The Chinese economy has always been shaky. Real estate speculation bolstered by untrammeled provincial borrowing and lending. Look at the disastrous decline of some Chinese real estate moguls. Sudden major ideological impositions on private enterprise. What happened to Baidu? Hesitation to invest in China is perfectly reasonable and prudent, and does not require wider deglobalization beliefs.
Walter Schwager
9 months ago
The Chinese economy has always been shaky. Real estate speculation bolstered by untrammeled provincial borrowing and lending. Look at the disastrous decline of some Chinese real estate moguls. Sudden major ideological impositions on private enterprise. What happened to Baidu? Hesitation to invest in China is perfectly reasonable and prudent, and does not require wider deglobalization beliefs.
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
9 months ago
“There are many forms of foreign investment, but one of the most important is (or perhaps was) the wholesale offshoring of the West’s industrial capacity. This mega-trend has changed all of our lives by flooding consumer markets with cheap goods, while degrading the productive side of our economies — and in particular the availability of well-paid jobs in manufacturing.
If this process is now coming to an end — or at least slowing to a crawl — then that’s a big deal.”
Maybe it is coming to an end because we have very little left to offshore except welfare and illegal immigrants
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
9 months ago
“There are many forms of foreign investment, but one of the most important is (or perhaps was) the wholesale offshoring of the West’s industrial capacity. This mega-trend has changed all of our lives by flooding consumer markets with cheap goods, while degrading the productive side of our economies — and in particular the availability of well-paid jobs in manufacturing.
If this process is now coming to an end — or at least slowing to a crawl — then that’s a big deal.”
Maybe it is coming to an end because we have very little left to offshore except welfare and illegal immigrants
Mark epperson
9 months ago
Deglobalising. Sounds wonderful! The world has finally realized globalization is the biggest scam in history by greedy finance, tech, and corporations in concert with politicians and bureaucrats. The low cost goods, read cheap, came at a steep price for the working folks of the world. Who would really sell out their country and communities for more money and power? Well, the list is long and if the real truth is that the Bidens were nothing but grifters, it will be time to play some real catch-up on the perpetrators. About time!
Last edited 9 months ago by Mark epperson
Mark epperson
9 months ago
Deglobalising. Sounds wonderful! The world has finally realized globalization is the biggest scam in history by greedy finance, tech, and corporations in concert with politicians and bureaucrats. The low cost goods, read cheap, came at a steep price for the working folks of the world. Who would really sell out their country and communities for more money and power? Well, the list is long and if the real truth is that the Bidens were nothing but grifters, it will be time to play some real catch-up on the perpetrators. About time!
Last edited 9 months ago by Mark epperson
Jim Veenbaas
9 months ago
Short, informative article. I appreciate the info.
But what’s this about? “Guilt-stricken liberals, subversive Leftists and Putin-loving populists delight in the rise of the non-Western powers and the various humiliations of the free world.”
I thought it was fairly self explanatory, in that there’s always been groups that like to talk up other countries while denigrating their own. Russia has always been a favourite target of these people, first by the hard left praising its communist regime (while ignoring the struggles of its population) during the days of the Soviet Union, and more recently by the online right who portray Putin as a strong leader standing up for masculinity. The fact none of these groups ever moved there, choosing instead to live in the freedom of the evil decadent West does expose the hypocrisy of their arguments
Truly, as someone who has traveled a lot, it pains me whenever I hear Americans who’ve never left their country painting it as the center of oppressive evil.
As much as I like Americans, many of them really do see themselves engaging in a struggle between good and evil.
Truly, as someone who has traveled a lot, it pains me whenever I hear Americans who’ve never left their country painting it as the center of oppressive evil.
As much as I like Americans, many of them really do see themselves engaging in a struggle between good and evil.
I thought it was fairly self explanatory, in that there’s always been groups that like to talk up other countries while denigrating their own. Russia has always been a favourite target of these people, first by the hard left praising its communist regime (while ignoring the struggles of its population) during the days of the Soviet Union, and more recently by the online right who portray Putin as a strong leader standing up for masculinity. The fact none of these groups ever moved there, choosing instead to live in the freedom of the evil decadent West does expose the hypocrisy of their arguments
Jim Veenbaas
9 months ago
Short, informative article. I appreciate the info.
But what’s this about? “Guilt-stricken liberals, subversive Leftists and Putin-loving populists delight in the rise of the non-Western powers and the various humiliations of the free world.”
Charles Stanhope
9 months ago
Where are all the comments?
Has Branagan ‘flagged’ them all as usual?
Charles Stanhope
9 months ago
Where are all the comments?
Has Branagan ‘flagged’ them all as usual?
