The entire organisation of the vaccine administration program should be handed to the military. All the BS regulations about sensitivity and diversity training suspended.
The sole goal should be to get people in and vaccinated. The NHS is demonstrably incompetent It cannot plan even plan for foreseeable things, let alone the unexpected.
This is too important to be left to the suits, ‘heroes’ and ‘angels’ of the NHS.
It shouldn’t be left to the NHS. But it also should not be given to the military.
The challenge will be quickly accessing the vulnerable – the elderly, the mentally and physically disabled, and those with other comorbidities. Within this group there are going to be people too ill to travel, people who don’t understand what’s going on, people who don’t want anything to do with it, etc etc. A huge number of these live in the community.
The easy to reach people who can travel and have understand what the letter means and requires from them will be very easy to vaccinate. The others will be incredibly difficult to vaccinate and require a whole host of health and social care providers plus other government bodies to come together to reach.
The others will be incredibly difficult to vaccinate and require a whole host of health and social care providers plus other government bodies to come together to reach.
That sentence is exactly why Joe has suggested “This is too important to be left to the suits, ‘heroes’ and ‘angels’ of the NHS.”
Physically the vaccination will be the same for everyone: 1. find person (best let them come to you) 2. roll up person’s sleeve 3. stick needle in and press plunger
You would know if they let an air bubble in it. They have been advertising for trained and semi trained people to give these injections. My sister was offered a post at #350 per day. I saw the email offering her this post, Of course she said no, she didn’t want to be involved in this scam. She will stick to being a care worker.
The issue of getting vaccines to people with significant mobility difficulties, dementia or other medical problems not a trivial one. At the moment it is being carried out in huge halls. There seems to be absolutely no talk of bringing vaccines to peoples’ homes. This would be ideal in some cases, though clearly not logistically possible for the whole population.
Except it is, at least it requires a modicum of medical training. Probably training more people up in this skills fast would be a good use of resources though.
This injection needs to be delivered intramuscularly, any error and you will end up injecting it into the subcutaneous tissue reducing its effectiveness.
It needs to be either injected into the deltoid muscle, or secondarily when this is not possible the vastus lateralis neither of which are easily reachable to a person self-injecting.
I am not suggesting excluding the NHS. I am suggesting giving the military the job of coordinating it, and instructing all the second-guessers and jobsworths what to do. And making it clear that the NHS staff working on the vaccine program report directly to the military.
The initial track and trace app was produced by the military. The first trial was done on an RAF base, before the larger scale trial on IoW which basically flopped.
The military has presided over many of its own disasters, often thanks to being misdirected by politicians.
The call to bring in the military is not a call for omnipotent saviours but is an admission that the civil authorities, who consume vast amounts of tax payer cash, could not organise a piss up in a brewery. The military however does at least organise good piss ups.
stephensjpriest
3 years ago
Ivermectin and COVID-19 you tube watch?v=u21N8Vu4kOk Christy Risinger, MD
As we all know, there is no money for Bill Gates and Astra Zeneca etc in Ivermectin because it’s an existing drug. That said, my understanding is that the various vaccines do not prevent you from getting Covid. Nor do they prevent you from spreading it. So we will still be needing the Ivermectin.
Why vaccinate 20 people to save 1 care home resident? Vaccinate the care home resident and save20 vaccines
Adrian
3 years ago
Sure, the military can magic glass vials and the factories to produce them out of thin air. I mean, I can’t think why there might be a global shortage of glass vials at the moment.
We could send our army over to China, Russia and the US and demand they give us all the vials they have been hoarding. Gotta show those Wall Street speculators, hoarding glass vials to push up the price!
Or perhaps the boy scouts could collect jam jars and we could put the vaccines in those.
You gotta love journalists. People who truly don’t understand the meaning of the phrase ‘easier said than done’.
Andrew Fisher
3 years ago
Surely the plan is to prioritise the vaccines for those likely to get seriously ill with covid, (and thereby end up in hospital) who are a small minority of the population.
