More proof (as if it were needed) that the modern Left are the Racist Whitesplainers of our time.
Hispanics need not worry – they will no doubt be upgraded in due course to Honorary Whites (as with Indo-Chinese Asians), in order that white woke liberals can preserve the purity of their BAME victimhood concept.
Earl King
2 years ago
Hispanics are nothing like African Americans. Democrats have always been the party of immigrants. Italian Americans, Irish Americans have always had an affinity for Democrats. The assumption is that Hispanics would follow. A great many have, but not the extent that like African Americans who are a 90% reliable Democrat vote. Hispanics emigrate here for our economic security. For the freedoms to build your own economic success. They start businesses they work very hard.
They freely enter the US diaspora and integrate well. A second or third generation son or daughter of immigrants often want to protect what economic success they have achieved. In that respect the Democratic Socialists ideas and language are actually driving away Hispanics. Naturally a conservative culture…..they are just as repulsed by white liberal fragility, anti racist, BLM, Antifa behavior.
Brendan O'Leary
2 years ago
Immigrants are generally moving to improve their chances in life.
Allowing themselves to become a captive vote seems contrary to that goal.
Cathy Carron
2 years ago
I was delighted but nearly fell on the floor when my Ecuadorian house cleaner told me she was voting for Trump / Republican. Supposedly, her friends gave her grief for that move but I suspect she also planted a seed in their head that it’s okay to leave the Democrat-Dependency-Plantation and really become a free thinking, uncensored and freedom-loving citizen.
How on earth does your Ecuadorian cleaner get to vote for the US President?
William Hickey
2 years ago
Missing from the discussion is the factor of the Trump personality on the Hispanic vote. It may not be Trump’s issues that drove the increase in 2016 and 2020 as much as Trump the man.
Trump is a character out of a telenovela, the typical padrone of Spanish culture. Brash, boastful, domineering, with wealth he flaunts and a beautiful, smiling and silent wife by his side, he is an archetypal figure of immense personal appeal to Hispanics. Men want to be like him, women want to be near him.
Anyone who addresses the increased vote for GOP president from 2012 to 2020 without taking those qualities into account is being deliberately obtuse. Try to imagine Mitt Romney at a Mixed Martial Arts championship fight — C’mon, man!
Virginia is the strongest indicator so far of a true shift, if the GOP poll is accurate.
However, Hispanics are a plurality of voters in California and New Mexico. Until I start to see election results for the state legislatures and congressional districts in those states and others reflect this outlier poll and optimistic article, I’m going to remain skeptical of the long-forecasted conservative Hispanics.
Not quite sure of the macho idea really being a motivating factor. Trump stressed jobs, not give aways. Trump noted that jobs lost to immigrants was ruining the ability of many to get ahead as their jobs got taken by a person who would work for less, no questions asked bosses. The Republican party fails to take advantage of family values, education and jobs approach to minorities. Changes in tax policy don’t matter but jobs do. NM and CA are remarkably strange places for Republicans who seem unable to build a message that end heritage vote patterns. Maybe them can improve but have largely given up.
James Joyce
2 years ago
I object to much of this article, especially adopting the language of the woke. What is an Hispanic?What is a minority? Are you still a minority if no one group makes up a majority? The word “Hispanic” is a word made up out of thin air by the federal government (evil personified), for a census some decades ago. Latinx is similar, though it was made up by the woke (also evil personified) more recently. “Minorities” is another term that is increasingly irrelevant–though still widely used–for woke reasons. What’s wrong with just being American?
To combat this Orwellian usage, I’ve invented a term that I would like see widely used instead of “people of color, or “poc” (is it racist that I didn’t capitalize it?). My preferred term is COW, “Citizen of Wakanda.” All so-called minorities and “poc” can be COWs, but there are graduations of citizenship. It’s obvious that those with the darkest skin are first class citizens, blacks with lighter skin can be second class citizens, brown people third class, and Asians maybe fourth class citizens, (because they are “white adjacent,” [whatever that means], and use “white supremacist thinking” to get ahead. So they can be the equivalent of BNOs–the British gradiation of citizenship.
