common motive. There can’t.
Katharine Eyre
11 months ago
“…may have an ulterior motive”? Please. Don’t be so coy! EVERYTHING Macron does has an ulterior motive.
Even though Macron’s (bright and less bright) ideas might be (more or less) appreciated, I cannot believe there is any appetite whatsoever among the other 26 member states to be mere ballast for French global ambition.
I mean, he’s managed to fall out with almost everyone in some way. The German-speaking media always manages to put a positive spin on things because he’s pro-EU but look at the last few years. Franco-German relations have been strained – even Merkel was annoyed with Macron’s behaviour. Macron fell out with Poland’s PM (I seem to remember EM calling Morawiecki an anti-semite, which is absolutely charming). Macron has had spats with Italy under two governments. And that’s before we get into Anglo-French relations.
Let’s play a game of “spot the common denominator”, shall we?
Last edited 11 months ago by Katharine Eyre
Peter B
11 months ago
“France cannot dethrone Germany without support from Eastern Europe, and many there have not forgotten that Macron called Nato “brain-dead” in 2019.”
So Macron’s plan’s a non-starter then. No one in Eastern Europe’s going to trust him.
Peter B
11 months ago
“France cannot dethrone Germany without support from Eastern Europe, and many there have not forgotten that Macron called Nato “brain-dead” in 2019.”
So Macron’s plan’s a non-starter then. No one in Eastern Europe’s going to trust him.
Milton Gibbon
11 months ago
The main problem with this assessment is that Germany won’t let France assume control of anything. There have been numerous French humiliations in recent years – Francafrique, AUKUS submarines, the infamous Putin calls which Macron cannot really come back from and that is before even starting with the EU. I will always remember I was in Germany when a top position came up (I can’t remember which off the top of my head) and the tv presenters were laughing about whether it would go to the French candidate or the German – you can guess which got it. Even mediocre German ministers (Von der Leyen) get plum postings which Macron would very much like for himself one day. Who knows, maybe one day he will be promoted to the top of the Eurocracy? France is more likely to be left behind as the balance of european power swings eastwards with the leaving of the UK and the rise of Poland and Mitteleurope. I listened to Peter Zahan trying to convince his interviewer that France would be the European leader of the future. Maybe he will be right but at the moment France is going in the opposite direction.
Milton Gibbon
11 months ago
The main problem with this assessment is that Germany won’t let France assume control of anything. There have been numerous French humiliations in recent years – Francafrique, AUKUS submarines, the infamous Putin calls which Macron cannot really come back from and that is before even starting with the EU. I will always remember I was in Germany when a top position came up (I can’t remember which off the top of my head) and the tv presenters were laughing about whether it would go to the French candidate or the German – you can guess which got it. Even mediocre German ministers (Von der Leyen) get plum postings which Macron would very much like for himself one day. Who knows, maybe one day he will be promoted to the top of the Eurocracy? France is more likely to be left behind as the balance of european power swings eastwards with the leaving of the UK and the rise of Poland and Mitteleurope. I listened to Peter Zahan trying to convince his interviewer that France would be the European leader of the future. Maybe he will be right but at the moment France is going in the opposite direction.
j watson
11 months ago
Isn’t it more likely that most of Europe will support NATO accession pathway if it brings peace and stability sooner? There is a trade-off here that may be emerging.
And maybe even Putin will accept (albeit not publicly) if it leaves him with something in east Ukraine?
Given UK been one of strongest supporters of Ukraine that also likely enhances our position. It’ll not just be Macron making calculations.
I do not wish for Britain and our armed forces to be obliged to fight for Ukraine. The fate of Ukraine does not pose a threat to British national security.
Rather than peace and stabilty, it occurs to me that the greater likelihood would be for Russia to react to the threat of having of NATO on its border by making use of tactical nuclear weapons to destroy large swathes of Ukraine.
I do not wish for Britain and our armed forces to be obliged to fight for Ukraine.
Rather than peace and stabilty, it occurs to me that the greater likelihood would be for Russia to react to the threat of having of NATO on its border by making use of tactical nuclear weapons.
Why all the downvotes? Do people want to die in a nuclear armageddon for the cause of Ukrainian freedom? Let the russkies get to the channel and then I might take note. Currently they can’t take half of Ukraine.
They were out bashing the pots together and clapping like demented things on Thursdays for the NHS and Lockdowns, and their own destruction – because the Media told them to.
Now the Media told them to wave the blue and yellow – so they are waving it like loons, although it destroys Europe, their pensions, their savings, their future…
They were out bashing the pots together and clapping like demented things on Thursdays for the NHS and Lockdowns, and their own destruction – because the Media told them to.
