This may be seen as a variation of that Chesterton quote. When people don’t believe in God, they’ll believe in anything. In this case in UK, as Christianity is departing, it seems that the gap it leaves behind is beginning to get filled by Islam albeit in an indirect way.
It would be quite interesting if we’d start seeing conversions into Islam from the population. King Charles himself had an interest for a while IIRC.
Islam is typically seen through a rather racial lens in discussions, but in fact it’s a universalist religion, its ethnic makeup (despite many in the West probably thinking them as “brown people” at least unconsciously) is rather varied between Arabic, African and Asian peoples.
Checking for what universalist means:
“Universalists believed it impossible that a loving God would elect only a portion of humankind to salvation and doom the rest to eternal punishment”
Islam is not a Christian sect, certainly not a Protestant one. It’d be a mistake to expect it to be. Is it universal? Certainly so. Few other other religions or societies historically (think racial segregation for Christianity in Northern America and parts of Europe, Brahmins/caste system in India, ethnic nature of Judaism, or ethnocentric forms of paganism or ethnic religions/societies – Iran/Japan/etc) have been nearly as inclusive as Islam.
Islam is not a Christian sect, certainly not a Protestant one. It’d be a mistake to expect it to be. Is it universal? Certainly so. Few other other religions or societies historically (think racial segregation for Christianity in Northern America and parts of Europe, Brahmins/caste system in India, ethnic nature of Judaism, or ethnocentric forms of paganism or ethnic religions/societies – Iran/Japan/etc) have been nearly as inclusive as Islam.
Checking for what universalist means:
“Universalists believed it impossible that a loving God would elect only a portion of humankind to salvation and doom the rest to eternal punishment”
It would be quite interesting if we’d start seeing conversions into Islam from the population. King Charles himself had an interest for a while IIRC.
Islam is typically seen through a rather racial lens in discussions, but in fact it’s a universalist religion, its ethnic makeup (despite many in the West probably thinking them as “brown people” at least unconsciously) is rather varied between Arabic, African and Asian peoples.
Twenty odd years ago I remember reading about an Islamic ‘tipping point’ whereby Islam reaching 10 percent in Britain would render it impossible to contain.
the latest census figures makes for chilling reading.
Twenty odd years ago I remember reading about an Islamic ‘tipping point’ whereby Islam reaching 10 percent in Britain would render it impossible to contain.
the latest census figures makes for chilling reading.
Emre S
1 year ago
This may be seen as a variation of that Chesterton quote. When people don’t believe in God, they’ll believe in anything. In this case in UK, as Christianity is departing, it seems that the gap it leaves behind is beginning to get filled by Islam albeit in an indirect way.
Gayle Rosenthal
1 year ago
Thank you, Sir John, for lending your expertise to this dangerous problem. What you lay out is absolute proof of what we see and intuit when we look at Muslim on Muslim violence, Muslim on Kafir violence, and hatred of Jews. The next step must be to appropriately delegitimize Islam and eliminate this influence in Europe and the Americas. Islamic colonisation is a forever project and needs to stopped in its tracks.
Thank you, Sir John, for lending your expertise to this dangerous problem. What you lay out is absolute proof of what we see and intuit when we look at Muslim on Muslim violence, Muslim on Kafir violence, and hatred of Jews. The next step must be to appropriately delegitimize Islam and eliminate this influence in Europe and the Americas. Islamic colonisation is a forever project and needs to stopped in its tracks.
Phil Bolton
1 year ago
A fascinating discussion from a very knowledgeable individual highlighting a real issue. I would love to think that politicians would see this and take note, but as was said, they don’t understand the issue and are not brave enough to take any corrective action.
Phil Bolton
1 year ago
A fascinating discussion from a very knowledgeable individual highlighting a real issue. I would love to think that politicians would see this and take note, but as was said, they don’t understand the issue and are not brave enough to take any corrective action.
Samuel Ross
1 year ago
Qatar funds Al Jazeera. ‘Nuff said.
Samuel Ross
1 year ago
Qatar funds Al Jazeera. ‘Nuff said.
Apple53 0
1 year ago
Given ownership clarity (UBO) is coming up repeatedly in concerns about financial crime and influence in the UK, Freddie could do an interview with an expert in this space, as progress has been made and is continuing.
Or at least there is an Unherd article to write…..