And what is the point of tracing the supposed political evolution of white Catholics? There is such a huge schism in the American Catholic Church, which employs, in theory, an extreme social justice dogma similar to communism that has much in common with the Jewish tradition of social justice wokeness. “Is the pope Catholic?” is now a serious question in America and around the world. The King of the paedos goes to Cyrpus and hugs the invaders, while American Catholics see the Southern border–I mean Southern region–there is no border, being overrun by invading hordes and say “Enough Already!” Maybe the King of the Paedos is not so infallible after all!
In summary, let’s stop slicing and dicing what is an American. The alternative is the former Yugoslavia and current Lebanon, which did exactly that. How did that end for those countries?
Christopher Barclay
2 years ago
Latinos are not one group but an assortment of groups, who often feel that they have little in common except speaking Spanish to varying degrees of ability and being treated as outsiders by Anglos and African-Americans. Those who have fled socialism are more likely to vote Republican than those who have not.
Christopher Barclay
2 years ago
The main opponents of the Democrat ‘rainbow coalition’ are African-Americans who reject the implication that they are immigrants.
Chris Wheatley
2 years ago
Figure 2 shows that white Catholics are becoming more Republican. Figure 3 shows that Hispanic (Catholics?) are becoming less Democrat and more Independent, whatever that means.
Terrible article. Lots of graphs which don’t mean much. How many white Catholics are there? Are the Hispanics mainly Catholics? What does Independent mean in US politics?
When you register to vote in the US you are given the choice to register as a member of a party. This is usually Democrat or Republican but there are many others, all tiny. (Ironically, one is the Independent party, which like all others, will prevent you from being counted as Independent.) Libertarian is the biggest which has maybe 1% of registered voters. If you chose not to register as a member of a party you are “unaffiliated” which is counted as “Independent” in polls. Here in America, we like to keep things simple.
You raise an interesting point and I don’t have all the answers, but consider this. If once upon a time–50 years ago? 60?– 45% of the American electorate were Democrats and 45% Republicans, it made sense to talk about the 2 party system, “both sides of the aisle.
BUT at some point things shifted and now the shift is enormous. I’m making up the figures but you’ll get the idea. Suppose in 1980 40% were Ds, 40% Rs–that leaves 20% other. Maybe in 2000 its as 30-30, and now maybe it is 20-20, which means that 60% of the American electorate is not affiliated with a “major” party, yet the discussion, in the MSM and in general, continually circles back to the 2 party system, both sides of the aisle. It’s becoming increasingly irrelevant.
American voters are essentially forced to choose a party if they want to “make a difference,” in that primaries usually determine the elections–in some cases, such as NYC it’s close to 100%–so voters who are not registered as Ds or Rs don’t get a say. This is a crazy system that no longer works, if it ever did.
I’m a independent voter–though my vote from abroad didn’t count–that’s another story. I hate the Ds and I hate the Rs only slightly less, because the Rs don’t hate straight white men.
Back in the day many Catholic American voted democrat and democrats opposed easier abortion. The Republicans just regarded it as a personal family issue for women and their doctor and no business of the state. Then the big switcheroo and Democrats became particularly in favour of abortion access and became somewhat less appealing to many Catholics tho voting habits die hard.
Any discussion of race or religion in relation to the Democrats has to take into account the pre and post civil rights Democratic party. Pre it was dominated by Southern segregationists and socially conservative ethnic voters and labour unions. After, not so much. An attempt by so called Dixiecrats to keep a Democratic foot in the segregationist camp was pretty short lived. But the Dixiecrat approach was an important pre-civil rights strand of the Democratic Party.
