I almost wholly agree, with the “almost” merely denoting that I’d go further than the author and declare Brutalism to be exactly what it sounds and looks like to everyone who must live near one of its examples – an assault upon their own existence.
Get rid of every last damn one of them, but take lots of photographs – lest we forget.
They look miles better in photographs (and those artists drawings where people are always floating around in sunshine) than reality…one that went recently in Gateshead had some uses, it looked good when Michael Caine threw Alf Roberts (well..same actor) off it in Get Carter.
But really it was an ugly massive lump.
But getting a building into an iconic film is one way to give them a gloss and gain hipster fans (even though it didn’t work for the old Gateshead car park)
We managed to destroy 38 out of our 60* great Medieval churches, so that shouldn’t be too difficult.
(* Cathedrals, Monasteries etc.)
ARNAUD ALMARIC
2 years ago
You must remember that most of the architects and so called town planners of the 60’s were, proud, card carrying comrades of the Communist Party.
The damage they wrought made Adolph & Co look like mere amateurs..
R Wright
2 years ago
If you’d told someone in the 19th century that one day Britain would let loose Brazilian and German Marxists loose on their city centres in order to effect social experiments on ordinary working people they would have laughed you out the room. Cities like Hull were destroyed by these arrogant utopianists.
Allison Barrows
2 years ago
There is a brutalist building at a local college – an arts center, if you can believe it – where I worked for a mercifully short time. Hideous inside and out, it was also weirdly designed and inefficient, with loads of wasted space and rooms so disconnected from each other that you were left wondering if it wasn’t the result of some student project. The job there was similarly incoherent and when I left that concrete monstrosity for the last time it was with the relief of a just-released prisoner.
I think people like streets and that kind of architecture…brutalist and any modern massive building destroys the street..and the *plaza spaces* become wind swept, rubbish dump spaces that nobody wants to be in.
If they weren’t that, you can bet your boots Hampstead’s leafy streets would have been razed, and massive concrete blocks thrown around with walkways and ramps for the new gentry to live in …But they are, and Hampstead hasn’t been.
David Woolley
2 years ago
Brutalism taught us that architecture matters. You live in a horrible place, you work in a horrible place, you become a hospital administrator.
The use of the word ‘monstrosity’ reminds me that when I was growing up, more than 60 years ago, with no interest in architecture, I learnt from listening to grown-ups that the word ‘Victorian’ applied to a building was always followed by the word ‘monstrosity’.
Agreed but it’s much better inside, and a vast improvement on the ‘old reading room’.
William Shaw
2 years ago
Architects and their egos have a lot to answer for.
AC Harper
2 years ago
I was sad when the Tricorn Centre (see Tricorn Centre on Wikipedia) in Portsmouth was demolished. It was attractive brutalist architecture (from the outside) but I understand that it was unpleasant to work or shop there.
It’s all about surfaces and quality of materials. Who knew that concrete looks terrible in a cold wet northern climate?
Sean Penley
2 years ago
During his term Trump signed an executive order for federal agencies to go back to using classical styles for any new buildings they funded. According to polls the classical styles were heavily favored by the population at large and even across the political divide. So of course Biden revoked that order during his first month. Back to brutalist for federal construction projects
I would suggest the term vulgar is for the architects to argue over in this case. I think most people just like the idea of a building that looks nice. The state capitols as well as the older federal buildings look nice. The newer brutalist style look ugly. I don’t think most people care any further than that, nor do I think that’s a bad thing.
Pretty ironic using Roman features in a democracy? The ghastly romanesque blob of the Virginia state capitol was appropriate I guess since both were slave based societies. As for houses such as Arlington. Ditto. Absurdly hyperbolic.
Linda Hutchinson
2 years ago
Bill Bryson had a name for this: when speaking of a particularly terrible “modern” building erected in Savannah, Georgia, before a stop was put to it, he refered to it as the “f*ck you, Savannah” style of architecture.
I actually like a lot of modern architecture and these faux Tudor types of building make me cringe. However, these brutalist structures gave modern architecture such a bad name that many people just rejected it all out of hand, which is a great pity because it can be stunning when done properly, with sympathy for its surroundings and its purpose.
All about materials. Brutalist concrete is horrible. Our county town- medieval and Georgian on three sides of market and central square. Ancient corn exchange on one corner. Council offices on one side of square. Brutalist nightmare. Visitors gaze in disbelief.