Apple53 0
1 year ago
Given ownership clarity (UBO) is coming up repeatedly in concerns about financial crime and influence in the UK, Freddie could do an interview with an expert in this space, as progress has been made and is continuing.
Or at least there is an Unherd article to write…..
Richard Turpin
1 year ago
Is this really a surprise? The biggest mosques in Europe are funded by the Saudis, the aim has, and always will be, to colonise and impose Islam on any part of the world that as yet, has not succumbed to its culture and doctrines. I’m afraid we’re way past containing its spread in the west, the genie is out the bottle, helped and encouraged by ignorant and rather stupid liberal idealogues that believe anything but the reality of Islam’s destructive incursion into western democracies. Reported population representations in the U.K are hugely underplayed to avoid potentially aggravated reality checks and with an ever confident, growing Islamic population that is virtually untouchable and beyond scrutiny and reproach, the game is over. The West and its utter greed and arrogance has not only got caught sleeping at the wheel, but it’s also taken our values, our position of influence, our cultural standards and most importantly, our national safety and security, and sold us down the river.
Richard Turpin
1 year ago
Is this really a surprise? The biggest mosques in Europe are funded by the Saudis, the aim has, and always will be, to colonise and impose Islam on any part of the world that as yet, has not succumbed to its culture and doctrines. I’m afraid we’re way past containing its spread in the west, the genie is out the bottle, helped and encouraged by ignorant and rather stupid liberal idealogues that believe anything but the reality of Islam’s destructive incursion into western democracies. Reported population representations in the U.K are hugely underplayed to avoid potentially aggravated reality checks and with an ever confident, growing Islamic population that is virtually untouchable and beyond scrutiny and reproach, the game is over. The West and its utter greed and arrogance has not only got caught sleeping at the wheel, but it’s also taken our values, our position of influence, our cultural standards and most importantly, our national safety and security, and sold us down the river.
F Hugh Eveleigh
1 year ago
I was gripped by this conversation. Sir John thoroughly knows his subject and the questions asked were to the point and directly ensured the findings were stated for us all to take note of. Top marks.
F Hugh Eveleigh
1 year ago
I was gripped by this conversation. Sir John thoroughly knows his subject and the questions asked were to the point and directly ensured the findings were stated for us all to take note of. Top marks.
This may be seen as a variation of that Chesterton quote. When people don’t believe in God, they’ll believe in anything. In this case in UK, as Christianity is departing, it seems that the gap it leaves behind is beginning to get filled by Islam albeit in an indirect way.
It might not be “indirect” for long.
It would be quite interesting if we’d start seeing conversions into Islam from the population. King Charles himself had an interest for a while IIRC.
Islam is typically seen through a rather racial lens in discussions, but in fact it’s a universalist religion, its ethnic makeup (despite many in the West probably thinking them as “brown people” at least unconsciously) is rather varied between Arabic, African and Asian peoples.
Checking for what universalist means:
“Universalists believed it impossible that a loving God would elect only a portion of humankind to salvation and doom the rest to eternal punishment”
Nope, that isn’t Islam.
Islam is not a Christian sect, certainly not a Protestant one. It’d be a mistake to expect it to be. Is it universal? Certainly so. Few other other religions or societies historically (think racial segregation for Christianity in Northern America and parts of Europe, Brahmins/caste system in India, ethnic nature of Judaism, or ethnocentric forms of paganism or ethnic religions/societies – Iran/Japan/etc) have been nearly as inclusive as Islam.
Islam is not a Christian sect, certainly not a Protestant one. It’d be a mistake to expect it to be. Is it universal? Certainly so. Few other other religions or societies historically (think racial segregation for Christianity in Northern America and parts of Europe, Brahmins/caste system in India, ethnic nature of Judaism, or ethnocentric forms of paganism or ethnic religions/societies – Iran/Japan/etc) have been nearly as inclusive as Islam.
And don’t forget European peoples (for example Bosnia, Herzegovina and Albania).
Checking for what universalist means:
“Universalists believed it impossible that a loving God would elect only a portion of humankind to salvation and doom the rest to eternal punishment”
Nope, that isn’t Islam.
And don’t forget European peoples (for example Bosnia, Herzegovina and Albania).
It would be quite interesting if we’d start seeing conversions into Islam from the population. King Charles himself had an interest for a while IIRC.
