Curious a coup by Prigozhin was being written about in Western MSM months ago. Contrary to what is being written this surrender by Prigozhin shows that if this was an attempt at regime change better pick more credible rebels for the cause whoever planned it.
Last edited 10 months ago by Sayantani Gupta Jafa
Sayantani Gupta Jafa
10 months ago
Curious a coup by Prigozhin was being written about in Western MSM months ago. Contrary to what is being written this surrender by Prigozhin shows that if this was an attempt at regime change better pick more credible rebels for the cause whoever planned it.
Last edited 10 months ago by Sayantani Gupta Jafa
Paul Hendricks
10 months ago
Machiavelli was a schoolboy when the failed Pazzi coup took place in Florence, and would have heard the commotion as Francesco Salviati stormed through the streets of Florence inciting the Florentines to overthrow the Medici. But the people’s support wasn’t there after all, no matter how discontented they were with Medici rule. Machiavelli probably witnessed the conspirators’ bodies hanging from the palace.
Oddly enough, i’ve just watched the movie Hannibal (follow-up to Silence of the Lambs) and that’s a very topical point – which Lecter repeats with one of his victims!
Oddly enough, i’ve just watched the movie Hannibal (follow-up to Silence of the Lambs) and that’s a very topical point – which Lecter repeats with one of his victims!
Paul Hendricks
10 months ago
Machiavelli was a schoolboy when the failed Pazzi coup took place in Florence, and would have heard the commotion as Francesco Salviati stormed through the streets of Florence inciting the Florentines to overthrow the Medici. But the people’s support wasn’t there after all, no matter how discontented they were with Medici rule. Machiavelli probably witnessed the conspirators’ bodies hanging from the palace.
Dermot O'Sullivan
10 months ago
What does it say about the current Russian regime when we compare the treatment meted out to Navalny to the ‘deal’ struck with Prigozhin?
Dermot O'Sullivan
10 months ago
What does it say about the current Russian regime when we compare the treatment meted out to Navalny to the ‘deal’ struck with Prigozhin?
Steve Murray
10 months ago
Anyone, most of all Prigozhin, who thinks they’re now ‘safe’ from Putin’s backlash would be better employed having an extra pair of eyes fitted in the back of their heads.
One can only imagine the threats placed against the families and friends of not just Prigozhin but every single one of his Wagnerians, whose own shady backgrounds seemed to be the prime qualification for wishing to join his band; a tactic well known to any former member of the KGB. Small wonder the “march on Moscow” was halted in Rostov, which nevertheless made for a colossal humiliation for Putin leaving him even further weakened, whatever retaliation he chooses to take.
Incorporating these threatened and disillusioned militias into the regular Russian army will sow further division and provide a fertile platform for insurrection. The one that “lasted a day” may well prove to last far longer in the end.
I have a theory that Prigozhin is not mentally well. I think that his position is complex. That Wagner played an important role while the regular Russian military was grown, and trained up, and that he was a managed asset.
His instability has been on display for a while, and that I think there might even be some sympathy for him even from Putin. But I don’t think for a second that he was not monitored at every step of the way. He was given enough rope to where he made a very public move that caused him to be permanently removed as a headache. I doubt that he will ever be publicly seen much again.
I have a theory that Prigozhin is not mentally well. I think that his position is complex. That Wagner played an important role while the regular Russian military was grown, and trained up, and that he was a managed asset.
His instability has been on display for a while, and that I think there might even be some sympathy for him even from Putin. But I don’t think for a second that he was not monitored at every step of the way. He was given enough rope to where he made a very public move that caused him to be permanently removed as a headache. I doubt that he will ever be publicly seen much again.
Last edited 10 months ago by Steve White
Steve Murray
10 months ago
Anyone, most of all Prigozhin, who thinks they’re now ‘safe’ from Putin’s backlash would be better employed having an extra pair of eyes fitted in the back of their heads.
One can only imagine the threats placed against the families and friends of not just Prigozhin but every single one of his Wagnerians, whose own shady backgrounds seemed to be the prime qualification for wishing to join his band; a tactic well known to any former member of the KGB. Small wonder the “march on Moscow” was halted in Rostov, which nevertheless made for a colossal humiliation for Putin leaving him even further weakened, whatever retaliation he chooses to take.
Incorporating these threatened and disillusioned militias into the regular Russian army will sow further division and provide a fertile platform for insurrection. The one that “lasted a day” may well prove to last far longer in the end.
