“the real reason people are conservative is that they are attached to the things they love.” – well said.
Peter Johnson
1 year ago
“the real reason people are conservative is that they are attached to the things they love.” – well said.
Warren Trees
1 year ago
“It is an assault against the fundamental principles of civilisation, and we cannot allow the law of the strongest to overcome the strength of law.”
No truer words were ever spoken, but when we abandon the concept of truth, as we have done in the West, the only ones who will win are the strongest.
It is not that we abandoned truth in the west it is that the truth of our insincerity and hypocrisy has been revealed finally.
Warren Trees
1 year ago
“It is an assault against the fundamental principles of civilisation, and we cannot allow the law of the strongest to overcome the strength of law.”
No truer words were ever spoken, but when we abandon the concept of truth, as we have done in the West, the only ones who will win are the strongest.
j watson
1 year ago
Darling of the European Right – well said, really well said.
That’s an interesting one for Orban or even Le Pen perhaps to follow.
Orban never will. It seems that Meloni has principles, something Orban has none outside hunger for money and power. Putin has a firm hold on him anyway. No one knows what the real reason behind his pro-Russia stance is. Probably some personal business interest, possibly money-laundering.
Orban never will. It seems that Meloni has principles, something Orban has none outside hunger for money and power. Putin has a firm hold on him anyway. No one knows what the real reason behind his pro-Russia stance is. Probably some personal business interest, possibly money-laundering.
j watson
1 year ago
Darling of the European Right – well said, really well said.
That’s an interesting one for Orban or even Le Pen perhaps to follow.
laurence scaduto
1 year ago
Meloni is an excellent speaker. I saw a video of a campaign speech, with English sub-titles, in which she extolled the value of family versus neo-liberalism, somewhere-ism versus anywhere-ism. Very moving.
I wonder: was this one delivered in English? It’s an excellent speech, with wonderful quotes. She might be the beginning of something good,I just hope she doesn’t succumb to Davos-syndrome.
The memo was no doubt written in English in Washington
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laurence scaduto
1 year ago
Meloni is an excellent speaker. I saw a video of a campaign speech, with English sub-titles, in which she extolled the value of family versus neo-liberalism, somewhere-ism versus anywhere-ism. Very moving.
I wonder: was this one delivered in English? It’s an excellent speech, with wonderful quotes. She might be the beginning of something good,I just hope she doesn’t succumb to Davos-syndrome.
martin logan
1 year ago
Meloni is actually agreeing with Gorbachev’s idea of a “common European home.”
That’s really what’s being defended in Ukraine.
And a great shame, then, that an arsonist took over after him.
Jeffrey sachs noted that the west had no interest in bringing Russia into the western orbit as an independent player. It refused Russia then strategic help it poured willigly into Poland. Its goal was the destruction of Russia to keep the spoils and privilege of its imperialist past. Prevent emergence of rivals.This is freely noted in US annual documents that detail threats to its power. Read them. You dare call Putin an arsonist when the west has set fire to so much of the world over the centuries. Putin is just he that opposes the west. He is a true Conservative and nationalst unlike the likes of Meloni quoting Tolkien and no doubt Harry Potter. That is his crime for not being a Meloni a Sunak. A Johnson a Merkel a Hollande a South Korean leader singing American Pie like a trained monkey. That he is not.
Jeffrey sachs noted that the west had no interest in bringing Russia into the western orbit as an independent player. It refused Russia then strategic help it poured willigly into Poland. Its goal was the destruction of Russia to keep the spoils and privilege of its imperialist past. Prevent emergence of rivals.This is freely noted in US annual documents that detail threats to its power. Read them. You dare call Putin an arsonist when the west has set fire to so much of the world over the centuries. Putin is just he that opposes the west. He is a true Conservative and nationalst unlike the likes of Meloni quoting Tolkien and no doubt Harry Potter. That is his crime for not being a Meloni a Sunak. A Johnson a Merkel a Hollande a South Korean leader singing American Pie like a trained monkey. That he is not.
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martin logan
1 year ago
Meloni is actually agreeing with Gorbachev’s idea of a “common European home.”
That’s really what’s being defended in Ukraine.
And a great shame, then, that an arsonist took over after him.
Russell Sharpe
1 year ago
Very good. It’s only a shame she removed Sir Roger Scruton’s knighthood and awarded it instead to JRR Tolkien. How, umm, cavalier of her!