Many blacks particularly in the South and if they had the vote regarded the Republican Party as their natural allies. Lincoln was a Republican and it was the Democratic Party that defended slavery and was responsible for segregation and Jim Crow laws.
More proof (as if it were needed) that the modern Left are the Racist Whitesplainers of our time.
Hispanics need not worry – they will no doubt be upgraded in due course to Honorary Whites (as with Indo-Chinese Asians), in order that white woke liberals can preserve the purity of their BAME victimhood concept.
Hispanics are nothing like African Americans. Democrats have always been the party of immigrants. Italian Americans, Irish Americans have always had an affinity for Democrats. The assumption is that Hispanics would follow. A great many have, but not the extent that like African Americans who are a 90% reliable Democrat vote. Hispanics emigrate here for our economic security. For the freedoms to build your own economic success. They start businesses they work very hard.
They freely enter the US diaspora and integrate well. A second or third generation son or daughter of immigrants often want to protect what economic success they have achieved. In that respect the Democratic Socialists ideas and language are actually driving away Hispanics. Naturally a conservative culture…..they are just as repulsed by white liberal fragility, anti racist, BLM, Antifa behavior.
Immigrants are generally moving to improve their chances in life.
Allowing themselves to become a captive vote seems contrary to that goal.
I was delighted but nearly fell on the floor when my Ecuadorian house cleaner told me she was voting for Trump / Republican. Supposedly, her friends gave her grief for that move but I suspect she also planted a seed in their head that it’s okay to leave the Democrat-Dependency-Plantation and really become a free thinking, uncensored and freedom-loving citizen.
How on earth does your Ecuadorian cleaner get to vote for the US President?
Missing from the discussion is the factor of the Trump personality on the Hispanic vote. It may not be Trump’s issues that drove the increase in 2016 and 2020 as much as Trump the man.
Trump is a character out of a telenovela, the typical padrone of Spanish culture. Brash, boastful, domineering, with wealth he flaunts and a beautiful, smiling and silent wife by his side, he is an archetypal figure of immense personal appeal to Hispanics. Men want to be like him, women want to be near him.
Anyone who addresses the increased vote for GOP president from 2012 to 2020 without taking those qualities into account is being deliberately obtuse. Try to imagine Mitt Romney at a Mixed Martial Arts championship fight — C’mon, man!
Virginia is the strongest indicator so far of a true shift, if the GOP poll is accurate.
However, Hispanics are a plurality of voters in California and New Mexico. Until I start to see election results for the state legislatures and congressional districts in those states and others reflect this outlier poll and optimistic article, I’m going to remain skeptical of the long-forecasted conservative Hispanics.
Not quite sure of the macho idea really being a motivating factor. Trump stressed jobs, not give aways. Trump noted that jobs lost to immigrants was ruining the ability of many to get ahead as their jobs got taken by a person who would work for less, no questions asked bosses. The Republican party fails to take advantage of family values, education and jobs approach to minorities. Changes in tax policy don’t matter but jobs do. NM and CA are remarkably strange places for Republicans who seem unable to build a message that end heritage vote patterns. Maybe them can improve but have largely given up.
I object to much of this article, especially adopting the language of the woke. What is an Hispanic? What is a minority? Are you still a minority if no one group makes up a majority? The word “Hispanic” is a word made up out of thin air by the federal government (evil personified), for a census some decades ago. Latinx is similar, though it was made up by the woke (also evil personified) more recently. “Minorities” is another term that is increasingly irrelevant–though still widely used–for woke reasons. What’s wrong with just being American?
To combat this Orwellian usage, I’ve invented a term that I would like see widely used instead of “people of color, or “poc” (is it racist that I didn’t capitalize it?). My preferred term is COW, “Citizen of Wakanda.” All so-called minorities and “poc” can be COWs, but there are graduations of citizenship. It’s obvious that those with the darkest skin are first class citizens, blacks with lighter skin can be second class citizens, brown people third class, and Asians maybe fourth class citizens, (because they are “white adjacent,” [whatever that means], and use “white supremacist thinking” to get ahead. So they can be the equivalent of BNOs–the British gradiation of citizenship.
