Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic had absolutely no “duty” to accept Syrian refugees. The conflict in Syria needed to be resolved in Syria, with the assistance of the Arab world, and Russia, which had been responsible for sustaining the vile Assad regime for so long. This situation is totally different, as Ukrainian refugees are unlikely to destabilise or terrorise European societies. But Ukraine can ill afford to lose more of its young people.
You put “duty” in quotes but you also should have put “Syrian refugees” in quotes. That group was NOT refugees but filthy invaders seeking to scam the EU–and many were not even Syrians, not that that matters.
Poland was brave and correct in holding the line, doing Germany’s dirty work. Now Poland is doing the right thing again by welcoming real European refugees fleeing war.
Bravo Poland!
If you want to flee war, go to a neighboring country, the country of first refuge. After that, you are an economic scammer.
Tons of people show up in the US say they are fleeing something. Par example, I’m a Nigerian teenager who would be subject to FGM. I “fled” to Ivory Coast, Niger, Morocco, Spain, France, Canada, and then I turn up @ JFK demanding asylum?
Give me a break!
Personally, I like the Eastern Europeans (except perhaps the Romanians & Albanians – mea culpa).
In general, they integrate well, work hard, and pay their taxes.
Would far rather accept white Christians than what I’m not allowed to say.
Peter Francis
2 years ago
The author seems to have missed the key difference in demographics of the refugees. The refugees claiming to come from Syria were nearly all young men. By contrast, many Ukranians of military age are staying and fighting for their country.
As soon as anything moderately bad happens in a country, everyone there knows this this is their golden opportunity to get to Europe. This has led to a situation where someone like Assad knows that as long as he is sufficiently ruthless, he can permanently get rid of substanial numbers of his citizens who are non-Allawis. Our asylum rules actually encourage the Assads of this world.
Galeti Tavas
2 years ago
“The humanitarian commitment of the wider central Europe region has also been called into question because of the complete rejection of refugees by Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic during the Syrian refugee crisis of 2015. Yet now, none of these nations show a desire to shirk their duty. “
Really? The writer does not get it?
But as Stephen Walshe says – the looming disaster facing all the developed world is decline of working age, and young, population – This is the biggest resource depletion of any, the demographic depletion. China is being hit like Japan was, like Europe is. Few workers, and more old and unemployable for them to support.
My guess is Putin wants the people of Ukraine as much as any resource it has, Russia’s population is in a nose dive. And Ukraine needs them its self.
But to fight this problem just doing what Tony Blair did – go and get millions of unskilled, unlike peoples to replace the children not being born by natives – is not a great answer. If Ukraine lost a million people I suppose the writer thinks they can just get a million Africans, Afghani, and Egyptians to replace them, and that will work fine….
R Wright
2 years ago
Expect western European leaders to reject Ukraine’s refugees. They are too white and problematic. Eritreans only please.
Have you looked at the BBC’s footage from the Ukraine/Poland border? Some of the ‘refugees’ look distinctly ‘non-slavic’.
In fact, they look like the sort of people that Belarus tried to foist upon Poland a month ago. I think Europe is about to be sold goods under false pretences.
D Glover
2 years ago
On BBC R4 ‘Today’ programme at 7.00 this morning I heard a woman from UNHCR being interviewed. She claimed that people were fleeing their homes in Ukraine so fast that they ‘didn’t have time to grab their passports’ This is nonsense; no one packs and leaves their flat that fast.
Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic had absolutely no “duty” to accept Syrian refugees. The conflict in Syria needed to be resolved in Syria, with the assistance of the Arab world, and Russia, which had been responsible for sustaining the vile Assad regime for so long. This situation is totally different, as Ukrainian refugees are unlikely to destabilise or terrorise European societies. But Ukraine can ill afford to lose more of its young people.
You put “duty” in quotes but you also should have put “Syrian refugees” in quotes. That group was NOT refugees but filthy invaders seeking to scam the EU–and many were not even Syrians, not that that matters.
Poland was brave and correct in holding the line, doing Germany’s dirty work. Now Poland is doing the right thing again by welcoming real European refugees fleeing war.
Bravo Poland!
I don’t think the collapse of the Assad regime would have stopped the refugees, but probably increased it. People were fleeing the war.
If you want to flee war, go to a neighboring country, the country of first refuge. After that, you are an economic scammer.
Tons of people show up in the US say they are fleeing something. Par example, I’m a Nigerian teenager who would be subject to FGM. I “fled” to Ivory Coast, Niger, Morocco, Spain, France, Canada, and then I turn up @ JFK demanding asylum?
Give me a break!
That’s not really a response to my comment.
Personally, I like the Eastern Europeans (except perhaps the Romanians & Albanians – mea culpa).
In general, they integrate well, work hard, and pay their taxes.
Would far rather accept white Christians than what I’m not allowed to say.
The author seems to have missed the key difference in demographics of the refugees. The refugees claiming to come from Syria were nearly all young men. By contrast, many Ukranians of military age are staying and fighting for their country.
As soon as anything moderately bad happens in a country, everyone there knows this this is their golden opportunity to get to Europe. This has led to a situation where someone like Assad knows that as long as he is sufficiently ruthless, he can permanently get rid of substanial numbers of his citizens who are non-Allawis. Our asylum rules actually encourage the Assads of this world.
“The humanitarian commitment of the wider central Europe region has also been called into question because of the complete rejection of refugees by Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic during the Syrian refugee crisis of 2015. Yet now, none of these nations show a desire to shirk their duty. “
Really? The writer does not get it?
But as Stephen Walshe says – the looming disaster facing all the developed world is decline of working age, and young, population – This is the biggest resource depletion of any, the demographic depletion. China is being hit like Japan was, like Europe is. Few workers, and more old and unemployable for them to support.
My guess is Putin wants the people of Ukraine as much as any resource it has, Russia’s population is in a nose dive. And Ukraine needs them its self.
But to fight this problem just doing what Tony Blair did – go and get millions of unskilled, unlike peoples to replace the children not being born by natives – is not a great answer. If Ukraine lost a million people I suppose the writer thinks they can just get a million Africans, Afghani, and Egyptians to replace them, and that will work fine….
Expect western European leaders to reject Ukraine’s refugees. They are too white and problematic. Eritreans only please.
Have you looked at the BBC’s footage from the Ukraine/Poland border? Some of the ‘refugees’ look distinctly ‘non-slavic’.
In fact, they look like the sort of people that Belarus tried to foist upon Poland a month ago. I think Europe is about to be sold goods under false pretences.
On BBC R4 ‘Today’ programme at 7.00 this morning I heard a woman from UNHCR being interviewed.
She claimed that people were fleeing their homes in Ukraine so fast that they ‘didn’t have time to grab their passports’
This is nonsense; no one packs and leaves their flat that fast.