Well, you ought to.
You may not be very sympathetic to Conservative personalities or policies, but the fact remains that the party is a significant part of the British political landscape. Its internal debates have ramifications far beyond the Conservative Party as an organisation. It explains Brexit, for example.
If you want to know why things happen in Britain they way they do, and you want to know what is likely to happen next, then it pays dividends to observe what is going on inside the major political parties.
There are no internal debates. There are no debates. There is no political landscape. There is just an establishment blob. Some members call themselves Tory, some call themselves Liberals, some call themselves Blairites. It matters not, as they are interchangeable. When you find one of these “debates”, let me know.
No it isn’t happening. They are two inconsequential people engaged in mock debates. Neither of them offer any serious plan to deal with the problems that they helped create. They don’t even realise that there are any real problems, just a few inconveniences that can be dealt with when they have finally saved the planet from tiresome people like us: The Titanic sails on as the band plays Nearer My God To Thee.
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Andy White
1 year ago
Yes the position of the PM depends on retaining the support of their parliamentary party. Without your MPs you’re stuffed, unless you leave them behind and cross the aisle, otherwise known as “doing a Ramsay MacDonald”..
The more interesting question is were the Tory MPs right to give up on Boris? Right for themselves maybe, frustration levels were clearly off the scale, but were they right for their party‘s fortunes and keeping the possibility of winning the next GE alive? Probably not.
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Vivek Rajkhowa
1 year ago
The fact our constitution relies on the commons is a sham. Bring back the days of crown and parliament where the crown actuallt ruled.
Aaron James
1 year ago
90% scum. Swamp creatures – their destroying the nation by covid responce, then putting in the final nail with the Insane War, one worse then Tony Blair’s by Far; they are criminals. How great it would be if Boris could be Impeached – as Biden will be, deservedly so, as him and Boris are two corrupt peas in a pod.
Blair was just feeding the Neo-Con military Industrial Complex because the money under the table was too good for the ‘Uniparty’ Politicos to refues. But they was a pointless war in a far off land and did not matter – this one is the complete oppisite. It is in the back yard. It is shooting at someone who holds your well being in their hands.
The war in Ukraine was not only pointless to interfere in, but suicidal. Boris has been 10X worse for Britain than Blair could manage. Same open immigration of the special kinds, sane Neo-Con War, but Boris likely Killed the UK economy, destroyed the Pensions, the £, destroyed the middle class, and dropped the working class down to the serf class.
Maybe one of the Plantagenets or Stuarts were as destructive to England as Boris – but I doubt it.
I’m sure that you are right in what you say. Unfortunately I don’t give a pair of dingo’s kidneys about the Tory Party.
Well, you ought to.
You may not be very sympathetic to Conservative personalities or policies, but the fact remains that the party is a significant part of the British political landscape. Its internal debates have ramifications far beyond the Conservative Party as an organisation. It explains Brexit, for example.
If you want to know why things happen in Britain they way they do, and you want to know what is likely to happen next, then it pays dividends to observe what is going on inside the major political parties.
There are no internal debates. There are no debates. There is no political landscape. There is just an establishment blob. Some members call themselves Tory, some call themselves Liberals, some call themselves Blairites. It matters not, as they are interchangeable. When you find one of these “debates”, let me know.
Yes, that’s right. And all those hustings and the evident disagreement between the two candidates for prime minister, that’s not happening either.
No it isn’t happening. They are two inconsequential people engaged in mock debates. Neither of them offer any serious plan to deal with the problems that they helped create. They don’t even realise that there are any real problems, just a few inconveniences that can be dealt with when they have finally saved the planet from tiresome people like us: The Titanic sails on as the band plays Nearer My God To Thee.
Yes the position of the PM depends on retaining the support of their parliamentary party. Without your MPs you’re stuffed, unless you leave them behind and cross the aisle, otherwise known as “doing a Ramsay MacDonald”..
The more interesting question is were the Tory MPs right to give up on Boris? Right for themselves maybe, frustration levels were clearly off the scale, but were they right for their party‘s fortunes and keeping the possibility of winning the next GE alive? Probably not.
The fact our constitution relies on the commons is a sham. Bring back the days of crown and parliament where the crown actuallt ruled.
90% scum. Swamp creatures – their destroying the nation by covid responce, then putting in the final nail with the Insane War, one worse then Tony Blair’s by Far; they are criminals. How great it would be if Boris could be Impeached – as Biden will be, deservedly so, as him and Boris are two corrupt peas in a pod.
Blair was just feeding the Neo-Con military Industrial Complex because the money under the table was too good for the ‘Uniparty’ Politicos to refues. But they was a pointless war in a far off land and did not matter – this one is the complete oppisite. It is in the back yard. It is shooting at someone who holds your well being in their hands.
The war in Ukraine was not only pointless to interfere in, but suicidal. Boris has been 10X worse for Britain than Blair could manage. Same open immigration of the special kinds, sane Neo-Con War, but Boris likely Killed the UK economy, destroyed the Pensions, the £, destroyed the middle class, and dropped the working class down to the serf class.
Maybe one of the Plantagenets or Stuarts were as destructive to England as Boris – but I doubt it.