I’m getting to thinking that there should be another Joxit referendum but that that, rather than simply obliging the Scots racists with the question they want, it should have two provisoes.
One is that the “vooters” would “voot” for whether their region stayed or went, so that if the overall result were Leave, regions that had voted Stay would stay. The SNP would leave only with those regions that had voted to leave, mirroring their own Brexit-based claim for a referendum.
The second would be that in the event of a Stay vote the whole devolution fiasco would end as having demonstrably failed. Holyrood would be closed, the Barnett formula cancelled and Scotland could be reassured that they’ll not be abandoned to a rabble of inept racist grievance monkeys like the SNP again.
Andrea X
2 years ago
Every time I read “the four nations approach” I want to vomit …
And Boris embraced it too!
Until a couple of decades ago I believed I lived in one nation: and it wasn’t generally called the UK (even though that’s strictly accurate), it was called Britain, and I was British.
Chris Wheatley
2 years ago
It must be better for England if Scotland and Wales were to go it alone. But the two new tiny countries would then have to join Europe, accept the Euro and be ruled from France and Germany. A bad choice to have.
Francis MacGabhann
2 years ago
A unionist viewpoint, starting from the assumption that everything was better when London ran it all. Who’s to say that, if the historic union model were still in force, that the English would not do what the English always did — look after themselves first and foremost, and then send a few wagon loads of vaccine to the Celtic fringe after they’d made good and sure they’d all been vaccinated themselves, assuming there were any left over? There might not be a single vaccinated person in Scotland or Wales today if it weren’t for devolution.
Absolute fantasy. Under the historic union model, which I remember well, the only people who were obsessed with English identity were some chippy Scots and Welsh. The rest of us thought we were all one nation – the British.
I’m getting to thinking that there should be another Joxit referendum but that that, rather than simply obliging the Scots racists with the question they want, it should have two provisoes.
One is that the “vooters” would “voot” for whether their region stayed or went, so that if the overall result were Leave, regions that had voted Stay would stay. The SNP would leave only with those regions that had voted to leave, mirroring their own Brexit-based claim for a referendum.
The second would be that in the event of a Stay vote the whole devolution fiasco would end as having demonstrably failed. Holyrood would be closed, the Barnett formula cancelled and Scotland could be reassured that they’ll not be abandoned to a rabble of inept racist grievance monkeys like the SNP again.
Every time I read “the four nations approach” I want to vomit …
And Boris embraced it too!
Until a couple of decades ago I believed I lived in one nation: and it wasn’t generally called the UK (even though that’s strictly accurate), it was called Britain, and I was British.
It must be better for England if Scotland and Wales were to go it alone. But the two new tiny countries would then have to join Europe, accept the Euro and be ruled from France and Germany. A bad choice to have.
A unionist viewpoint, starting from the assumption that everything was better when London ran it all. Who’s to say that, if the historic union model were still in force, that the English would not do what the English always did — look after themselves first and foremost, and then send a few wagon loads of vaccine to the Celtic fringe after they’d made good and sure they’d all been vaccinated themselves, assuming there were any left over? There might not be a single vaccinated person in Scotland or Wales today if it weren’t for devolution.
Absolute fantasy. Under the historic union model, which I remember well, the only people who were obsessed with English identity were some chippy Scots and Welsh. The rest of us thought we were all one nation – the British.
Or, as the English refer to them, “the English”.