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James Westby
James Westby
1 year ago

Weren’t we being told last year that the war would lead to a catastrophic reduction in global wheat production and a resultant hiking of prices? Or did I just imagine that?

Mint Julip
Mint Julip
1 year ago
Reply to  James Westby

Well we’ve had the price rises, at least on the supermarket shelves and the animal feed stores. I seriously doubt, though, that the apparent glut will affect the price the consumer pays. It’s good to know that Ukrainians are able to shift their produce at last, and if it forces an overhaul of the Common Agricultural Policy then so much the better, but there will be much resistance to change in the tiny agricultural holdings in France. If the French don’t like it then it won’t happen.

martin logan
martin logan
1 year ago
Reply to  James Westby

You were told that that was Putin’s plan.
Once he took Kyiv, his goal was to control Europe via his gas pipelines, and control the rest of the world through cornering much of the world’s grain supply.
An ingenious plan.
But, like most ingenious plans, it failed in its execution. (March on Moscow, anyone?)
The lesson is: don’t try to carry out ingenious plans.

Last edited 1 year ago by martin logan
Mint Julip
Mint Julip
1 year ago
Reply to  James Westby

Well we’ve had the price rises, at least on the supermarket shelves and the animal feed stores. I seriously doubt, though, that the apparent glut will affect the price the consumer pays. It’s good to know that Ukrainians are able to shift their produce at last, and if it forces an overhaul of the Common Agricultural Policy then so much the better, but there will be much resistance to change in the tiny agricultural holdings in France. If the French don’t like it then it won’t happen.

martin logan
martin logan
1 year ago
Reply to  James Westby

You were told that that was Putin’s plan.
Once he took Kyiv, his goal was to control Europe via his gas pipelines, and control the rest of the world through cornering much of the world’s grain supply.
An ingenious plan.
But, like most ingenious plans, it failed in its execution. (March on Moscow, anyone?)
The lesson is: don’t try to carry out ingenious plans.

Last edited 1 year ago by martin logan
James Westby
James Westby
1 year ago

Weren’t we being told last year that the war would lead to a catastrophic reduction in global wheat production and a resultant hiking of prices? Or did I just imagine that?

Andy Iddon
Andy Iddon
1 year ago

Meanwhile, the Zelenskyy govt recently allowed foreign purchase of (up to 44% of) Ukrainian Farmland, with a queue of Arabian interests looking to take sovereignty (and China already lossessing 10% of the total acreage), in very real terms, of the land. Got to love the old “rules-based order” and its unquestionable correctness – laws can never be wrong, apparently!

Last edited 1 year ago by Andy Iddon
Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago
Reply to  Andy Iddon

This is common across Eastern Europe – foreign investors buying agricultural land. And not necessarily a bad thing – large modern farms require capital for equipment. Foreign owners may also provide better management and slowly help to erode the historic corruption in these countries (partly a legacy of the Soviet empire, partly cultural).
Many British farmers have diversified into Eastern Europe.
On the whole, this is a good thing.

Anna Bramwell
Anna Bramwell
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter B

I dont think corruption was endemic in CEE before the war, outside Romania. It was endemic in Sovietland as the empire’s control through terror began to fail. It was also the only way to survive, theft at all levels, stealing major resources in the outposts of empire, eg Central Asia, the Caucasus.

Anna Bramwell
Anna Bramwell
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter B

I dont think corruption was endemic in CEE before the war, outside Romania. It was endemic in Sovietland as the empire’s control through terror began to fail. It was also the only way to survive, theft at all levels, stealing major resources in the outposts of empire, eg Central Asia, the Caucasus.

Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago
Reply to  Andy Iddon

This is common across Eastern Europe – foreign investors buying agricultural land. And not necessarily a bad thing – large modern farms require capital for equipment. Foreign owners may also provide better management and slowly help to erode the historic corruption in these countries (partly a legacy of the Soviet empire, partly cultural).
Many British farmers have diversified into Eastern Europe.
On the whole, this is a good thing.