Ben Jones
10 months ago
Russia’s own Oskar Dirlewanger is going to spend the rest of his life wondering when he’ll be shot, poisoned or pushed out of a window. Good.
Curious a coup by Prigozhin was being written about in Western MSM months ago. Contrary to what is being written this surrender by Prigozhin shows that if this was an attempt at regime change better pick more credible rebels for the cause whoever planned it.
Curious a coup by Prigozhin was being written about in Western MSM months ago. Contrary to what is being written this surrender by Prigozhin shows that if this was an attempt at regime change better pick more credible rebels for the cause whoever planned it.
Machiavelli was a schoolboy when the failed Pazzi coup took place in Florence, and would have heard the commotion as Francesco Salviati stormed through the streets of Florence inciting the Florentines to overthrow the Medici. But the people’s support wasn’t there after all, no matter how discontented they were with Medici rule. Machiavelli probably witnessed the conspirators’ bodies hanging from the palace.
Oddly enough, i’ve just watched the movie Hannibal (follow-up to Silence of the Lambs) and that’s a very topical point – which Lecter repeats with one of his victims!
Oddly enough, i’ve just watched the movie Hannibal (follow-up to Silence of the Lambs) and that’s a very topical point – which Lecter repeats with one of his victims!
Machiavelli was a schoolboy when the failed Pazzi coup took place in Florence, and would have heard the commotion as Francesco Salviati stormed through the streets of Florence inciting the Florentines to overthrow the Medici. But the people’s support wasn’t there after all, no matter how discontented they were with Medici rule. Machiavelli probably witnessed the conspirators’ bodies hanging from the palace.
What does it say about the current Russian regime when we compare the treatment meted out to Navalny to the ‘deal’ struck with Prigozhin?
What does it say about the current Russian regime when we compare the treatment meted out to Navalny to the ‘deal’ struck with Prigozhin?
Anyone, most of all Prigozhin, who thinks they’re now ‘safe’ from Putin’s backlash would be better employed having an extra pair of eyes fitted in the back of their heads.
One can only imagine the threats placed against the families and friends of not just Prigozhin but every single one of his Wagnerians, whose own shady backgrounds seemed to be the prime qualification for wishing to join his band; a tactic well known to any former member of the KGB. Small wonder the “march on Moscow” was halted in Rostov, which nevertheless made for a colossal humiliation for Putin leaving him even further weakened, whatever retaliation he chooses to take.
Incorporating these threatened and disillusioned militias into the regular Russian army will sow further division and provide a fertile platform for insurrection. The one that “lasted a day” may well prove to last far longer in the end.
I have a theory that Prigozhin is not mentally well. I think that his position is complex. That Wagner played an important role while the regular Russian military was grown, and trained up, and that he was a managed asset.
His instability has been on display for a while, and that I think there might even be some sympathy for him even from Putin. But I don’t think for a second that he was not monitored at every step of the way. He was given enough rope to where he made a very public move that caused him to be permanently removed as a headache. I doubt that he will ever be publicly seen much again.
I have a theory that Prigozhin is not mentally well. I think that his position is complex. That Wagner played an important role while the regular Russian military was grown, and trained up, and that he was a managed asset.
His instability has been on display for a while, and that I think there might even be some sympathy for him even from Putin. But I don’t think for a second that he was not monitored at every step of the way. He was given enough rope to where he made a very public move that caused him to be permanently removed as a headache. I doubt that he will ever be publicly seen much again.
Anyone, most of all Prigozhin, who thinks they’re now ‘safe’ from Putin’s backlash would be better employed having an extra pair of eyes fitted in the back of their heads.
One can only imagine the threats placed against the families and friends of not just Prigozhin but every single one of his Wagnerians, whose own shady backgrounds seemed to be the prime qualification for wishing to join his band; a tactic well known to any former member of the KGB. Small wonder the “march on Moscow” was halted in Rostov, which nevertheless made for a colossal humiliation for Putin leaving him even further weakened, whatever retaliation he chooses to take.
Incorporating these threatened and disillusioned militias into the regular Russian army will sow further division and provide a fertile platform for insurrection. The one that “lasted a day” may well prove to last far longer in the end.
Russia’s own Oskar Dirlewanger is going to spend the rest of his life wondering when he’ll be shot, poisoned or pushed out of a window. Good.