Viewing Europe, particularly the EU nations, from across the pond, my sense is there’s the beginning of what I might call a psychological Brexit–a gradual detachment from the spirit of the EU.
Europe was clearly troubled by the election of Trump and I think Europeans are now very wary of toxic US identity politics infecting other Western countries. They are gradually drifting away from US influence and I can’t say I blame them.
My sense is EU members don’t necessarily want to destroy the EU but they want to find some way of asserting some level of national control (and perhaps identity) within the confines of the EU. So we’ll see more deals, like Nord Stream 2, driven by national, not EU, interest and a gradual weakening of the alliance. Maybe that’s not a bad thing for either the individual countries or the future stability of the EU.
Fair points. But EU relations with Russia, although potentially improvable by such unilateral detente, will also be subjected at any point to Moscow’s whim. Whim has entered US-EU relations too, but there are more remedy options for crises.
And fitting in with this slow mutual US-EU detachment, it looks to me, is the unspoken European desire to reach an accomodation with China, and that is much easier if they also reach an accomodation Russia. The European nations, apart from the UK are less wary of China then I would expect, and even the UK, though wary, wants to continue doing business with China – as recent messaging out of the government here shows on the back of the recent breakdown of City access to EU markets negotiations with the EU. I personally think this European stance is naive, but what do I know.
It is high time for the US to withdraw all military forces from Germany and expel Germany from NATO. Nothing personal. It will give the country its independence back, and relieve the United States of the burden of an unwanted alliance.
Trump desperately tried to withdraw. The huge military hospital would hold some of that back, but Trump wanted the rest to move to Poland. At least the Poles were pro-American whilst the Germans have largely decided being anti-American was cool. Perhaps resentment at being saved many years ago brought back memories or perhaps being criticized for not really wanting to actually use weapons in Afghanistan as a NATO member hurt feelings. Or perhaps being the EU strongman wanted the US out of the way. Who knows what the future will bring with new governments all around.
Matt B
2 years ago
There is a wider eastward drift among EU states, and not all of them former Warsaw Pact. Russian-influenced votes may stack up in EU institutions against less-aligned state interests. The question of adherence to Art 5 raised by the (removed?) comment is pertinent.
Last edited 2 years ago by Matt B
Ian Barton
2 years ago
Interesting article, but to say ….
“nobody raised an eyebrow when Merkel’s government declared an end to nuclear energy in Germany following the Fukushima disaster of 2011.”
…. is way off the mark.
It was roundly criticised as both an environmental and strategic political error.
The decision to phase out nuclear power was taken under Schroeder’s govt in 2000, not by Merkel in 2011. Fukushima just brought forward the plans already in place.
Earl King
2 years ago
I’ve posited this for a decade. No way Germany supports Article 5 if Russia walks in to Estonia or any of Baltic States. I am only slightly less concerned if Russia invades Poland. Germany is not ever going to war.
Viewing Europe, particularly the EU nations, from across the pond, my sense is there’s the beginning of what I might call a psychological Brexit–a gradual detachment from the spirit of the EU.
Europe was clearly troubled by the election of Trump and I think Europeans are now very wary of toxic US identity politics infecting other Western countries. They are gradually drifting away from US influence and I can’t say I blame them.
My sense is EU members don’t necessarily want to destroy the EU but they want to find some way of asserting some level of national control (and perhaps identity) within the confines of the EU. So we’ll see more deals, like Nord Stream 2, driven by national, not EU, interest and a gradual weakening of the alliance. Maybe that’s not a bad thing for either the individual countries or the future stability of the EU.
Fair points. But EU relations with Russia, although potentially improvable by such unilateral detente, will also be subjected at any point to Moscow’s whim. Whim has entered US-EU relations too, but there are more remedy options for crises.
And fitting in with this slow mutual US-EU detachment, it looks to me, is the unspoken European desire to reach an accomodation with China, and that is much easier if they also reach an accomodation Russia. The European nations, apart from the UK are less wary of China then I would expect, and even the UK, though wary, wants to continue doing business with China – as recent messaging out of the government here shows on the back of the recent breakdown of City access to EU markets negotiations with the EU. I personally think this European stance is naive, but what do I know.
Indeed
It is high time for the US to withdraw all military forces from Germany and expel Germany from NATO. Nothing personal. It will give the country its independence back, and relieve the United States of the burden of an unwanted alliance.
Trump desperately tried to withdraw. The huge military hospital would hold some of that back, but Trump wanted the rest to move to Poland. At least the Poles were pro-American whilst the Germans have largely decided being anti-American was cool. Perhaps resentment at being saved many years ago brought back memories or perhaps being criticized for not really wanting to actually use weapons in Afghanistan as a NATO member hurt feelings. Or perhaps being the EU strongman wanted the US out of the way. Who knows what the future will bring with new governments all around.
There is a wider eastward drift among EU states, and not all of them former Warsaw Pact. Russian-influenced votes may stack up in EU institutions against less-aligned state interests. The question of adherence to Art 5 raised by the (removed?) comment is pertinent.
Interesting article, but to say ….
“nobody raised an eyebrow when Merkel’s government declared an end to nuclear energy in Germany following the Fukushima disaster of 2011.”
…. is way off the mark.
It was roundly criticised as both an environmental and strategic political error.
The decision to phase out nuclear power was taken under Schroeder’s govt in 2000, not by Merkel in 2011. Fukushima just brought forward the plans already in place.
I’ve posited this for a decade. No way Germany supports Article 5 if Russia walks in to Estonia or any of Baltic States. I am only slightly less concerned if Russia invades Poland. Germany is not ever going to war.