Now the Media told them to wave the blue and yellow – so they are waving it like loons, although it destroys Europe, their pensions, their savings, their future…
Why all the downvotes? Do people want to die in a nuclear armageddon for the cause of Ukrainian freedom? Let the russkies get to the channel and then I might take note. Currently they can’t take half of Ukraine.
I do not wish for Britain and our armed forces to be obliged to fight for Ukraine. The fate of Ukraine does not pose a threat to British national security.
Rather than peace and stabilty, it occurs to me that the greater likelihood would be for Russia to react to the threat of having of NATO on its border by making use of tactical nuclear weapons to destroy large swathes of Ukraine.
I do not wish for Britain and our armed forces to be obliged to fight for Ukraine.
Rather than peace and stabilty, it occurs to me that the greater likelihood would be for Russia to react to the threat of having of NATO on its border by making use of tactical nuclear weapons.
j watson
11 months ago
Isn’t it more likely that most of Europe will support NATO accession pathway if it brings peace and stability sooner? There is a trade-off here that may be emerging.
And maybe even Putin will accept (albeit not publicly) if it leaves him with something in east Ukraine?
Given UK been one of strongest supporters of Ukraine that also likely enhances our position. It’ll not just be Macron making calculations.
The EU is only heading one way: right.
Member states are falling one by one to right-wing government, and will continue to do so as long as the EU fails to control its borders, flooding Europe with people from entirely incompatible cultures, and so long as it continues with the absurd folly of net zero. Europeans are not going to stand for the destruction of their culture, ethnic replacement, deindustrialisation and impoverishment.
The arrogant EU will keep ploughing on with these disastrous policies until the electoral reality forces a regime change.
I wouldn’t concern oneself with Macron; he is not long for power and France may well be the next member state to fall to those who reject “the Projects” ruinous course.
The EU is only heading one way: right.
Member states are falling one by one to right-wing government, and will continue to do so as long as the EU fails to control its borders, flooding Europe with people from entirely incompatible cultures, and so long as it continues with the absurd folly of net zero. Europeans are not going to stand for the destruction of their culture, ethnic replacement, deindustrialisation and impoverishment.
The arrogant EU will keep ploughing on with these disastrous policies until the electoral reality forces a regime change.
I wouldn’t concern oneself with Macron; he is not long for power and France may well be the next member state to fall to those who reject “the Projects” ruinous course.
“…may have an ulterior motive”? Please. Don’t be so coy! EVERYTHING Macron does has an ulterior motive.
Even though Macron’s (bright and less bright) ideas might be (more or less) appreciated, I cannot believe there is any appetite whatsoever among the other 26 member states to be mere ballast for French global ambition.
I mean, he’s managed to fall out with almost everyone in some way. The German-speaking media always manages to put a positive spin on things because he’s pro-EU but look at the last few years. Franco-German relations have been strained – even Merkel was annoyed with Macron’s behaviour. Macron fell out with Poland’s PM (I seem to remember EM calling Morawiecki an anti-semite, which is absolutely charming). Macron has had spats with Italy under two governments. And that’s before we get into Anglo-French relations.
Let’s play a game of “spot the common denominator”, shall we?
Agreed, but to be fair to him everyone has an ulterior motive. The real problem is the fantasy, common amongst supporters of the EU, that there can be some common motive. There can’t.
Agreed, but to be fair to him everyone has an ulterior motive. The real problem is the fantasy, common amongst supporters of the EU, that there can be some common motive. There can’t.
“…may have an ulterior motive”? Please. Don’t be so coy! EVERYTHING Macron does has an ulterior motive.
Even though Macron’s (bright and less bright) ideas might be (more or less) appreciated, I cannot believe there is any appetite whatsoever among the other 26 member states to be mere ballast for French global ambition.
I mean, he’s managed to fall out with almost everyone in some way. The German-speaking media always manages to put a positive spin on things because he’s pro-EU but look at the last few years. Franco-German relations have been strained – even Merkel was annoyed with Macron’s behaviour. Macron fell out with Poland’s PM (I seem to remember EM calling Morawiecki an anti-semite, which is absolutely charming). Macron has had spats with Italy under two governments. And that’s before we get into Anglo-French relations.
Let’s play a game of “spot the common denominator”, shall we?
“France cannot dethrone Germany without support from Eastern Europe, and many there have not forgotten that Macron called Nato “brain-dead” in 2019.”
So Macron’s plan’s a non-starter then. No one in Eastern Europe’s going to trust him.
“France cannot dethrone Germany without support from Eastern Europe, and many there have not forgotten that Macron called Nato “brain-dead” in 2019.”
