Debbie, thank you for your consistent and sensible views on the trans/women debate. I just wish that you didn’t have to keep doing this. It is not fair to you and the many other trans people who just want to get on with their lives. Why are a very small minority of people being pandered to, such that I am now a cis-woman, instead of just a woman.
Jeremy Bray
2 years ago
Debbie Hayton and Caitlyn Jenner speak I suspect the the great majority – whatever their gender. It is idiotic that Sports Authorities pander to the aggressive ideological minority. It is clearly evident that men who present as women have a significant advantage in many sports and should not be allowed to compete against women.
As Debbie and Caitlyn show you don’t need to be transphobic to see that.
PS It looks as if on this occasion the International Cycling Union has said Emily Bridges is not eligible so she will not race. But no reason seems to have been given.
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Kathryn Allegro
2 years ago
Always sensible – thank you, Debbie.
One thing that is not often mentioned is that when ‘transwomen’ get into women’s sports, their teammates – biological women – are thereby forced to share locker rooms with people who have male bodies. This is grossly unfair to women who have been sexually abused by people with male bodies, women who are modest for religious or other reasons, and women in general who do not want naked male bodies in their midst. And what about girls? Do even the wokest of parents think it’s okay for their daughters to be in locker rooms with transwomen (i.e. men)?
Vince B
2 years ago
I hope Emily Bridges crushes every competitor in her wake and takes every title and record possible. Only when reality forces us to face it, will the collective trans ideology fever break.
Exactly. I hope this happens more and more, I enjoy reading these stories. That’s what it’ll take for the cowards (the Left and ‘progressives’, in general) to no longer be able to keep their heads in the sand or just point-blank deny biological reality and the most basic common sense
Indeed it may only be when a significant number of women are shut out of the podium places they deserve and official records are crushed in international sport that the non-woke nations will force the woke- nations to reappraise this absurd policy.
Russia would be what many consider to be a “non-woke” nation. Once they hear that putting men into women’s competitions is a great way to hoover up more medals at the Olympics, they will surely add this ruse to their already extensive playbook of cheating techniques.
I thought the same – the embarrassment of such easy success might create a reaction if shame.
But her entry to the race has been invalidated, which I think is a pity. Her destruction of the Olympic champion Laura Kenny would have been such a great video to play to people who claim trans women are woman.
*But his entry to the race has been invalidated, which I think is a pity. His destruction of the Olympic champion Laura Kenny would have been such a great video to play to people who claim trans women are woman.
I am not ready to go there, Allison. If a fellow human being sincerely feels and wishes to represent her/hisself as particular gender, I’m not going to go out of my way to offend that person.
What I won’t do is bend the knee and pretend that biology, in the final analysis, isn’t real, or be told I’m hateful to acknowlege that “trans” itself refers to the reality of biology.
I hope Zach Bridges crushes every competitor in his wake and takes every title and record possible. Only when reality forces us to face it, will the collective trans ideology fever break.
Bruce Metzger
2 years ago
It is a travesty what these pretend women are doing to real women’s sports, and all because pretend leadership is without leadership. I think it is sick, if not outright evil.
Yes, in France we would call this a travestie too 🙂
Lennon Ó Náraigh
2 years ago
Another cheater.
Margaret Tudeau-Clayton
2 years ago
I’m wondering if what is needed is a collective refusal by women to take part in events in which trans women have been allowed to compete. Just say no!
Just say – what!! ‘No’. Really? Is that even possible? Quelle horeur – then we would be that which shall not be spoken of in today’s fetish-laden culture.
Andrea X
2 years ago
I have just read that he/she won’t be taking part in the race as the UCI (union cycliste internationale) says he/she is ineligible.
While British Cycling itself continues to be controlled by the transgender lobby.
Worth remembering it reports more to Sport England than it does to its members. Sport England and a political establishment that can’t/won’t answer the question of “what is a woman?”.
As someone else has said, you can have fairness or inclusion, but not both. I’ll vote fairness every time. Nothing to stop this person continuing to compete. Just not with women.
Yvonne Aston
2 years ago
It is unfair and even worse, unsporting. It is no longer a competition between almost equals, it has been usurped by male strengths. The only way to really stop this is for women, yes, you know, those born with a vagina and internals capable of creating a living human being, to cease to compete. It would be devastating for the world of sport, but maybe it might teach the organisers a lesson. Why are we as a society always overwhelmed by the stridency and defensiveness of whatever new thing is deemed to be right and true? We wonder why the Russian people are governed by Putin when most of them detest him. We are governed by ideologies that are inimical to our beliefs and common sense, yet we cower beneath their insurgence because they have occupied the palace of unreason. We are all now afraid of it being a case of “Off with their heads” if we raise ours above this parapet of untruth.