Hardee Hodges
9 months ago
China is discovering that a centrally planned economy with many enterprises being state controlled is not a good formula for growth thus outside investment falling. While economic control allowed considerable investment in their military that too has become a warning for outside investors. Their export economy has produced a excess of wealth but at the expense of other nations where capital is less at risk and returns might be more secure. China is seeing a decline and has started some policy reversals but until their military reduces those policy changes may not be enough.
Hardee Hodges
9 months ago
China is discovering that a centrally planned economy with many enterprises being state controlled is not a good formula for growth thus outside investment falling. While economic control allowed considerable investment in their military that too has become a warning for outside investors. Their export economy has produced a excess of wealth but at the expense of other nations where capital is less at risk and returns might be more secure. China is seeing a decline and has started some policy reversals but until their military reduces those policy changes may not be enough.
Bob Rowlands
9 months ago
India is increasingly hoovering up purchases made via Amazon. Sport’s gear made in India or China – you choose.
Mr Sketerzen Bhoto
9 months ago
“ However, unlike India or Brazil, China has also continued to threaten war against a state with close ties to the West — in this case Taiwan.”
No more than when China was a favourite of the west. China has always claimed Taiwan, and vice versa
At the risk of getting downvoted for facts, Taiwan isn’t in fact an ally of the west. It’s not even recognised as a sovereign country by most. It exchanges no ambassadors with any western country. Both Taiwan and China claim jurisdiction over each other, and since the 70s the world has recognised the PRC. Only 13 largely tiny countries recognise Taiwan and the U.K. isn’t one of them.
You may be getting downvoted for facts that are non sequiturs. “Close ties” means trade, which in the case of Taiwan is critical trade in electronics – the fact that the US Formally recognizes the PRC and not Taiwan is insignificant, especially considering we might be in a shooting war defending that island in the near future.
No. Close ties means economic and primarily political ties.
I bet most Americans couldn’t find Taiwan on a map, and a large minority would have trouble finding China on a map. Unherd is hilarious – anti the MSM unless the MSM is pushing another neo conservative war against a country far far away. Hat tip – if the US wants to dominate a new American century then it needs far more immigration than it has already. You can have your conservatism or your imperialism – you can’t have both.
No. Close ties means economic and primarily political ties.
I bet most Americans couldn’t find Taiwan on a map, and a large minority would have trouble finding China on a map. Unherd is hilarious – anti the MSM unless the MSM is pushing another neo conservative war against a country far far away. Hat tip – if the US wants to dominate a new American century then it needs far more immigration than it has already. You can have your conservatism or your imperialism – you can’t have both.
You may be getting downvoted for facts that are non sequiturs. “Close ties” means trade, which in the case of Taiwan is critical trade in electronics – the fact that the US Formally recognizes the PRC and not Taiwan is insignificant, especially considering we might be in a shooting war defending that island in the near future.
Mr Sketerzen Bhoto
9 months ago
“ However, unlike India or Brazil, China has also continued to threaten war against a state with close ties to the West — in this case Taiwan.”
No more than when China was a favourite of the west. China has always claimed Taiwan, and vice versa
At the risk of getting downvoted for facts, Taiwan isn’t in fact an ally of the west. It’s not even recognised as a sovereign country by most. It exchanges no ambassadors with any western country. Both Taiwan and China claim jurisdiction over each other, and since the 70s the world has recognised the PRC. Only 13 largely tiny countries recognise Taiwan and the U.K. isn’t one of them.
As for the decline in china’s growth it’s above target as far as I can see.
Will K
9 months ago
The World is clearly dividing into East and West Blocs. The reason is also clear: Mr Biden is an aggressive President, relying on military and economic force rather than negotiation. It’s not the best arrangement, but it’s ok: the world is large enough to hold two rival, separate, antagonistic Blocs. Its the Cold War, again, written larger. That’s the world Mr Biden knows and prefers.
Last edited 9 months ago by Will K
Will K
9 months ago
The World is clearly dividing into East and West Blocs. The reason is also clear: Mr Biden is an aggressive President, relying on military and economic force rather than negotiation. It’s not the best arrangement, but it’s ok: the world is large enough to hold two rival, separate, antagonistic Blocs. Its the Cold War, again, written larger. That’s the world Mr Biden knows and prefers.
Last edited 9 months ago by Will K
Peter Branagan
9 months ago
This article is so bad, so full of racist hate baiting, it doesn’t deserve a comment!
Perhaps you are denying you are racist – even to yourself – so that whenever anything relating to race comes up, your subconscious is aroused and you have to outwardly deny what makes you uncomfortable about yourself.
Perhaps you are denying you are racist – even to yourself – so that whenever anything relating to race comes up, your subconscious is aroused and you have to outwardly deny what makes you uncomfortable about yourself.