Jonathan Barker
3 years ago
But of course the question still remains as to whether these quickly produced vaccines do actually work. And, more importantly are they safe – it is of course almost impossible for the ordinary person to know. That having been said please find a unique and very comprehensive and quite disturbing assessment of the situation via an essay by Thomas Cowan titled Covid Vaccines Are Medical Experiments on Humanity
Malcolm Ripley
3 years ago
Anyone who thinks this ending anytime soon with vaccines is utterly deluded and has fallen for every promise since the infamous 3 weeks to flatten the curve. It won’t take long, sometime between now and Easter there will be yet another “need” for further lockdowns, more masking and newer vaccines. What I would love to know is how many times do politicians have to state some “solution” that doesn’t work followed by more solutions before people think “This is utter BS”.
Design a Vaccine grown on Plasma or Blood, Like Millions i am allergic to Albumin based ones…
Peter Francis
3 years ago
The article says that “A solution as simple as putting multiple doses in one vial needs to be considered urgently.” AstraZeneca’s vaccine vials contain 10 doses and Pfizer’s vials contain 5 or 6 doses. Putting more doses in a vial is not always beneficial because it leads to increased wastage. Once the vial has been opened, the vaccine has a fridge life of a few hours, after which the remaining doses in the opened vials must be discarded. For GP-led vaccination teams with a low throughput, this can make it hard to keep within the wastage target of 5%in England. A larger number of doses per vial would mean that, on average, more gets discarded in expired vials.
Frederik van Beek
3 years ago
I mean…, having Tom Chivers on board on this platform is already quite an ordeal but this Kitson is an even greater pain in the *…The effect of any corona-vaccine is heavily overrated because the people they’re trying to save with it are almost dead. If you are lucky the vaccine will do the same as the vaccines against inluenza, which is close to nothing when you are aiming at a period of let’ say more than 2 years of extra life expectancy
The entire organisation of the vaccine administration program should be handed to the military. All the BS regulations about sensitivity and diversity training suspended.
The sole goal should be to get people in and vaccinated. The NHS is demonstrably incompetent It cannot plan even plan for foreseeable things, let alone the unexpected.
This is too important to be left to the suits, ‘heroes’ and ‘angels’ of the NHS.
It shouldn’t be left to the NHS. But it also should not be given to the military.
The challenge will be quickly accessing the vulnerable – the elderly, the mentally and physically disabled, and those with other comorbidities. Within this group there are going to be people too ill to travel, people who don’t understand what’s going on, people who don’t want anything to do with it, etc etc. A huge number of these live in the community.
The easy to reach people who can travel and have understand what the letter means and requires from them will be very easy to vaccinate. The others will be incredibly difficult to vaccinate and require a whole host of health and social care providers plus other government bodies to come together to reach.
That sentence is exactly why Joe has suggested “This is too important to be left to the suits, ‘heroes’ and ‘angels’ of the NHS.”
Physically the vaccination will be the same for everyone:
1. find person (best let them come to you)
2. roll up person’s sleeve
3. stick needle in and press plunger
What’s “incredibly difficult” about that?
You would know if they let an air bubble in it. They have been advertising for trained and semi trained people to give these injections. My sister was offered a post at #350 per day. I saw the email offering her this post, Of course she said no, she didn’t want to be involved in this scam. She will stick to being a care worker.
I’m diabetic. I inject myself several times a day with insulin. OK its a subcutaneous injection. Does the vaccine have to be injected into a vein?
You should become a brain surgeon, it’s really easy
1. Chop head off
2. Scoop the bad stuff out
3. Glue head back on again
How hard can it be?
I love it. However:
1. you’ve missed out several steps
2. what you’re describing is called execution not brain surgery.
The issue of getting vaccines to people with significant mobility difficulties, dementia or other medical problems not a trivial one. At the moment it is being carried out in huge halls. There seems to be absolutely no talk of bringing vaccines to peoples’ homes. This would be ideal in some cases, though clearly not logistically possible for the whole population.
