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Investigation casts more doubt on KCL ‘indoctrination’ case

Students protest outside King's College London in 2021. Credit: Getty

September 15, 2024 - 8:00am

For Peter Neumann, Professor of Security Studies at King’s College London, January 2024 was not a pleasant month.  As UnHerd reported at the time, an online journal called Fathom published an article by Anna Stanley, a young and obscure former Foreign Office official, describing a summer school terrorism course for civil servants that she had attended at the university the previous autumn. She argued that it had been dominated by “woke” identity politics, downplayed the threat of Islamist extremism, and “indoctrinated” students to believe there was no moral difference between terrorists and the democracies they attacked.

Stanley also said that an unnamed lecturer had described the writer Douglas Murray and the podcaster Joe Rogan as “far right”, demanding they should be “suppressed”. A few days after it was posted, Murray issued a series of tweets to his near-million social media followers accusing Neumann of being the offending academic. This was repeated by the Times, which also falsely claimed that Neumann was director of the course.

Neumann insisted in a letter to the paper that other lecturers included former heads of MI5 and GCHQ, that he was a “centre-right liberal” who was “highly critical of cancel culture”, and that he had never called for Murray or anyone else to be censored.

However, the damage had been done. The then-security minister Tom Tugendhat announced a Government review of “biased” civil servant training, and Neumann faced demands for his resignation, along with a torrent of threats. One of his detractors called him a “Jew-hating scumbag”. Others accused him of being “Nazi-influenced” and a “terrorist” funded by Islamists.

Some days after stating that Neumann had directed the course, the Times issued a correction on this point. Although he was a department professor, his involvement extended to giving a lecture and Q&A. But everything else — Stanley’s article, several pieces in the Times and innumerable social media posts — remains online. “I was in a state of panic,” Neumann told me this week. “I knew I had not said these things, but how could I possibly prove it?”

Recollections, as Buckingham Palace once noted, may vary. But the curious thing about Stanley’s memories of the course is that when both King’s College and the Foreign Office conducted inquiries, they could not find anyone who shared them.

In her article, Stanley — who had left the Foreign Office after less than two years by the time it was published — said she found the course “a deeply, existentially depressing experience”, which consisted of “politically biased, anti-government training” that was so extreme it represented “a national security risk”.

This is difficult to square with a text she sent to another of the lecturers, Dr Rajan Basra. Seen by UnHerd, it read: “Thanks for your lecture [at] Kings College yesterday, it was very insightful. Tomorrow is my last day on the course and I’ve really enjoyed it!”

King’s College concluded its internal investigation first. By the end of January, this had confirmed that the names of Rogan and Murray did not appear in any of the course lecture slides, and that no one who had been present could remember them being mentioned by Neumann or anyone else.

A second inquiry was led by Matthew Dixon, the Foreign Office’s principal analyst on international terrorism. In an email to Neumann sent at the end of June, he said he had found that “none of the King’s staff on the course recalled you, the participants or other lecturers making many of the statements listed in the article.”

Dixon also spoke to many of course’s students. “These conversations gave me confidence that the substance of the article was based on a mix of comments taken out of context and falsehoods,” he said. “Comments about the moral relativity of terrorism were a clear distortion, deliberate or otherwise, of what was said […] In consultation with colleagues, I therefore determined that there was no reason to question our relationship with KCL or to discontinue offering the course.” He also found no evidence for the claims that Neumann suggested Right-wing voices should be silenced.

A Foreign Office spokesman issued a further statement in an email to UnHerd this week: “An examination of these claims concluded they were unsubstantiated, and staff continue to attend the course as an insight into academic counter terrorism trends.”

Alan Johnson, the editor of Fathom, who cut his political teeth at the now-defunct Trotskyite publication Socialist Organiser before going to work at the pro-Israel advocacy group BICOM, did not respond to a request for comment.

Stanley, however, sent an email in which she claimed that she sent an appreciative text to Basra because she had found “his particular lecture insightful”. As for telling him she had “really enjoyed” the course as a whole, she wrote: “Automatic niceties regarding the course overall were reflective of my English sensibility towards politeness.” She said she had conveyed her true feelings in a voicemail to a friend “with whom she could speak more freely”.

She did not try to explain why no one else could recall the other statements cited in her piece in Fathom, but insisted: “I stand by everything I wrote in my article.”

Neumann appears to have been vindicated, but admits it will take time to get over the experience. “I guess you can imagine what it’s like for a German who’s devoted time and given money to Jewish causes to be accused of being a terrorist and antisemite,” he said. “It’s awful.”


David Rose is UnHerd‘s Investigations Editor.

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David Morley
David Morley
3 months ago

Whatever was actually said, I would expect on a course like this that participants have to learn the point of view of the terrorists. Otherwise how do they put themselves into the terrorists heads and understand their motivation.

I would imagine that lecturers will now be nervous about doing this, rendering courses less effective.

Mark Knight
Mark Knight
3 months ago

Without social media this would have been a hot topic at, at least, two London dinner parties. Even now, who cares!?

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee
3 months ago

Hmm. Woke institution conducts investigation of dreadful allegations that it is woke. Finds that it isn’t woke at all.
Well that’s that, then.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
3 months ago

Professor of Security Studies, eh? So just another BS course conducted by one of the approved herd. Douglas Murray’s honesty, courage, and scholarship are impeccable. I’ll take his assertions as the final word in this matter, and many others.
“Investigations” don’t need adverbs, Mr. Investigations Editor. “Falsely” and “appears to be vindicated” are weasely fact-checker words. Oh, and just because Murray and Rogan’s names don’t appear in lecture slides doesn’t mean Neumann didn’t say what Stanley asserted. After all, what’s in it for her to make it up?

mac mahmood
mac mahmood
3 months ago

This is how the zionist lobby works. By raising a storm in a non-existent teacup and obscuring substantive issues under a thick layer of frothy innuendos. This is how we have come to a state when real terrorists are idolised, promoted and funded, and their victims demonised. Brave new world.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-06-21/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/zionist-military-org-efforts-to-recruit-nazis-in-fight-against-the-british-are-revealed/00000188-d93a-d5fc-ab9d-db7ae0ea0000

mac mahmood
mac mahmood
3 months ago

This is how the zionist lobby works. By raising a storm in a teacup and obscuring substantive issues under a heady froth of misinformation. This is is how we have arrived at a state of affairs where actual terrorists are idolised, funded and promoted while their victims are demonised left, right and centre.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-06-21/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/zionist-military-org-efforts-to-recruit-nazis-in-fight-against-the-british-are-revealed/00000188-d93a-d5fc-ab9d-db7ae0ea0000

Rob N
Rob N
3 months ago

It does not seem that Stanley ever said it was Neumann.

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
3 months ago

“Believe nothing until it is officially denied”…Bismarck
It just has been.

Roger Roger
Roger Roger
3 months ago

Loose Talk Can Affect Careers if not cost lives

Milton Gibbon
Milton Gibbon
3 months ago

Just record the course. In 2012 all my contemporaries’ lectures were available online so it can’t be difficult. If there is nothing to hide then nothing to fear. This goes for all institutions left or right.
The same logic does not apply to individuals but how are “investigations” of this nature meant to take place two years later?

j watson
j watson
3 months ago

Myth travels much faster than Fact. Something we all need to bear in mind.

David Kingsworthy
David Kingsworthy
3 months ago

Hmmm, Mr. Neumann is a centre-right liberal….