Lee Clarke
2 years ago
I’m so glad to read a sensible, rather than emotion-driven item about gender in sport. The undeniable truth is that in most cases whatever gender we want to be, or think we are, our physical make-up is determined by birth gender. That includes our life-expectancy, strength and range of vision just to mention three. As a society we need to adjust to people who feel their gender to be different to their birth gender, or “assigned gender”. Many countries have made good progress on this, however there are parts of the world where it may never happen.
Sex is observed at birth, although activists have rewritten this as “gender assigned at birth.” It may be that in a tiny number of cases where intersex babies are operated upon shortly after birth can we say anything is “assigned.”
Biological sex is observed at birth. Gender, which used to mean the same thing as biological sex has come to mean something quite different thanks to academics, activists and those who pay little attention to the implications of reassigning the meaning of words.
Yes, far too many play fast and loose with language in general and words in particular in today’s fetish-driven culture. If words are to mean anything, gay means happy; woman means adult female; sex is an activity; gender is the pre-ordained gamete-level assignment of male or female etc.
‘As a society we need to adjust to people who feel their gender to be different to their birth gender’
The other way round surely.
You are suggesting that the whole of society plays make believe to accomodate people who suffer form a particular mental illness.
Penny Adrian
2 years ago
Great article! On one point, though, I must disagree with you, Debbie. I see you as a woman – you may be genetically male, but you are a woman to me, and a brave compassionate sister.
Trans women are not genetic women, but they can be amazing women none the less. Sending hugs.
Jordan Flower
2 years ago
I hope Emily kicks the living shit out of the competition. Let’s get this nonsense out of our system nice and quick.
jules Ritchie
2 years ago
It would be wonderful if every female entrant in a race/match/game where a transwoman has gained entry simply withdrew and the let the sporting bodies answer for the problem they have caused. It would be so difficult to ask women to do this after years of competing and training to reach elite level but there needs to be strong statement made. Glad it’s not my decision.
Julian Farrows
2 years ago
This is what happens when men are turned into second-class citizens and women are held up as paragons of virtue and bravery. It’s only natural for some men to want to join their ranks.
Nothing wrong with being a mediocre man or woman – it’s the lot of most of us.
It is the galling, bare-faced lack of any sign of natural embarressment on the part of the erstwhile ‘other gendered’ athlete that gets up my nose. They/he/she/wen/wx/whatevernext appear too entitled for words.
I find it very interesting that the demands for rights in the transgender community come from men transitioning as women. Speaks volumes about patriarchy.
Debbie, thank you for your consistent and sensible views on the trans/women debate. I just wish that you didn’t have to keep doing this. It is not fair to you and the many other trans people who just want to get on with their lives. Why are a very small minority of people being pandered to, such that I am now a cis-woman, instead of just a woman.
Debbie Hayton and Caitlyn Jenner speak I suspect the the great majority – whatever their gender. It is idiotic that Sports Authorities pander to the aggressive ideological minority. It is clearly evident that men who present as women have a significant advantage in many sports and should not be allowed to compete against women.
As Debbie and Caitlyn show you don’t need to be transphobic to see that.
PS It looks as if on this occasion the International Cycling Union has said Emily Bridges is not eligible so she will not race. But no reason seems to have been given.
Always sensible – thank you, Debbie.
One thing that is not often mentioned is that when ‘transwomen’ get into women’s sports, their teammates – biological women – are thereby forced to share locker rooms with people who have male bodies. This is grossly unfair to women who have been sexually abused by people with male bodies, women who are modest for religious or other reasons, and women in general who do not want naked male bodies in their midst. And what about girls? Do even the wokest of parents think it’s okay for their daughters to be in locker rooms with transwomen (i.e. men)?
I hope Emily Bridges crushes every competitor in her wake and takes every title and record possible. Only when reality forces us to face it, will the collective trans ideology fever break.
Exactly. I hope this happens more and more, I enjoy reading these stories. That’s what it’ll take for the cowards (the Left and ‘progressives’, in general) to no longer be able to keep their heads in the sand or just point-blank deny biological reality and the most basic common sense
Some of the Left are not progressives and recognise gender ideology for what it is!
Indeed it may only be when a significant number of women are shut out of the podium places they deserve and official records are crushed in international sport that the non-woke nations will force the woke- nations to reappraise this absurd policy.
Russia would be what many consider to be a “non-woke” nation. Once they hear that putting men into women’s competitions is a great way to hoover up more medals at the Olympics, they will surely add this ruse to their already extensive playbook of cheating techniques.
Pretty much what the East Germans used to do.
I thought the same – the embarrassment of such easy success might create a reaction if shame.
But her entry to the race has been invalidated, which I think is a pity. Her destruction of the Olympic champion Laura Kenny would have been such a great video to play to people who claim trans women are woman.
*But his entry to the race has been invalidated, which I think is a pity. His destruction of the Olympic champion Laura Kenny would have been such a great video to play to people who claim trans women are woman.
