That happened a long time ago. No sensible person pays any attention to PETA. The media does because they are good for a laugh.
Chris Wheatley
3 years ago
I was walking along a footpath a couple of weeks ago and a big dog jumped up at me. The owner said to the dog, “You silly girl, what have I told you about jumping up at people?” Should she have said ‘girl’? Surely, ‘b****’ was more appropriate?
Why did she call you people? Is your preferred pronoun they? ðŸ˜
Su Mac
3 years ago
Thank goodness for some reasoning power! Attributing human moral qualites to animals, like being a family lover to snakes is indeed ” a slippery slope”and displays the educational level of a child frankly. I suppose the meaning of the word “superior” is key here but yes – we are superior to animals, that is why we should not abuse them. We know better and we don’t need to. Speaking as a 30 year pescatarian.
Brian Dorsley
3 years ago
While this may seem like a silly argument by PETA we do have to keep an eye out for possible (intended?) consequences. Just last year New Zealand granted ‘personhood’ to its Whanganui River, a landmark of tribal import. With the way things are going at the moment, is it not inconceivable that personhood eventually be extended to animals? This, of course, would tie in wonderfully with the aims of animal rights and vegan activists who no doubt would love to include the consumption of meat as one more item to add on the West’s rapidly growing list of ‘hate crimes’.
Reading through all of the responses to this, I am reminded of an event that I worked at the US Capital (yes, that one) on the west lawn, with 10s of thousands in attendance. It was a PETA rally in the late 90’s. Many famous actors and musicians were there, and some philosophically minded persons, who-I am not making this up-had a serious discussion from the podium regarding how a person is a “species-ist” if when noticing a drowning rat and drowning baby, they automatically dive in to save the baby. They also had shirts that read “fishing is murder”. This all pre-dates the woke, twitter, etc. These people have always been nuts.
I almost didn’t believe what you said about the drowning rat and the baby, but then I realised, you can’t make this stuff up.
Stephen Tye
3 years ago
“Calling someone an animal as an insult reinforces the myth that humans are superior to other animal” – that’s not a myth.
Kiran Grimm
3 years ago
This is how crackpot movements go mainstream. It just takes one or two journalists to start a discussion along the lines of “amusing and wacky but do they have a point?”.
The social media hordes who love to parade their humane and caring natures (preferably at no cost to themselves) will latch onto the latest opportunity for conspicuous goodness. Demands for changes in the law of the land will surely follow. A type of language casually used by the unthinking masses will be banned for its corrosive ability to ingrain prejudice.
The concern of PETA about calling humans by animal names is surely a joke? Must we also stop calling dogs by human names? Down Bruce, Charlie, boy, Skipper, etc. etc? Why does society tolerate these nutters, just for laughs, perhaps?
Other woke campaigns may have looked like a joke at first ““ until the fanatical righteousness of the campaigners turned the cause into a litmus test of a person’s moral worth. Laughter then becomes an offense.
PETA are deadly serious about this – and seriously stupid.
Chris Milburn
3 years ago
God I love how formerly borderline but reasonable organizations like PETA have gone off the woke deep end. They are now hilarious parodies of themselves. Monty Python could never have been so funny! Amnesty International has gone off the woke deep end as well. Instead of protecting Saudi journalists (a noble cause) they are after the “inhumane” treatment of prisoners in places like Canada, where they have internet, TV, enough food to make them obese, and enough conjugal visits to produce a large new generation of prisoners. At least their craziness has narrowed down the choices of where to direct my charitable contributions.
Paul Melzer
3 years ago
Certainly no surprise here: animals use “humans” as an insult.
You obviously got that straight from the horses mouth (Mr Ed, perhaps?)
Fraser Bailey
3 years ago
This makes me sound like one of the Woke brigade but they have a point. I have often wondered why we compare people to animals as an insult when the animals have done nothing to deserve it.
maybe we expect more out of people given humans’ ability to act beyond instinct. I suppose we could use “sub-human” for such individuals, but this mostly exposes the bankruptcy of various activist campaigns. If THIS is your hill to die on……..
While calling humans animal names can be insulting to animals there is some basis to it.When a man is as indescriminant as a dog about where he puts his d**k,,he’s a bit of a dog.
Tough luck, PETA, I don’t like it when people swear, either, but that’s their choice. Enough with people trying to compel (or repress) other people’s speech. As for the animal epithets, I give you William Shakespeare:
A pox o’ your throat, you bawling, blasphemous, incharitable dog!
