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Brian Villanueva
Brian Villanueva
1 year ago

Continuing to point out this double standard is pointless. progressives control ever institution in America. Of course they let their own off the hook. Of course they use those institutions to hurt Republicans.
We need to stop whining about it and start using the electoral power to change it.

Russell Hamilton
Russell Hamilton
1 year ago

Changing it to more like the Australian model would be a good start. We (who pioneered the secret ballot) have Electoral Commissions which redraw the boundaries of electorates impartially – they are never questioned. We have state and federal elections on Saturdays which makes it easier for people to go out and vote, we use pencils and paper and have party scrutineers checking the process & count to make sure it’s all kosher, and we have compulsory voting, which produces a result much more reflective of the community, and thus a more legitimate result.

Last edited 1 year ago by Russell Hamilton
Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
1 year ago

The Secret Ballot , alone in a booth with pencil at a public voting station, so taken for granted by Australians (it was innovative once, see below , and known abroad as The Australian Ballot) is under threat by growing tendency toward postal and other remote systems which cannot be secret since it’s impossible to know if the voter is alone.
The Australian ballot (from Encyclopaedia Brittanica):

Victoria and South Australia were the first states to introduce secrecy of the ballot (1856), and for that reason the secret ballot is referred to as the Australian ballot. The system spread to Europe and the United States to meet the growing public and parliamentary demand for protection of voters. The means for securing secrecy vary considerably.

Last edited 1 year ago by Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
1 year ago

The Secret Ballot , alone in a booth with pencil at a public voting station, so taken for granted by Australians (it was innovative once, see below , and known abroad as The Australian Ballot) is under threat by growing tendency toward postal and other remote systems which cannot be secret since it’s impossible to know if the voter is alone.
The Australian ballot (from Encyclopaedia Brittanica):

Victoria and South Australia were the first states to introduce secrecy of the ballot (1856), and for that reason the secret ballot is referred to as the Australian ballot. The system spread to Europe and the United States to meet the growing public and parliamentary demand for protection of voters. The means for securing secrecy vary considerably.

Last edited 1 year ago by Brendan O'Leary
Russell Hamilton
Russell Hamilton
1 year ago

Changing it to more like the Australian model would be a good start. We (who pioneered the secret ballot) have Electoral Commissions which redraw the boundaries of electorates impartially – they are never questioned. We have state and federal elections on Saturdays which makes it easier for people to go out and vote, we use pencils and paper and have party scrutineers checking the process & count to make sure it’s all kosher, and we have compulsory voting, which produces a result much more reflective of the community, and thus a more legitimate result.

Last edited 1 year ago by Russell Hamilton
Brian Villanueva
Brian Villanueva
1 year ago

Continuing to point out this double standard is pointless. progressives control ever institution in America. Of course they let their own off the hook. Of course they use those institutions to hurt Republicans.
We need to stop whining about it and start using the electoral power to change it.

Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
1 year ago

Gore v Bush and the hanging chads was another fun time for electoral fraud allegations from the left.

Brendan O'Leary
Brendan O'Leary
1 year ago

Gore v Bush and the hanging chads was another fun time for electoral fraud allegations from the left.

Terry M
Terry M
1 year ago

Both sides smear. Only one side pays the price. Such is democracy in today’s America. Sad.

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago
Reply to  Terry M

Oh do stop blubbing. “Smear” my foot. You can always spot someone who’s lost the argument when he starts resorting to false balance. Fox, knowingly and repeatedly, ran with stories it knew / believed to be utter cobblers. Stories which were hugely damaging to US social cohesion and to US democracy. And no Dem has ever pushed an untruth to the extent that the GOP has – those nutters took circa 60 court cases based on this pile of right wing self-pitying conspiracy balderdash, and lost every one. And the reason they lost? Their story was a lake of pish. Fox News, much loved by people like you, doesn’t even have stumps to stand on these days.  

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago
Reply to  Terry M

Oh do stop blubbing. “Smear” my foot. You can always spot someone who’s lost the argument when he starts resorting to false balance. Fox, knowingly and repeatedly, ran with stories it knew / believed to be utter cobblers. Stories which were hugely damaging to US social cohesion and to US democracy. And no Dem has ever pushed an untruth to the extent that the GOP has – those nutters took circa 60 court cases based on this pile of right wing self-pitying conspiracy balderdash, and lost every one. And the reason they lost? Their story was a lake of pish. Fox News, much loved by people like you, doesn’t even have stumps to stand on these days.  

Terry M
Terry M
1 year ago

Both sides smear. Only one side pays the price. Such is democracy in today’s America. Sad.

Hardee Hodges
Hardee Hodges
1 year ago

The Fox settlement will encourage others, but aside from a judge who clearly was somewhat biased, cases will be harder to win. Most who voted know that irregularities happened but don’t know the details. Whether the machines were rigged remains unknowable but the vulnerabilities have been reported. Dominion’s settlement was amazingly huge given the companies size.

Hardee Hodges
Hardee Hodges
1 year ago

The Fox settlement will encourage others, but aside from a judge who clearly was somewhat biased, cases will be harder to win. Most who voted know that irregularities happened but don’t know the details. Whether the machines were rigged remains unknowable but the vulnerabilities have been reported. Dominion’s settlement was amazingly huge given the companies size.