And what is the point of tracing the supposed political evolution of white Catholics? There is such a huge schism in the American Catholic Church, which employs, in theory, an extreme social justice dogma similar to communism that has much in common with the Jewish tradition of social justice wokeness. “Is the pope Catholic?” is now a serious question in America and around the world. The King of the paedos goes to Cyrpus and hugs the invaders, while American Catholics see the Southern border–I mean Southern region–there is no border, being overrun by invading hordes and say “Enough Already!” Maybe the King of the Paedos is not so infallible after all!
In summary, let’s stop slicing and dicing what is an American. The alternative is the former Yugoslavia and current Lebanon, which did exactly that. How did that end for those countries?
Latinos are not one group but an assortment of groups, who often feel that they have little in common except speaking Spanish to varying degrees of ability and being treated as outsiders by Anglos and African-Americans. Those who have fled socialism are more likely to vote Republican than those who have not.
The main opponents of the Democrat ‘rainbow coalition’ are African-Americans who reject the implication that they are immigrants.
Figure 2 shows that white Catholics are becoming more Republican. Figure 3 shows that Hispanic (Catholics?) are becoming less Democrat and more Independent, whatever that means.
Terrible article. Lots of graphs which don’t mean much. How many white Catholics are there? Are the Hispanics mainly Catholics? What does Independent mean in US politics?
When you register to vote in the US you are given the choice to register as a member of a party. This is usually Democrat or Republican but there are many others, all tiny. (Ironically, one is the Independent party, which like all others, will prevent you from being counted as Independent.) Libertarian is the biggest which has maybe 1% of registered voters. If you chose not to register as a member of a party you are “unaffiliated” which is counted as “Independent” in polls. Here in America, we like to keep things simple.
You raise an interesting point and I don’t have all the answers, but consider this. If once upon a time–50 years ago? 60?– 45% of the American electorate were Democrats and 45% Republicans, it made sense to talk about the 2 party system, “both sides of the aisle.
BUT at some point things shifted and now the shift is enormous. I’m making up the figures but you’ll get the idea. Suppose in 1980 40% were Ds, 40% Rs–that leaves 20% other. Maybe in 2000 its as 30-30, and now maybe it is 20-20, which means that 60% of the American electorate is not affiliated with a “major” party, yet the discussion, in the MSM and in general, continually circles back to the 2 party system, both sides of the aisle. It’s becoming increasingly irrelevant.
American voters are essentially forced to choose a party if they want to “make a difference,” in that primaries usually determine the elections–in some cases, such as NYC it’s close to 100%–so voters who are not registered as Ds or Rs don’t get a say. This is a crazy system that no longer works, if it ever did.
I’m a independent voter–though my vote from abroad didn’t count–that’s another story. I hate the Ds and I hate the Rs only slightly less, because the Rs don’t hate straight white men.
Back in the day many Catholic American voted democrat and democrats opposed easier abortion. The Republicans just regarded it as a personal family issue for women and their doctor and no business of the state. Then the big switcheroo and Democrats became particularly in favour of abortion access and became somewhat less appealing to many Catholics tho voting habits die hard.
Any discussion of race or religion in relation to the Democrats has to take into account the pre and post civil rights Democratic party. Pre it was dominated by Southern segregationists and socially conservative ethnic voters and labour unions. After, not so much. An attempt by so called Dixiecrats to keep a Democratic foot in the segregationist camp was pretty short lived. But the Dixiecrat approach was an important pre-civil rights strand of the Democratic Party.
Many blacks particularly in the South and if they had the vote regarded the Republican Party as their natural allies. Lincoln was a Republican and it was the Democratic Party that defended slavery and was responsible for segregation and Jim Crow laws.