The Chinese economy has always been shaky. Real estate speculation bolstered by untrammeled provincial borrowing and lending. Look at the disastrous decline of some Chinese real estate moguls. Sudden major ideological impositions on private enterprise. What happened to Baidu? Hesitation to invest in China is perfectly reasonable and prudent, and does not require wider deglobalization beliefs.
The Chinese economy has always been shaky. Real estate speculation bolstered by untrammeled provincial borrowing and lending. Look at the disastrous decline of some Chinese real estate moguls. Sudden major ideological impositions on private enterprise. What happened to Baidu? Hesitation to invest in China is perfectly reasonable and prudent, and does not require wider deglobalization beliefs.
“There are many forms of foreign investment, but one of the most important is (or perhaps was) the wholesale offshoring of the West’s industrial capacity. This mega-trend has changed all of our lives by flooding consumer markets with cheap goods, while degrading the productive side of our economies — and in particular the availability of well-paid jobs in manufacturing.
If this process is now coming to an end — or at least slowing to a crawl — then that’s a big deal.”
Maybe it is coming to an end because we have very little left to offshore except welfare and illegal immigrants
“There are many forms of foreign investment, but one of the most important is (or perhaps was) the wholesale offshoring of the West’s industrial capacity. This mega-trend has changed all of our lives by flooding consumer markets with cheap goods, while degrading the productive side of our economies — and in particular the availability of well-paid jobs in manufacturing.
If this process is now coming to an end — or at least slowing to a crawl — then that’s a big deal.”
Maybe it is coming to an end because we have very little left to offshore except welfare and illegal immigrants
Deglobalising. Sounds wonderful! The world has finally realized globalization is the biggest scam in history by greedy finance, tech, and corporations in concert with politicians and bureaucrats. The low cost goods, read cheap, came at a steep price for the working folks of the world. Who would really sell out their country and communities for more money and power? Well, the list is long and if the real truth is that the Bidens were nothing but grifters, it will be time to play some real catch-up on the perpetrators. About time!
Deglobalising. Sounds wonderful! The world has finally realized globalization is the biggest scam in history by greedy finance, tech, and corporations in concert with politicians and bureaucrats. The low cost goods, read cheap, came at a steep price for the working folks of the world. Who would really sell out their country and communities for more money and power? Well, the list is long and if the real truth is that the Bidens were nothing but grifters, it will be time to play some real catch-up on the perpetrators. About time!
Short, informative article. I appreciate the info.
But what’s this about? “Guilt-stricken liberals, subversive Leftists and Putin-loving populists delight in the rise of the non-Western powers and the various humiliations of the free world.”
I thought it was fairly self explanatory, in that there’s always been groups that like to talk up other countries while denigrating their own. Russia has always been a favourite target of these people, first by the hard left praising its communist regime (while ignoring the struggles of its population) during the days of the Soviet Union, and more recently by the online right who portray Putin as a strong leader standing up for masculinity. The fact none of these groups ever moved there, choosing instead to live in the freedom of the evil decadent West does expose the hypocrisy of their arguments
Truly, as someone who has traveled a lot, it pains me whenever I hear Americans who’ve never left their country painting it as the center of oppressive evil.
As much as I like Americans, many of them really do see themselves engaging in a struggle between good and evil.
Truly, as someone who has traveled a lot, it pains me whenever I hear Americans who’ve never left their country painting it as the center of oppressive evil.
As much as I like Americans, many of them really do see themselves engaging in a struggle between good and evil.
I thought it was fairly self explanatory, in that there’s always been groups that like to talk up other countries while denigrating their own. Russia has always been a favourite target of these people, first by the hard left praising its communist regime (while ignoring the struggles of its population) during the days of the Soviet Union, and more recently by the online right who portray Putin as a strong leader standing up for masculinity. The fact none of these groups ever moved there, choosing instead to live in the freedom of the evil decadent West does expose the hypocrisy of their arguments
Short, informative article. I appreciate the info.
But what’s this about? “Guilt-stricken liberals, subversive Leftists and Putin-loving populists delight in the rise of the non-Western powers and the various humiliations of the free world.”
Where are all the comments?
Has Branagan ‘flagged’ them all as usual?
Where are all the comments?
Has Branagan ‘flagged’ them all as usual?
China is discovering that a centrally planned economy with many enterprises being state controlled is not a good formula for growth thus outside investment falling. While economic control allowed considerable investment in their military that too has become a warning for outside investors. Their export economy has produced a excess of wealth but at the expense of other nations where capital is less at risk and returns might be more secure. China is seeing a decline and has started some policy reversals but until their military reduces those policy changes may not be enough.
China is discovering that a centrally planned economy with many enterprises being state controlled is not a good formula for growth thus outside investment falling. While economic control allowed considerable investment in their military that too has become a warning for outside investors. Their export economy has produced a excess of wealth but at the expense of other nations where capital is less at risk and returns might be more secure. China is seeing a decline and has started some policy reversals but until their military reduces those policy changes may not be enough.