Modernist architecture done well with great materials is lovely in the right context.
Dapple Grey
2 years ago
I think that many – most, even – of those in charge of commissioning these appalling buildings didn’t necessarily like them but they knew Tories didn’t like them and that was a good enough reason to build them.
Naturally, they didn’t live in tower blocks themselves.
Richard Slack
2 years ago
The decision to demolish Robin Hood Gardens was taken in 2017, it is not totally gone yet but it will as the remaining tenants are decanted, I can see it still from my flat in Poplar. Yes it failed although part of the failure was poor construction and another part the appalling site overlooking the Blackwall Tunnel Approach Road. It should be remembered though that it replaced Grosvenor Buildings, an appalling Victorian slum tenement block. (you can find it on line). However from my window also I can see Balfron Tower, designed by Erno Goldfinger. It works well. There is modernist architecture and modernist architecture just as there were fine Victorian buildings and squalid Victorian slums
William Shaw
2 years ago
A surprisingly large number of buildings in Washington, DC are brutalist. All the others look like Greek or Roman temples. It’s a very strange mix.
William Shaw
1 year ago
I’d like to add to the list of sites that should be demolished.
Queen Elizabeth Hall, part of the Southbank Centre, should be eradicated.
It’s a hideous eyesore.
Nicky Samengo-Turner
2 years ago
First signs postwar than the lower middles, with their complete lack of aesthetics and sense of style were taking over…they now are walking equivalents of these tastless eyesores in their white terylene shirts, shrunken acrylic rayon suits and pointy shoes…. as Government ministers… viz Shapps and Raab et al. ….
They weren’t from the lower middle classes at all. They tended to be well feted exiles from continental and/or third world countries, and highly respected by the British establishment.
Correct.
Amongst a cast of many, the most dangerous and odious were undoubtedly Harold Laski, Ralph Miliband & the truly dreadful Eric Hobsbawm. Their pernicious activity did more to poison this country than other triumvirate in our glorious history.
I almost wholly agree, with the “almost” merely denoting that I’d go further than the author and declare Brutalism to be exactly what it sounds and looks like to everyone who must live near one of its examples – an assault upon their own existence.
Get rid of every last damn one of them, but take lots of photographs – lest we forget.
They look miles better in photographs (and those artists drawings where people are always floating around in sunshine) than reality…one that went recently in Gateshead had some uses, it looked good when Michael Caine threw Alf Roberts (well..same actor) off it in Get Carter.
But really it was an ugly massive lump.
But getting a building into an iconic film is one way to give them a gloss and gain hipster fans (even though it didn’t work for the old Gateshead car park)
We managed to destroy 38 out of our 60* great Medieval churches, so that shouldn’t be too difficult.
(* Cathedrals, Monasteries etc.)
You must remember that most of the architects and so called town planners of the 60’s were, proud, card carrying comrades of the Communist Party.
The damage they wrought made Adolph & Co look like mere amateurs..
If you’d told someone in the 19th century that one day Britain would let loose Brazilian and German Marxists loose on their city centres in order to effect social experiments on ordinary working people they would have laughed you out the room. Cities like Hull were destroyed by these arrogant utopianists.
There is a brutalist building at a local college – an arts center, if you can believe it – where I worked for a mercifully short time. Hideous inside and out, it was also weirdly designed and inefficient, with loads of wasted space and rooms so disconnected from each other that you were left wondering if it wasn’t the result of some student project. The job there was similarly incoherent and when I left that concrete monstrosity for the last time it was with the relief of a just-released prisoner.
I think people like streets and that kind of architecture…brutalist and any modern massive building destroys the street..and the *plaza spaces* become wind swept, rubbish dump spaces that nobody wants to be in.
If they weren’t that, you can bet your boots Hampstead’s leafy streets would have been razed, and massive concrete blocks thrown around with walkways and ramps for the new gentry to live in …But they are, and Hampstead hasn’t been.
Brutalism taught us that architecture matters. You live in a horrible place, you work in a horrible place, you become a hospital administrator.
Or a teacher in a Comprehensive School.
The use of the word ‘monstrosity’ reminds me that when I was growing up, more than 60 years ago, with no interest in architecture, I learnt from listening to grown-ups that the word ‘Victorian’ applied to a building was always followed by the word ‘monstrosity’.
