I tend to favour Peter Zeihan‘s interpretation of the situation in the East China Sea. That China couldn’t pull off an amphibious invasion but it could attempt an air and sea containment of the island to effectively bring Taiwan under its control, however, if the United States wants to, and is willing to bear the economic costs, it could easily cut China’s oil supply at the choke points in the Andaman Sea. The US has this capacity to do this and China doesn’t have the naval assets to oppose it. The question is not. Does the US have the military power to oppose China? It’s, does it have the political will to do so?
Isn’t that what we did with Japan circa 1940? Starve their oil supply so they felt forced to go out and take it by taking other countries? I realize this is simplistic history (to say the least).
Jim R
1 year ago
The old ‘masculine’ approaches to international conflict are so outdated. Military capabilities are just for show. Tactical analysis is irrelevant. In our new era of progressive thought, victory will be achieved through narrative building and righteous condemnation – run around the school yard saying mean things so everyone will hate your adversary and they run home crying. Toxic masculinity, meet your match: toxic femininity. Can’t imagine how this could possibly go wrong.
Sam Sky
1 year ago
As WW2 showed though, the US will be drawn into the pacific eventually, it is just a matter of sooner or later.
David Lindsay
1 year ago
Xi Jinping has many things wrong with him, but he has the advantage over Nancy Pelosi that he is sober, and he has the advantage over Joe Biden that he is not in an advanced state of cognitive collapse. If China had wanted to conquer Taiwan by force, then it would have done so without difficulty in 1949. It wants a peaceful solution, and it is prepared to wait for one. Just so long as no one waded in from outside. And in any practical way, who would?
Everyone has a One China Policy. It is a question only of which China. The position of Xi that Taiwan “must and will” be reintegrated into China is precisely that of the other side. That does not style itself “Taiwan”, which is merely the name of the island on which it is located, as if the losing side in a British Civil War had been holed up on the Isle of Wight for the last 70 years. Rather, its official name for itself remains “the Republic of China”.
After all, 70 years in the history of China is scarcely the blink of an eye. But however strong its legal or moral case may once have been, in practical terms it now gives those who continue to advance it a reasonable claim to be the biggest fantasists on the face of the Earth. And as of 2020, on the face of the Moon as well. Nor does that fantasy extend merely to China as it now exists. Rejecting the authority of the present Chinese Government to resolve territorial disputes, Taiwan lays claim to most of Mongolia, as well as to parts of Russia, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Bhutan and Myanmar.
Although he himself does not press the claim, there are still those who maintain that the Duke of Bavaria is the rightful King of England, Scotland, Ireland and France. They have been saying that about a series of often quite colourful characters ever since the eighteenth century. In my time on Telegraph Blogs, one of my colleagues was an absolutely serious Jacobite who used that platform to express that view. Several more will have been partisans of the Kuomintang via the Washington “Blue Team”, which is itself a key aspect of neoconservatism. They were exactly as realistic as he was.
In their time, not unlike the considerable achievements of Taiwan since the early 1960s, when by the way it was most certainly not a democracy, the Jacobites have controlled much of French and Spanish banking, they have maintained a network of merchants in every port circling Europe, they have founded the Russian Navy of Peter the Great, they have dominated the Swedish East India and Madagascar Companies, and they have done a very great deal more besides, including in North America and the West Indies, which were the New World of their day just as space exploration is opening up New Worlds to us in our own time. But they have never succeeded in putting any of their claimants on the Throne of England, Scotland, Ireland or France. Nor have they ever landed a craft on the far side of the Moon.
“If China had wanted to conquer Taiwan by force, then it would have done so without difficulty in 1949.” But this assumes that China now is the same China as of the 1940s. The personnel at the top are different; the system of government is different, and, of course, people change their minds.
To adapt a saying that appeared in Paul Kingsnorth’s essay on Wednesday, “The best time to conquer Taiwan was 73 years ago, the second best time is today.”
M. M.
1 year ago
Aris Roussinos wrote, “Does the United States actually want to defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion?”
Whether a nation conducts a war depends entirely on the residents of that nation, not a couple of politicians in the government. Roussinos and most Chinese on Taiwan have an authoritarian view of society: specifically, the government orders citizens to participate in a war. So, Roussinos and most Taiwanese think that Washington determines whether American lives will be sacrificed for the Taiwanese, and the Taiwanese cultivate ties with American politicians, ignoring the general public.
In the run-up to any war, the media will publicize startling facts about the Taiwanese relationship with China, and the general public will conclude that the Taiwanese have been playing the Americans for fools. The Taiwanese voluntarily made their nation economically dependent on China. Though they have the option of putting their money and technology into Southeast Asia, they overwhelmingly choose to invest their capital in China. Moreover, Beijing gives preferential treatment to Taiwanese businesses. It includes reduced taxes and accelerated approval for business projects. The Taiwanese enjoy this preferential treatment, which is denied to American businesses.
The American public will conclude that neither American treasure nor American lives should be sacrificed for the Taiwanese.
Washington and Tokyo should use Taiwan as a bargaining chip. Specifically, if Beijing agrees to relinquish its claim to the Senkaku Islands, then Western governments shall sever all ties to Taiwan. Beijing can then do whatever it wants to do to the Taiwanese.
