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Steven Targett
Steven Targett
11 months ago

Military juntas are not generally renowned for their approach to human rights and humanity in general. This is regardless of whom their backers are – Pinochet’s Chile wasn’t famed for its liberalism.

Steven Targett
Steven Targett
11 months ago

Military juntas are not generally renowned for their approach to human rights and humanity in general. This is regardless of whom their backers are – Pinochet’s Chile wasn’t famed for its liberalism.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
11 months ago

ah .. Mali.. another thriving example of African success!

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
11 months ago

ah .. Mali.. another thriving example of African success!

Milton Gibbon
Milton Gibbon
11 months ago

Good article although too much time is spent on the atrocities committed. We get it. The trouble for liberal democracy is that brutal tactics work. Syria, Iran, China, North Korea and Russia all use excessive force against their own citizens (let alone others) and it keeps the ‘regime’ in place. Sagar Enjeti on Breaking Points – pretty middle of the road unlike his co-host – made a really good point the other day in regards to N Korea: for about half a century we have been confidently predicting the fall of the regime there but they are still in power and have developed nuclear weapons that could wipe out Hawaii or LA. It used to be a given that such an autocratic and nihilistic government would fall. At the moment would you want to bet against North Korea falling vs the break up of the UK or USA?

What the author doesn’t mention is that for years French forces have been accused of war crimes over tens of people dying in raids. Those same human rights people turn a blind eye to Russian mercenaries doing the same. It may well have originally come from a good place to call out crimes committed by western forces but when the comparison is hundreds of people in one attack (listed above) you get a feeling that, hey, maybe the French weren’t the worst thing to have happened to the Sahel. On the flip side the author says that terrorism has grown under Russian aid but fails to mention the Islamist insurgencies in the region that the French failed to stop. Remember when Timbuktu was being smashed up? Another article where the interesting part is confined to the last half of a short artcle (from: “While outcompeting France…”). Get him to write a proper article starting from there. He’s one of the best writers on here.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
11 months ago
Reply to  Milton Gibbon

more evidence that Africa is centuries behind in every aspect.

Glyn R
Glyn R
11 months ago
Reply to  Milton Gibbon

I agree with your point of view and history proves it. Tyrants keep hold of power by use of brutal force. How else has an Islamic autocracy such as Iran managed to keep hold of power? Every single uprising is cruelly repressed and ring leaders executed or flung into desperate prisons for many years. Meanwhile, our media, academia etc remain silent but happily and enthusiastically peddle the narrative of Western abuse – much of which I do not deny but it needs to be put in the balance – so that a large majority have little to no idea of the atrocities committed by historical figures such as Mao or Pol Pot or current tyrants but will castigate the white west and blame them for all the sorrows of the world as if all other cultures and nations were innocent.

Last edited 11 months ago by Glyn R
Andrew Stoll
Andrew Stoll
11 months ago
Reply to  Glyn R

Mao and Pol Pot were both a product of German and French inspiration. Karl Marx and French leftist ‘intellectuals’

Andrew Stoll
Andrew Stoll
11 months ago
Reply to  Glyn R

Mao and Pol Pot were both a product of German and French inspiration. Karl Marx and French leftist ‘intellectuals’

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
11 months ago
Reply to  Milton Gibbon

more evidence that Africa is centuries behind in every aspect.

Glyn R
Glyn R
11 months ago
Reply to  Milton Gibbon

I agree with your point of view and history proves it. Tyrants keep hold of power by use of brutal force. How else has an Islamic autocracy such as Iran managed to keep hold of power? Every single uprising is cruelly repressed and ring leaders executed or flung into desperate prisons for many years. Meanwhile, our media, academia etc remain silent but happily and enthusiastically peddle the narrative of Western abuse – much of which I do not deny but it needs to be put in the balance – so that a large majority have little to no idea of the atrocities committed by historical figures such as Mao or Pol Pot or current tyrants but will castigate the white west and blame them for all the sorrows of the world as if all other cultures and nations were innocent.

Last edited 11 months ago by Glyn R
Milton Gibbon
Milton Gibbon
11 months ago

Good article although too much time is spent on the atrocities committed. We get it. The trouble for liberal democracy is that brutal tactics work. Syria, Iran, China, North Korea and Russia all use excessive force against their own citizens (let alone others) and it keeps the ‘regime’ in place. Sagar Enjeti on Breaking Points – pretty middle of the road unlike his co-host – made a really good point the other day in regards to N Korea: for about half a century we have been confidently predicting the fall of the regime there but they are still in power and have developed nuclear weapons that could wipe out Hawaii or LA. It used to be a given that such an autocratic and nihilistic government would fall. At the moment would you want to bet against North Korea falling vs the break up of the UK or USA?

What the author doesn’t mention is that for years French forces have been accused of war crimes over tens of people dying in raids. Those same human rights people turn a blind eye to Russian mercenaries doing the same. It may well have originally come from a good place to call out crimes committed by western forces but when the comparison is hundreds of people in one attack (listed above) you get a feeling that, hey, maybe the French weren’t the worst thing to have happened to the Sahel. On the flip side the author says that terrorism has grown under Russian aid but fails to mention the Islamist insurgencies in the region that the French failed to stop. Remember when Timbuktu was being smashed up? Another article where the interesting part is confined to the last half of a short artcle (from: “While outcompeting France…”). Get him to write a proper article starting from there. He’s one of the best writers on here.