Agreed which is exactly why the military (or possibly Amazon since thay have tremendous logistical experience) should be involved.
Delivering the injections is not a medical problem – its a logistical one.
Except it is, at least it requires a modicum of medical training. Probably training more people up in this skills fast would be a good use of resources though.
This injection needs to be delivered intramuscularly, any error and you will end up injecting it into the subcutaneous tissue reducing its effectiveness.
It needs to be either injected into the deltoid muscle, or secondarily when this is not possible the vastus lateralis neither of which are easily reachable to a person self-injecting.
I am not suggesting excluding the NHS. I am suggesting giving the military the job of coordinating it, and instructing all the second-guessers and jobsworths what to do. And making it clear that the NHS staff working on the vaccine program report directly to the military.
The initial track and trace app was produced by the military. The first trial was done on an RAF base, before the larger scale trial on IoW which basically flopped.
The military has presided over many of its own disasters, often thanks to being misdirected by politicians.
The call to bring in the military is not a call for omnipotent saviours but is an admission that the civil authorities, who consume vast amounts of tax payer cash, could not organise a piss up in a brewery. The military however does at least organise good piss ups.
Ivermectin and COVID-19
you tube watch?v=u21N8Vu4kOk
Christy Risinger, MD
As we all know, there is no money for Bill Gates and Astra Zeneca etc in Ivermectin because it’s an existing drug. That said, my understanding is that the various vaccines do not prevent you from getting Covid. Nor do they prevent you from spreading it. So we will still be needing the Ivermectin.
Take nothing. What the hell is in these things?
Why vaccinate 20 people to save 1 care home resident? Vaccinate the care home resident and save20 vaccines
Sure, the military can magic glass vials and the factories to produce them out of thin air. I mean, I can’t think why there might be a global shortage of glass vials at the moment.
We could send our army over to China, Russia and the US and demand they give us all the vials they have been hoarding. Gotta show those Wall Street speculators, hoarding glass vials to push up the price!
Or perhaps the boy scouts could collect jam jars and we could put the vaccines in those.
You gotta love journalists. People who truly don’t understand the meaning of the phrase ‘easier said than done’.
Surely the plan is to prioritise the vaccines for those likely to get seriously ill with covid, (and thereby end up in hospital) who are a small minority of the population.
But of course the question still remains as to whether these quickly produced vaccines do actually work. And, more importantly are they safe – it is of course almost impossible for the ordinary person to know.
That having been said please find a unique and very comprehensive and quite disturbing assessment of the situation via an essay by Thomas Cowan titled Covid Vaccines Are Medical Experiments on Humanity
Anyone who thinks this ending anytime soon with vaccines is utterly deluded and has fallen for every promise since the infamous 3 weeks to flatten the curve. It won’t take long, sometime between now and Easter there will be yet another “need” for further lockdowns, more masking and newer vaccines. What I would love to know is how many times do politicians have to state some “solution” that doesn’t work followed by more solutions before people think “This is utter BS”.
https://rumble.com/vbok4n-8…
Design a Vaccine grown on Plasma or Blood, Like Millions i am allergic to Albumin based ones…
The article says that “A solution as simple as putting multiple doses in one vial needs to be considered urgently.” AstraZeneca’s vaccine vials contain 10 doses and Pfizer’s vials contain 5 or 6 doses. Putting more doses in a vial is not always beneficial because it leads to increased wastage. Once the vial has been opened, the vaccine has a fridge life of a few hours, after which the remaining doses in the opened vials must be discarded. For GP-led vaccination teams with a low throughput, this can make it hard to keep within the wastage target of 5%in England. A larger number of doses per vial would mean that, on average, more gets discarded in expired vials.
I mean…, having Tom Chivers on board on this platform is already quite an ordeal but this Kitson is an even greater pain in the *…The effect of any corona-vaccine is heavily overrated because the people they’re trying to save with it are almost dead. If you are lucky the vaccine will do the same as the vaccines against inluenza, which is close to nothing when you are aiming at a period of let’ say more than 2 years of extra life expectancy