Russell Sharpe
1 year ago
Very good. It’s only a shame she removed Sir Roger Scruton’s knighthood and awarded it instead to JRR Tolkien. How, umm, cavalier of her!
Ian364737474
1 year ago
The original quote was “…nor the warrior for HIS glory…” (my emphasis)
Ian364737474
1 year ago
The original quote was “…nor the warrior for HIS glory…” (my emphasis)
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
“God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best.”*
(*V.)
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
“God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best.”*
(*V.)
UnHerd Reader
1 year ago
What nonsense. When did the West ever stand for real freedom? This is just empty rhetoric parroting the memo propaganda issued to all European and other vassals. The west was built on war conquest and slavery. It maintains it even so. The fact is Ukraine is not free or Liberal or democratic as it bans parties arrests politicians and it is kleptocratic as the pentagon papers show. She is no Conservative but feigns it while pushing globalist policies like the gay parenting bill..quotes of Churchill another guy who manifold crimes are ignored and Tolkien who was a good fiction writer and meloni knows a thing or two about selling fiction on behalf of her controllers. Just not with his panache.
Absolutely the West has stood for real freedom – not least when we stood against the tyrannies of fascism and Marxist-Leninism. Look at Eastern Europe now compared with forty years ago. Look at South Korea compared with its neighbour to the north. Look at Japan rather than China. That is certainly standing for something.
Absolutely the West has stood for real freedom – not least when we stood against the tyrannies of fascism and Marxist-Leninism. Look at Eastern Europe now compared with forty years ago. Look at South Korea compared with its neighbour to the north. Look at Japan rather than China. That is certainly standing for something.
UnHerd Reader
1 year ago
What nonsense. When did the West ever stand for real freedom? This is just empty rhetoric parroting the memo propaganda issued to all European and other vassals. The west was built on war conquest and slavery. It maintains it even so. The fact is Ukraine is not free or Liberal or democratic as it bans parties arrests politicians and it is kleptocratic as the pentagon papers show. She is no Conservative but feigns it while pushing globalist policies like the gay parenting bill..quotes of Churchill another guy who manifold crimes are ignored and Tolkien who was a good fiction writer and meloni knows a thing or two about selling fiction on behalf of her controllers. Just not with his panache.
“the real reason people are conservative is that they are attached to the things they love.” – well said.
“the real reason people are conservative is that they are attached to the things they love.” – well said.
“It is an assault against the fundamental principles of civilisation, and we cannot allow the law of the strongest to overcome the strength of law.”
No truer words were ever spoken, but when we abandon the concept of truth, as we have done in the West, the only ones who will win are the strongest.
It is not that we abandoned truth in the west it is that the truth of our insincerity and hypocrisy has been revealed finally.
It is not that we abandoned truth in the west it is that the truth of our insincerity and hypocrisy has been revealed finally.
“It is an assault against the fundamental principles of civilisation, and we cannot allow the law of the strongest to overcome the strength of law.”
No truer words were ever spoken, but when we abandon the concept of truth, as we have done in the West, the only ones who will win are the strongest.
Darling of the European Right – well said, really well said.
That’s an interesting one for Orban or even Le Pen perhaps to follow.
Orban never will. It seems that Meloni has principles, something Orban has none outside hunger for money and power. Putin has a firm hold on him anyway. No one knows what the real reason behind his pro-Russia stance is. Probably some personal business interest, possibly money-laundering.
You just peddle tropes about orban and putin. Nothing.you said was worth a comment
You just peddle tropes about orban and putin. Nothing.you said was worth a comment
Orban never will. It seems that Meloni has principles, something Orban has none outside hunger for money and power. Putin has a firm hold on him anyway. No one knows what the real reason behind his pro-Russia stance is. Probably some personal business interest, possibly money-laundering.
Darling of the European Right – well said, really well said.
That’s an interesting one for Orban or even Le Pen perhaps to follow.
Meloni is an excellent speaker. I saw a video of a campaign speech, with English sub-titles, in which she extolled the value of family versus neo-liberalism, somewhere-ism versus anywhere-ism. Very moving.
I wonder: was this one delivered in English? It’s an excellent speech, with wonderful quotes. She might be the beginning of something good,I just hope she doesn’t succumb to Davos-syndrome.