I tend to favour Peter Zeihan‘s interpretation of the situation in the East China Sea. That China couldn’t pull off an amphibious invasion but it could attempt an air and sea containment of the island to effectively bring Taiwan under its control, however, if the United States wants to, and is willing to bear the economic costs, it could easily cut China’s oil supply at the choke points in the Andaman Sea. The US has this capacity to do this and China doesn’t have the naval assets to oppose it. The question is not. Does the US have the military power to oppose China? It’s, does it have the political will to do so?
Isn’t that what we did with Japan circa 1940? Starve their oil supply so they felt forced to go out and take it by taking other countries? I realize this is simplistic history (to say the least).
The old ‘masculine’ approaches to international conflict are so outdated. Military capabilities are just for show. Tactical analysis is irrelevant. In our new era of progressive thought, victory will be achieved through narrative building and righteous condemnation – run around the school yard saying mean things so everyone will hate your adversary and they run home crying. Toxic masculinity, meet your match: toxic femininity. Can’t imagine how this could possibly go wrong.
As WW2 showed though, the US will be drawn into the pacific eventually, it is just a matter of sooner or later.
Xi Jinping has many things wrong with him, but he has the advantage over Nancy Pelosi that he is sober, and he has the advantage over Joe Biden that he is not in an advanced state of cognitive collapse. If China had wanted to conquer Taiwan by force, then it would have done so without difficulty in 1949. It wants a peaceful solution, and it is prepared to wait for one. Just so long as no one waded in from outside. And in any practical way, who would?
Everyone has a One China Policy. It is a question only of which China. The position of Xi that Taiwan “must and will” be reintegrated into China is precisely that of the other side. That does not style itself “Taiwan”, which is merely the name of the island on which it is located, as if the losing side in a British Civil War had been holed up on the Isle of Wight for the last 70 years. Rather, its official name for itself remains “the Republic of China”.
After all, 70 years in the history of China is scarcely the blink of an eye. But however strong its legal or moral case may once have been, in practical terms it now gives those who continue to advance it a reasonable claim to be the biggest fantasists on the face of the Earth. And as of 2020, on the face of the Moon as well. Nor does that fantasy extend merely to China as it now exists. Rejecting the authority of the present Chinese Government to resolve territorial disputes, Taiwan lays claim to most of Mongolia, as well as to parts of Russia, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Bhutan and Myanmar.
Although he himself does not press the claim, there are still those who maintain that the Duke of Bavaria is the rightful King of England, Scotland, Ireland and France. They have been saying that about a series of often quite colourful characters ever since the eighteenth century. In my time on Telegraph Blogs, one of my colleagues was an absolutely serious Jacobite who used that platform to express that view. Several more will have been partisans of the Kuomintang via the Washington “Blue Team”, which is itself a key aspect of neoconservatism. They were exactly as realistic as he was.
In their time, not unlike the considerable achievements of Taiwan since the early 1960s, when by the way it was most certainly not a democracy, the Jacobites have controlled much of French and Spanish banking, they have maintained a network of merchants in every port circling Europe, they have founded the Russian Navy of Peter the Great, they have dominated the Swedish East India and Madagascar Companies, and they have done a very great deal more besides, including in North America and the West Indies, which were the New World of their day just as space exploration is opening up New Worlds to us in our own time. But they have never succeeded in putting any of their claimants on the Throne of England, Scotland, Ireland or France. Nor have they ever landed a craft on the far side of the Moon.
“If China had wanted to conquer Taiwan by force, then it would have done so without difficulty in 1949.” But this assumes that China now is the same China as of the 1940s. The personnel at the top are different; the system of government is different, and, of course, people change their minds.
To adapt a saying that appeared in Paul Kingsnorth’s essay on Wednesday, “The best time to conquer Taiwan was 73 years ago, the second best time is today.”
Aris Roussinos wrote, “Does the United States actually want to defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion?”
Whether a nation conducts a war depends entirely on the residents of that nation, not a couple of politicians in the government. Roussinos and most Chinese on Taiwan have an authoritarian view of society: specifically, the government orders citizens to participate in a war. So, Roussinos and most Taiwanese think that Washington determines whether American lives will be sacrificed for the Taiwanese, and the Taiwanese cultivate ties with American politicians, ignoring the general public.
In the run-up to any war, the media will publicize startling facts about the Taiwanese relationship with China, and the general public will conclude that the Taiwanese have been playing the Americans for fools. The Taiwanese voluntarily made their nation economically dependent on China. Though they have the option of putting their money and technology into Southeast Asia, they overwhelmingly choose to invest their capital in China. Moreover, Beijing gives preferential treatment to Taiwanese businesses. It includes reduced taxes and accelerated approval for business projects. The Taiwanese enjoy this preferential treatment, which is denied to American businesses.
The American public will conclude that neither American treasure nor American lives should be sacrificed for the Taiwanese.
Washington and Tokyo should use Taiwan as a bargaining chip. Specifically, if Beijing agrees to relinquish its claim to the Senkaku Islands, then Western governments shall sever all ties to Taiwan. Beijing can then do whatever it wants to do to the Taiwanese.
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