Andy Iddon
Andy Iddon
1 year ago

Meanwhile, the Zelenskyy govt recently allowed foreign purchase of (up to 44% of) Ukrainian Farmland, with a queue of Arabian interests looking to take sovereignty (and China already lossessing 10% of the total acreage), in very real terms, of the land. Got to love the old “rules-based order” and its unquestionable correctness – laws can never be wrong, apparently!

Last edited 1 year ago by Andy Iddon
Isabel Ward
Isabel Ward
1 year ago

Of course Ukrainian large farms are an inheritance from Soviet farming methods, ironically

Last edited 1 year ago by Isabel Ward
Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago
Reply to  Isabel Ward

It’s also the efficient way to farm. Not really something to criticise.

justin fisher
justin fisher
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter B

Efficiency can be addictive. That doesn’t mean there are no grounds for criticism whatsoever. Concentrated operations work great until they don’t. When they fail, the harm can be apocalyptic. America only started concentrating its farms 40 years ago along with everything else. We don’t know how this will work out for civilization. I’m only just now learning from this article how the farms in Ukraine mirror those in Kansas. I imagine it has to do with the nature of wheat farming on the steppes and plains, something which lends itself to standardized mechanization. Or maybe the global corporatists simply spread the gospel of Earl Butz and the Kochs there in the 90s. Most likely a bit of both.

justin fisher
justin fisher
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter B

Efficiency can be addictive. That doesn’t mean there are no grounds for criticism whatsoever. Concentrated operations work great until they don’t. When they fail, the harm can be apocalyptic. America only started concentrating its farms 40 years ago along with everything else. We don’t know how this will work out for civilization. I’m only just now learning from this article how the farms in Ukraine mirror those in Kansas. I imagine it has to do with the nature of wheat farming on the steppes and plains, something which lends itself to standardized mechanization. Or maybe the global corporatists simply spread the gospel of Earl Butz and the Kochs there in the 90s. Most likely a bit of both.

Anna Bramwell
Anna Bramwell
1 year ago
Reply to  Isabel Ward

Though Soviet large farms produced only about. 8% of its food, the rest coming from small peasant plots.

Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago
Reply to  Isabel Ward

It’s also the efficient way to farm. Not really something to criticise.

Anna Bramwell
Anna Bramwell
1 year ago
Reply to  Isabel Ward

Though Soviet large farms produced only about. 8% of its food, the rest coming from small peasant plots.

Isabel Ward
Isabel Ward
1 year ago

Of course Ukrainian large farms are an inheritance from Soviet farming methods, ironically

Last edited 1 year ago by Isabel Ward
Martin Layfield
Martin Layfield
1 year ago

Polish farmers can vote in Polish elections. Zelensky can’t. Law and Justice Party might hate Russia but they need the farmer votes more than they need Ukraine

Darena Dineva
Darena Dineva
1 year ago

I might be unpopular for saying this but these Polish ministers are right to prioritize their own country’s needs. Why should Polish farmers have to destroy thier grain because of imported Ukrainian grain? It takes quite a gall to stand up for national interests in the face of fierce EU opposition.

Darena Dineva
Darena Dineva
1 year ago

I might be unpopular for saying this but these Polish ministers are right to prioritize their own country’s needs. Why should Polish farmers have to destroy thier grain because of imported Ukrainian grain? It takes quite a gall to stand up for national interests in the face of fierce EU opposition.

Martin Layfield
Martin Layfield
1 year ago

Polish farmers can vote in Polish elections. Zelensky can’t. Law and Justice Party might hate Russia but they need the farmer votes more than they need Ukraine

Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago

Anything which finishes off the ludicrous CAP is progress.

Peter B
Peter B
1 year ago

Anything which finishes off the ludicrous CAP is progress.

Anna Bramwell
Anna Bramwell
1 year ago

More of an unfree Trade Association, really. The Commission broke its own rules , oddly.

Anna Bramwell
Anna Bramwell
1 year ago

More of an unfree Trade Association, really. The Commission broke its own rules , oddly.