India is increasingly hoovering up purchases made via Amazon. Sport’s gear made in India or China – you choose.
“ However, unlike India or Brazil, China has also continued to threaten war against a state with close ties to the West — in this case Taiwan.”
No more than when China was a favourite of the west. China has always claimed Taiwan, and vice versa
At the risk of getting downvoted for facts, Taiwan isn’t in fact an ally of the west. It’s not even recognised as a sovereign country by most. It exchanges no ambassadors with any western country. Both Taiwan and China claim jurisdiction over each other, and since the 70s the world has recognised the PRC. Only 13 largely tiny countries recognise Taiwan and the U.K. isn’t one of them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan–United_Kingdom_relations
Also
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-recognize-taiwan
As for the decline in china’s growth it’s above target as far as I can see.
You may be getting downvoted for facts that are non sequiturs. “Close ties” means trade, which in the case of Taiwan is critical trade in electronics – the fact that the US Formally recognizes the PRC and not Taiwan is insignificant, especially considering we might be in a shooting war defending that island in the near future.
No. Close ties means economic and primarily political ties.
I bet most Americans couldn’t find Taiwan on a map, and a large minority would have trouble finding China on a map. Unherd is hilarious – anti the MSM unless the MSM is pushing another neo conservative war against a country far far away. Hat tip – if the US wants to dominate a new American century then it needs far more immigration than it has already. You can have your conservatism or your imperialism – you can’t have both.
No. Close ties means economic and primarily political ties.
I bet most Americans couldn’t find Taiwan on a map, and a large minority would have trouble finding China on a map. Unherd is hilarious – anti the MSM unless the MSM is pushing another neo conservative war against a country far far away. Hat tip – if the US wants to dominate a new American century then it needs far more immigration than it has already. You can have your conservatism or your imperialism – you can’t have both.
You may be getting downvoted for facts that are non sequiturs. “Close ties” means trade, which in the case of Taiwan is critical trade in electronics – the fact that the US Formally recognizes the PRC and not Taiwan is insignificant, especially considering we might be in a shooting war defending that island in the near future.
“ However, unlike India or Brazil, China has also continued to threaten war against a state with close ties to the West — in this case Taiwan.”
No more than when China was a favourite of the west. China has always claimed Taiwan, and vice versa
At the risk of getting downvoted for facts, Taiwan isn’t in fact an ally of the west. It’s not even recognised as a sovereign country by most. It exchanges no ambassadors with any western country. Both Taiwan and China claim jurisdiction over each other, and since the 70s the world has recognised the PRC. Only 13 largely tiny countries recognise Taiwan and the U.K. isn’t one of them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan–United_Kingdom_relations
Also
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-recognize-taiwan
As for the decline in china’s growth it’s above target as far as I can see.
The World is clearly dividing into East and West Blocs. The reason is also clear: Mr Biden is an aggressive President, relying on military and economic force rather than negotiation. It’s not the best arrangement, but it’s ok: the world is large enough to hold two rival, separate, antagonistic Blocs. Its the Cold War, again, written larger. That’s the world Mr Biden knows and prefers.
The World is clearly dividing into East and West Blocs. The reason is also clear: Mr Biden is an aggressive President, relying on military and economic force rather than negotiation. It’s not the best arrangement, but it’s ok: the world is large enough to hold two rival, separate, antagonistic Blocs. Its the Cold War, again, written larger. That’s the world Mr Biden knows and prefers.
This article is so bad, so full of racist hate baiting, it doesn’t deserve a comment!
Seems like reasonable observations to me and quite gratifying to see China get what they deserve.
Say what? Where is the hate baiting? Calling China dictatorial?
Yet you couldn’t help yourself commenting could you Branagan you rather transparent Chinese stooge?
Perhaps you are denying you are racist – even to yourself – so that whenever anything relating to race comes up, your subconscious is aroused and you have to outwardly deny what makes you uncomfortable about yourself.
Racist, schmecist, and Hate, schmate.
…and yet, here you are…
Why post one then….?
Seems like reasonable observations to me and quite gratifying to see China get what they deserve.
Say what? Where is the hate baiting? Calling China dictatorial?
Yet you couldn’t help yourself commenting could you Branagan you rather transparent Chinese stooge?
Perhaps you are denying you are racist – even to yourself – so that whenever anything relating to race comes up, your subconscious is aroused and you have to outwardly deny what makes you uncomfortable about yourself.
Racist, schmecist, and Hate, schmate.
…and yet, here you are…
Why post one then….?
This article is so bad, so full of racist hate baiting, it doesn’t deserve a comment!