Islam is typically seen through a rather racial lens in discussions, but in fact it’s a universalist religion, its ethnic makeup (despite many in the West probably thinking them as “brown people” at least unconsciously) is rather varied between Arabic, African and Asian peoples.
Twenty odd years ago I remember reading about an Islamic ‘tipping point’ whereby Islam reaching 10 percent in Britain would render it impossible to contain.
the latest census figures makes for chilling reading.
It might not be “indirect” for long.
Twenty odd years ago I remember reading about an Islamic ‘tipping point’ whereby Islam reaching 10 percent in Britain would render it impossible to contain.
the latest census figures makes for chilling reading.
This may be seen as a variation of that Chesterton quote. When people don’t believe in God, they’ll believe in anything. In this case in UK, as Christianity is departing, it seems that the gap it leaves behind is beginning to get filled by Islam albeit in an indirect way.
Thank you, Sir John, for lending your expertise to this dangerous problem. What you lay out is absolute proof of what we see and intuit when we look at Muslim on Muslim violence, Muslim on Kafir violence, and hatred of Jews. The next step must be to appropriately delegitimize Islam and eliminate this influence in Europe and the Americas. Islamic colonisation is a forever project and needs to stopped in its tracks.
Yes
Yes
Thank you, Sir John, for lending your expertise to this dangerous problem. What you lay out is absolute proof of what we see and intuit when we look at Muslim on Muslim violence, Muslim on Kafir violence, and hatred of Jews. The next step must be to appropriately delegitimize Islam and eliminate this influence in Europe and the Americas. Islamic colonisation is a forever project and needs to stopped in its tracks.
A fascinating discussion from a very knowledgeable individual highlighting a real issue. I would love to think that politicians would see this and take note, but as was said, they don’t understand the issue and are not brave enough to take any corrective action.
A fascinating discussion from a very knowledgeable individual highlighting a real issue. I would love to think that politicians would see this and take note, but as was said, they don’t understand the issue and are not brave enough to take any corrective action.
Qatar funds Al Jazeera. ‘Nuff said.
Qatar funds Al Jazeera. ‘Nuff said.
Given ownership clarity (UBO) is coming up repeatedly in concerns about financial crime and influence in the UK, Freddie could do an interview with an expert in this space, as progress has been made and is continuing.
Or at least there is an Unherd article to write…..
Given ownership clarity (UBO) is coming up repeatedly in concerns about financial crime and influence in the UK, Freddie could do an interview with an expert in this space, as progress has been made and is continuing.
Or at least there is an Unherd article to write…..
Is this really a surprise? The biggest mosques in Europe are funded by the Saudis, the aim has, and always will be, to colonise and impose Islam on any part of the world that as yet, has not succumbed to its culture and doctrines. I’m afraid we’re way past containing its spread in the west, the genie is out the bottle, helped and encouraged by ignorant and rather stupid liberal idealogues that believe anything but the reality of Islam’s destructive incursion into western democracies. Reported population representations in the U.K are hugely underplayed to avoid potentially aggravated reality checks and with an ever confident, growing Islamic population that is virtually untouchable and beyond scrutiny and reproach, the game is over. The West and its utter greed and arrogance has not only got caught sleeping at the wheel, but it’s also taken our values, our position of influence, our cultural standards and most importantly, our national safety and security, and sold us down the river.
Is this really a surprise? The biggest mosques in Europe are funded by the Saudis, the aim has, and always will be, to colonise and impose Islam on any part of the world that as yet, has not succumbed to its culture and doctrines. I’m afraid we’re way past containing its spread in the west, the genie is out the bottle, helped and encouraged by ignorant and rather stupid liberal idealogues that believe anything but the reality of Islam’s destructive incursion into western democracies. Reported population representations in the U.K are hugely underplayed to avoid potentially aggravated reality checks and with an ever confident, growing Islamic population that is virtually untouchable and beyond scrutiny and reproach, the game is over. The West and its utter greed and arrogance has not only got caught sleeping at the wheel, but it’s also taken our values, our position of influence, our cultural standards and most importantly, our national safety and security, and sold us down the river.
I was gripped by this conversation. Sir John thoroughly knows his subject and the questions asked were to the point and directly ensured the findings were stated for us all to take note of. Top marks.
I was gripped by this conversation. Sir John thoroughly knows his subject and the questions asked were to the point and directly ensured the findings were stated for us all to take note of. Top marks.