The memo was no doubt written in English in Washington
The memo was no doubt written in English in Washington
Meloni is an excellent speaker. I saw a video of a campaign speech, with English sub-titles, in which she extolled the value of family versus neo-liberalism, somewhere-ism versus anywhere-ism. Very moving.
I wonder: was this one delivered in English? It’s an excellent speech, with wonderful quotes. She might be the beginning of something good,I just hope she doesn’t succumb to Davos-syndrome.
Meloni is actually agreeing with Gorbachev’s idea of a “common European home.”
That’s really what’s being defended in Ukraine.
And a great shame, then, that an arsonist took over after him.
Jeffrey sachs noted that the west had no interest in bringing Russia into the western orbit as an independent player. It refused Russia then strategic help it poured willigly into Poland. Its goal was the destruction of Russia to keep the spoils and privilege of its imperialist past. Prevent emergence of rivals.This is freely noted in US annual documents that detail threats to its power. Read them. You dare call Putin an arsonist when the west has set fire to so much of the world over the centuries. Putin is just he that opposes the west. He is a true Conservative and nationalst unlike the likes of Meloni quoting Tolkien and no doubt Harry Potter. That is his crime for not being a Meloni a Sunak. A Johnson a Merkel a Hollande a South Korean leader singing American Pie like a trained monkey. That he is not.
Jeffrey sachs noted that the west had no interest in bringing Russia into the western orbit as an independent player. It refused Russia then strategic help it poured willigly into Poland. Its goal was the destruction of Russia to keep the spoils and privilege of its imperialist past. Prevent emergence of rivals.This is freely noted in US annual documents that detail threats to its power. Read them. You dare call Putin an arsonist when the west has set fire to so much of the world over the centuries. Putin is just he that opposes the west. He is a true Conservative and nationalst unlike the likes of Meloni quoting Tolkien and no doubt Harry Potter. That is his crime for not being a Meloni a Sunak. A Johnson a Merkel a Hollande a South Korean leader singing American Pie like a trained monkey. That he is not.
Meloni is actually agreeing with Gorbachev’s idea of a “common European home.”
That’s really what’s being defended in Ukraine.
And a great shame, then, that an arsonist took over after him.
Very good. It’s only a shame she removed Sir Roger Scruton’s knighthood and awarded it instead to JRR Tolkien. How, umm, cavalier of her!
Very good. It’s only a shame she removed Sir Roger Scruton’s knighthood and awarded it instead to JRR Tolkien. How, umm, cavalier of her!
The original quote was “…nor the warrior for HIS glory…” (my emphasis)
The original quote was “…nor the warrior for HIS glory…” (my emphasis)
“God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best.”*
(*V.)
“God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best.”*
(*V.)
What nonsense. When did the West ever stand for real freedom? This is just empty rhetoric parroting the memo propaganda issued to all European and other vassals. The west was built on war conquest and slavery. It maintains it even so. The fact is Ukraine is not free or Liberal or democratic as it bans parties arrests politicians and it is kleptocratic as the pentagon papers show. She is no Conservative but feigns it while pushing globalist policies like the gay parenting bill..quotes of Churchill another guy who manifold crimes are ignored and Tolkien who was a good fiction writer and meloni knows a thing or two about selling fiction on behalf of her controllers. Just not with his panache.
Absolutely the West has stood for real freedom – not least when we stood against the tyrannies of fascism and Marxist-Leninism. Look at Eastern Europe now compared with forty years ago. Look at South Korea compared with its neighbour to the north. Look at Japan rather than China. That is certainly standing for something.
Absolutely the West has stood for real freedom – not least when we stood against the tyrannies of fascism and Marxist-Leninism. Look at Eastern Europe now compared with forty years ago. Look at South Korea compared with its neighbour to the north. Look at Japan rather than China. That is certainly standing for something.
What nonsense. When did the West ever stand for real freedom? This is just empty rhetoric parroting the memo propaganda issued to all European and other vassals. The west was built on war conquest and slavery. It maintains it even so. The fact is Ukraine is not free or Liberal or democratic as it bans parties arrests politicians and it is kleptocratic as the pentagon papers show. She is no Conservative but feigns it while pushing globalist policies like the gay parenting bill..quotes of Churchill another guy who manifold crimes are ignored and Tolkien who was a good fiction writer and meloni knows a thing or two about selling fiction on behalf of her controllers. Just not with his panache.