John Jones
3 years ago
I see.
So calling a man a “pig” is an insult to….the animal, not a sexist term directed at men?
This is the logic of the terminally woke.
Richard Pinch
3 years ago
I think it would be a mistake to assume that when PETA say something like this they are less than fully aware of the amount of publicity it generates for them and their cause.
Su Mac
3 years ago
I also like the quote at the “the map is not the territory” and “the word is not the thing”. Shame he had to chuck in the dismissive Stop The Steal reference at the end for no good reason…🙄
Chris Wheatley
3 years ago
When I was walking along and this big dog jumped up at me the owner said to the dog, “You silly girl, you know I’ve told you not to do that.” Surely she should have said ‘b***h’.
Keith Payne
3 years ago
It might be pertinent to point out that humans are animals: Homo sapiens. Whether we are superior to all other animals perhaps depends upon ones definition of superiority.
Helen Nevitt
3 years ago
This is a weird one I know. I eat meat. I buy from a local farm where animals are treated well, I pay a lot and I don’t have much. I don’t object to eating animals, it’s what animals do, but I do object to torturing animals of keeping them in cages. I loathe using the animals we eat as insults, cow, pig, chicken, sheep. It seems to demean them. Lots will say ‘if you’re eating them why does it matter?’ but I think animals eating animals is part of nature. Animals degrading animals isn’t.
That said I’m quite happy to call people snakes or lionhearted (that’s a compliment).
Iliya Kuryakin
3 years ago
Not long before they’ll be banning James Cagney movies then.
Steve Gwynne
3 years ago
Presumably, the notion that humans are supreme in relation to animals is used in the context of power and in particular the power to kill or imprison.
However, in terms of other abilities, humans are not always supreme and quite often are inferior especially when unassisted by technology.
On the animal name calling front, who actually uses those insults anymore.
Walking the Talk is more supreme than Talking the Walk whatever species you are. But it is funny how humans do seem to do a lot of the inferior option.
Andrew Baldwin
3 years ago
What does PETA recommend as alternatives for “mink” and “vixen”?
Pierre Pendre
3 years ago
I’m sure PETA are pathetically grateful to Peter for being the only person on the planet to take them seriously.
Dennis Boylon
3 years ago
Peta has been around for decades. Nobody pays attention to what nonsense they say. Just desperate to get on the woke train… although that movement has lost its “luster”.
they have descended into self-parody.
That happened a long time ago. No sensible person pays any attention to PETA. The media does because they are good for a laugh.
I was walking along a footpath a couple of weeks ago and a big dog jumped up at me. The owner said to the dog, “You silly girl, what have I told you about jumping up at people?” Should she have said ‘girl’? Surely, ‘b****’ was more appropriate?
Why did she call you people? Is your preferred pronoun they? ðŸ˜
Thank goodness for some reasoning power! Attributing human moral qualites to animals, like being a family lover to snakes is indeed ” a slippery slope”and displays the educational level of a child frankly. I suppose the meaning of the word “superior” is key here but yes – we are superior to animals, that is why we should not abuse them. We know better and we don’t need to. Speaking as a 30 year pescatarian.
While this may seem like a silly argument by PETA we do have to keep an eye out for possible (intended?) consequences. Just last year New Zealand granted ‘personhood’ to its Whanganui River, a landmark of tribal import. With the way things are going at the moment, is it not inconceivable that personhood eventually be extended to animals? This, of course, would tie in wonderfully with the aims of animal rights and vegan activists who no doubt would love to include the consumption of meat as one more item to add on the West’s rapidly growing list of ‘hate crimes’.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Reading through all of the responses to this, I am reminded of an event that I worked at the US Capital (yes, that one) on the west lawn, with 10s of thousands in attendance. It was a PETA rally in the late 90’s. Many famous actors and musicians were there, and some philosophically minded persons, who-I am not making this up-had a serious discussion from the podium regarding how a person is a “species-ist” if when noticing a drowning rat and drowning baby, they automatically dive in to save the baby. They also had shirts that read “fishing is murder”. This all pre-dates the woke, twitter, etc. These people have always been nuts.
I almost didn’t believe what you said about the drowning rat and the baby, but then I realised, you can’t make this stuff up.