St Pancras Station being the prime example.
and by way of contrast, the brick cube next door, the British Library. A sort of monstrous eff off to the glory of St Pancras
Agreed but it’s much better inside, and a vast improvement on the ‘old reading room’.
Architects and their egos have a lot to answer for.
I was sad when the Tricorn Centre (see Tricorn Centre on Wikipedia) in Portsmouth was demolished. It was attractive brutalist architecture (from the outside) but I understand that it was unpleasant to work or shop there.
It was a wonderful building if you were a heroin addict.
You missed the ‘un’ before attractive…
It’s all about surfaces and quality of materials. Who knew that concrete looks terrible in a cold wet northern climate?
During his term Trump signed an executive order for federal agencies to go back to using classical styles for any new buildings they funded. According to polls the classical styles were heavily favored by the population at large and even across the political divide. So of course Biden revoked that order during his first month. Back to brutalist for federal construction projects
Romanesque modern buildings are idiotically vulgar though. It’s not the temple of Juno for goodness’ sake
I would suggest the term vulgar is for the architects to argue over in this case. I think most people just like the idea of a building that looks nice. The state capitols as well as the older federal buildings look nice. The newer brutalist style look ugly. I don’t think most people care any further than that, nor do I think that’s a bad thing.
Pretty ironic using Roman features in a democracy? The ghastly romanesque blob of the Virginia state capitol was appropriate I guess since both were slave based societies. As for houses such as Arlington. Ditto. Absurdly hyperbolic.
Bill Bryson had a name for this: when speaking of a particularly terrible “modern” building erected in Savannah, Georgia, before a stop was put to it, he refered to it as the “f*ck you, Savannah” style of architecture.
I actually like a lot of modern architecture and these faux Tudor types of building make me cringe. However, these brutalist structures gave modern architecture such a bad name that many people just rejected it all out of hand, which is a great pity because it can be stunning when done properly, with sympathy for its surroundings and its purpose.
I know it is April Fool’s Day, but could you give us a few of your favourite examples?
Helsinki main library.
Thank you, I don’t know it, but have always admired the Railway Station.
However having ‘googled’ it, I can see what you mean.
All about materials. Brutalist concrete is horrible. Our county town- medieval and Georgian on three sides of market and central square. Ancient corn exchange on one corner. Council offices on one side of square. Brutalist nightmare. Visitors gaze in disbelief.
‘They’ were trying to build “A Brave New World” and failed abysmally, leaving us to bear the cost.
Modernist architecture done well with great materials is lovely in the right context.
I think that many – most, even – of those in charge of commissioning these appalling buildings didn’t necessarily like them but they knew Tories didn’t like them and that was a good enough reason to build them.
Naturally, they didn’t live in tower blocks themselves.
The decision to demolish Robin Hood Gardens was taken in 2017, it is not totally gone yet but it will as the remaining tenants are decanted, I can see it still from my flat in Poplar. Yes it failed although part of the failure was poor construction and another part the appalling site overlooking the Blackwall Tunnel Approach Road. It should be remembered though that it replaced Grosvenor Buildings, an appalling Victorian slum tenement block. (you can find it on line). However from my window also I can see Balfron Tower, designed by Erno Goldfinger. It works well. There is modernist architecture and modernist architecture just as there were fine Victorian buildings and squalid Victorian slums
A surprisingly large number of buildings in Washington, DC are brutalist. All the others look like Greek or Roman temples. It’s a very strange mix.
I’d like to add to the list of sites that should be demolished.
Queen Elizabeth Hall, part of the Southbank Centre, should be eradicated.
It’s a hideous eyesore.
First signs postwar than the lower middles, with their complete lack of aesthetics and sense of style were taking over…they now are walking equivalents of these tastless eyesores in their white terylene shirts, shrunken acrylic rayon suits and pointy shoes…. as Government ministers… viz Shapps and Raab et al. ….
They weren’t from the lower middle classes at all. They tended to be well feted exiles from continental and/or third world countries, and highly respected by the British establishment.
Correct.
Amongst a cast of many, the most dangerous and odious were undoubtedly Harold Laski, Ralph Miliband & the truly dreadful Eric Hobsbawm. Their pernicious activity did more to poison this country than other triumvirate in our glorious history.
We shall have to discuss this further.