So Macron’s plan’s a non-starter then. No one in Eastern Europe’s going to trust him.
The main problem with this assessment is that Germany won’t let France assume control of anything. There have been numerous French humiliations in recent years – Francafrique, AUKUS submarines, the infamous Putin calls which Macron cannot really come back from and that is before even starting with the EU. I will always remember I was in Germany when a top position came up (I can’t remember which off the top of my head) and the tv presenters were laughing about whether it would go to the French candidate or the German – you can guess which got it. Even mediocre German ministers (Von der Leyen) get plum postings which Macron would very much like for himself one day. Who knows, maybe one day he will be promoted to the top of the Eurocracy? France is more likely to be left behind as the balance of european power swings eastwards with the leaving of the UK and the rise of Poland and Mitteleurope. I listened to Peter Zahan trying to convince his interviewer that France would be the European leader of the future. Maybe he will be right but at the moment France is going in the opposite direction.
The main problem with this assessment is that Germany won’t let France assume control of anything. There have been numerous French humiliations in recent years – Francafrique, AUKUS submarines, the infamous Putin calls which Macron cannot really come back from and that is before even starting with the EU. I will always remember I was in Germany when a top position came up (I can’t remember which off the top of my head) and the tv presenters were laughing about whether it would go to the French candidate or the German – you can guess which got it. Even mediocre German ministers (Von der Leyen) get plum postings which Macron would very much like for himself one day. Who knows, maybe one day he will be promoted to the top of the Eurocracy? France is more likely to be left behind as the balance of european power swings eastwards with the leaving of the UK and the rise of Poland and Mitteleurope. I listened to Peter Zahan trying to convince his interviewer that France would be the European leader of the future. Maybe he will be right but at the moment France is going in the opposite direction.
Isn’t it more likely that most of Europe will support NATO accession pathway if it brings peace and stability sooner? There is a trade-off here that may be emerging.
And maybe even Putin will accept (albeit not publicly) if it leaves him with something in east Ukraine?
Given UK been one of strongest supporters of Ukraine that also likely enhances our position. It’ll not just be Macron making calculations.
I do not wish for Britain and our armed forces to be obliged to fight for Ukraine. The fate of Ukraine does not pose a threat to British national security.
Rather than peace and stabilty, it occurs to me that the greater likelihood would be for Russia to react to the threat of having of NATO on its border by making use of tactical nuclear weapons to destroy large swathes of Ukraine.
I do not wish for Britain and our armed forces to be obliged to fight for Ukraine.
Rather than peace and stabilty, it occurs to me that the greater likelihood would be for Russia to react to the threat of having of NATO on its border by making use of tactical nuclear weapons.
Why all the downvotes? Do people want to die in a nuclear armageddon for the cause of Ukrainian freedom? Let the russkies get to the channel and then I might take note. Currently they can’t take half of Ukraine.
They were out bashing the pots together and clapping like demented things on Thursdays for the NHS and Lockdowns, and their own destruction – because the Media told them to.
Now the Media told them to wave the blue and yellow – so they are waving it like loons, although it destroys Europe, their pensions, their savings, their future…
They are just sheep doing as told….
“I am a good person who supports the current thing.”
“I am a good person who supports the current thing.”
They were out bashing the pots together and clapping like demented things on Thursdays for the NHS and Lockdowns, and their own destruction – because the Media told them to.
Now the Media told them to wave the blue and yellow – so they are waving it like loons, although it destroys Europe, their pensions, their savings, their future…
They are just sheep doing as told….
Why all the downvotes? Do people want to die in a nuclear armageddon for the cause of Ukrainian freedom? Let the russkies get to the channel and then I might take note. Currently they can’t take half of Ukraine.
I do not wish for Britain and our armed forces to be obliged to fight for Ukraine. The fate of Ukraine does not pose a threat to British national security.
Rather than peace and stabilty, it occurs to me that the greater likelihood would be for Russia to react to the threat of having of NATO on its border by making use of tactical nuclear weapons to destroy large swathes of Ukraine.
I do not wish for Britain and our armed forces to be obliged to fight for Ukraine.
Rather than peace and stabilty, it occurs to me that the greater likelihood would be for Russia to react to the threat of having of NATO on its border by making use of tactical nuclear weapons.
Isn’t it more likely that most of Europe will support NATO accession pathway if it brings peace and stability sooner? There is a trade-off here that may be emerging.
And maybe even Putin will accept (albeit not publicly) if it leaves him with something in east Ukraine?
Given UK been one of strongest supporters of Ukraine that also likely enhances our position. It’ll not just be Macron making calculations.