Ha! ..a riposte worthy of a Grammar icon; thank you for correction most of us can only dream of.
The guy’s name is Zach. He is not a she, and this “trans ideology” will never break as long as we continue to use this language and defend the lie.
I am not ready to go there, Allison. If a fellow human being sincerely feels and wishes to represent her/hisself as particular gender, I’m not going to go out of my way to offend that person.
What I won’t do is bend the knee and pretend that biology, in the final analysis, isn’t real, or be told I’m hateful to acknowlege that “trans” itself refers to the reality of biology.
I hope Zach Bridges crushes every competitor in his wake and takes every title and record possible. Only when reality forces us to face it, will the collective trans ideology fever break.
It is a travesty what these pretend women are doing to real women’s sports, and all because pretend leadership is without leadership. I think it is sick, if not outright evil.
Yes, in France we would call this a travestie too 🙂
Another cheater.
I’m wondering if what is needed is a collective refusal by women to take part in events in which trans women have been allowed to compete. Just say no!
Just say – what!! ‘No’. Really? Is that even possible? Quelle horeur – then we would be that which shall not be spoken of in today’s fetish-laden culture.
I have just read that he/she won’t be taking part in the race as the UCI (union cycliste internationale) says he/she is ineligible.
While British Cycling itself continues to be controlled by the transgender lobby.
Worth remembering it reports more to Sport England than it does to its members. Sport England and a political establishment that can’t/won’t answer the question of “what is a woman?”.
He.
As someone else has said, you can have fairness or inclusion, but not both. I’ll vote fairness every time. Nothing to stop this person continuing to compete. Just not with women.
It is unfair and even worse, unsporting. It is no longer a competition between almost equals, it has been usurped by male strengths. The only way to really stop this is for women, yes, you know, those born with a vagina and internals capable of creating a living human being, to cease to compete. It would be devastating for the world of sport, but maybe it might teach the organisers a lesson. Why are we as a society always overwhelmed by the stridency and defensiveness of whatever new thing is deemed to be right and true? We wonder why the Russian people are governed by Putin when most of them detest him. We are governed by ideologies that are inimical to our beliefs and common sense, yet we cower beneath their insurgence because they have occupied the palace of unreason. We are all now afraid of it being a case of “Off with their heads” if we raise ours above this parapet of untruth.
I’m so glad to read a sensible, rather than emotion-driven item about gender in sport. The undeniable truth is that in most cases whatever gender we want to be, or think we are, our physical make-up is determined by birth gender. That includes our life-expectancy, strength and range of vision just to mention three. As a society we need to adjust to people who feel their gender to be different to their birth gender, or “assigned gender”. Many countries have made good progress on this, however there are parts of the world where it may never happen.
What is birth gender?
Sex is observed at birth, although activists have rewritten this as “gender assigned at birth.” It may be that in a tiny number of cases where intersex babies are operated upon shortly after birth can we say anything is “assigned.”
Biological sex is observed at birth. Gender, which used to mean the same thing as biological sex has come to mean something quite different thanks to academics, activists and those who pay little attention to the implications of reassigning the meaning of words.
In most cases, biological sex is observed before birth (ultrasounds, PGD, etc). It can also be observed after death (skeletal examination).
Yes, far too many play fast and loose with language in general and words in particular in today’s fetish-driven culture. If words are to mean anything, gay means happy; woman means adult female; sex is an activity; gender is the pre-ordained gamete-level assignment of male or female etc.
‘As a society we need to adjust to people who feel their gender to be different to their birth gender’
The other way round surely.
You are suggesting that the whole of society plays make believe to accomodate people who suffer form a particular mental illness.
Great article! On one point, though, I must disagree with you, Debbie. I see you as a woman – you may be genetically male, but you are a woman to me, and a brave compassionate sister.
Trans women are not genetic women, but they can be amazing women none the less. Sending hugs.
I hope Emily kicks the living shit out of the competition. Let’s get this nonsense out of our system nice and quick.
It would be wonderful if every female entrant in a race/match/game where a transwoman has gained entry simply withdrew and the let the sporting bodies answer for the problem they have caused. It would be so difficult to ask women to do this after years of competing and training to reach elite level but there needs to be strong statement made. Glad it’s not my decision.
This is what happens when men are turned into second-class citizens and women are held up as paragons of virtue and bravery. It’s only natural for some men to want to join their ranks.
Why go through life as a mediocre man when you can shine as a woman? Is this not the thinking behind transgender ideology?
Nothing wrong with being a mediocre man or woman – it’s the lot of most of us.
It is the galling, bare-faced lack of any sign of natural embarressment on the part of the erstwhile ‘other gendered’ athlete that gets up my nose. They/he/she/wen/wx/whatevernext appear too entitled for words.
I find it very interesting that the demands for rights in the transgender community come from men transitioning as women. Speaks volumes about patriarchy.