“Calling someone an animal as an insult reinforces the myth that humans are superior to other animal” – that’s not a myth.
This is how crackpot movements go mainstream. It just takes one or two journalists to start a discussion along the lines of “amusing and wacky but do they have a point?”.
The social media hordes who love to parade their humane and caring natures (preferably at no cost to themselves) will latch onto the latest opportunity for conspicuous goodness. Demands for changes in the law of the land will surely follow. A type of language casually used by the unthinking masses will be banned for its corrosive ability to ingrain prejudice.
The concern of PETA about calling humans by animal names is surely a joke? Must we also stop calling dogs by human names? Down Bruce, Charlie, boy, Skipper, etc. etc? Why does society tolerate these nutters, just for laughs, perhaps?
Other woke campaigns may have looked like a joke at first ““ until the fanatical righteousness of the campaigners turned the cause into a litmus test of a person’s moral worth. Laughter then becomes an offense.
PETA are deadly serious about this – and seriously stupid.
God I love how formerly borderline but reasonable organizations like PETA have gone off the woke deep end. They are now hilarious parodies of themselves. Monty Python could never have been so funny! Amnesty International has gone off the woke deep end as well. Instead of protecting Saudi journalists (a noble cause) they are after the “inhumane” treatment of prisoners in places like Canada, where they have internet, TV, enough food to make them obese, and enough conjugal visits to produce a large new generation of prisoners. At least their craziness has narrowed down the choices of where to direct my charitable contributions.
Certainly no surprise here: animals use “humans” as an insult.
You obviously got that straight from the horses mouth
(Mr Ed, perhaps?)
This makes me sound like one of the Woke brigade but they have a point. I have often wondered why we compare people to animals as an insult when the animals have done nothing to deserve it.
maybe we expect more out of people given humans’ ability to act beyond instinct. I suppose we could use “sub-human” for such individuals, but this mostly exposes the bankruptcy of various activist campaigns. If THIS is your hill to die on……..
While calling humans animal names can be insulting to animals there is some basis to it.When a man is as indescriminant as a dog about where he puts his d**k,,he’s a bit of a dog.
I am sure they are deeply offended
Tough luck, PETA, I don’t like it when people swear, either, but that’s their choice. Enough with people trying to compel (or repress) other people’s speech. As for the animal epithets, I give you William Shakespeare:
A pox o’ your throat, you bawling, blasphemous, incharitable dog!
I see.
So calling a man a “pig” is an insult to….the animal, not a sexist term directed at men?
This is the logic of the terminally woke.
I think it would be a mistake to assume that when PETA say something like this they are less than fully aware of the amount of publicity it generates for them and their cause.
I also like the quote at the “the map is not the territory” and “the word is not the thing”. Shame he had to chuck in the dismissive Stop The Steal reference at the end for no good reason…🙄
When I was walking along and this big dog jumped up at me the owner said to the dog, “You silly girl, you know I’ve told you not to do that.” Surely she should have said ‘b***h’.
It might be pertinent to point out that humans are animals: Homo sapiens. Whether we are superior to all other animals perhaps depends upon ones definition of superiority.
This is a weird one I know. I eat meat. I buy from a local farm where animals are treated well, I pay a lot and I don’t have much. I don’t object to eating animals, it’s what animals do, but I do object to torturing animals of keeping them in cages. I loathe using the animals we eat as insults, cow, pig, chicken, sheep. It seems to demean them. Lots will say ‘if you’re eating them why does it matter?’ but I think animals eating animals is part of nature. Animals degrading animals isn’t.
That said I’m quite happy to call people snakes or lionhearted (that’s a compliment).
Not long before they’ll be banning James Cagney movies then.
Presumably, the notion that humans are supreme in relation to animals is used in the context of power and in particular the power to kill or imprison.
However, in terms of other abilities, humans are not always supreme and quite often are inferior especially when unassisted by technology.
On the animal name calling front, who actually uses those insults anymore.
Walking the Talk is more supreme than Talking the Walk whatever species you are. But it is funny how humans do seem to do a lot of the inferior option.
What does PETA recommend as alternatives for “mink” and “vixen”?
I’m sure PETA are pathetically grateful to Peter for being the only person on the planet to take them seriously.
Peta has been around for decades. Nobody pays attention to what nonsense they say. Just desperate to get on the woke train… although that movement has lost its “luster”.