“As someone who’s tried both, I can attest to the fact that at least in mainstream secular society, outing oneself as even mildly Christian carries considerably greater risk of social penalty than coming out as LGBT. Other faiths generally get more of a pass but being Christian is really, really uncool.”
This is also totally Frankfurt school in action. The way to wreck religious belief is to make it uncool, to ridicule it in a way which is taken up by the very people who once benefited by it. Us in the West are a product of the amazingly intellectual Priests of the Monasteries of the Dark/Middle ages. Tens of thousands of monks hand copying classic books, educated priests to cover the lands and teach the leaders literacy and more. The roads kept open by the need for the Church business, which entailed much moving about. Most of the world’s top philosophers were Christian. Laws were tempered by the Ten Commandments. The scientist Priests and Monks invented the ‘Scientific method’ its self. The universities all began as places to educate the Priests, and later noble youth.
Of all the World’s societies the Christian one gave us almost all we think good. Instead of history being taught to show the great and good things our Christian heritage produced, we teach its every negative and discard its positive. But this goes hand in hand with Liberalism which is the philosophy of ‘Self Loathing’. These current times are all to get the people to admire that which is degenerate and despise that which is decent. Pure Frankfurt 11 point plan.
What wonderful nonsense. In view some of your other erudite posts I am truly astonished you could believe/live in such a wonderland!
Nearly everything of value in today’s Western World was the product of the Classical World, the World of Greece and Rome, and all worked out centuries before Christianity reared its ugly head. For the past two millennia, parvenu Christianity has done its very best to eradicate this truth, but fortunately failed, although I must sadly admit, not in your particular case.
Ditto. Come out at work as a Christian, even in passing, and it’s like you’ve just addmitted to some saucy perversion. Coming as a homo to the parents in the teenage years, a walk in the park.
Stainy
3 years ago
Just a thought. Would a block of wood with the name Mohamed on it be blasphemous? I am sure it would find someone ready to be outraged. However, being completely empty of respect for Christian symbols and pandering to those of another faith seems par for the course.
Tracie Emin’s (unmade) bed, last sold for 2.5 million Pounds. Odd how it really was art, the provenance coupled with the Artist’s history of art were in fact the art of it, which means the actual art is totally uncoupled from the physical thing its self, and her unmade bed is art merely because it is recognized as an artistic creation.
Fair question- if it was just one set of these made , then I can sort of understand.
I’m assuming he’ll sell as many as are ordered, which feels more commercial industry than arts maybe ….
William Murphy
3 years ago
As an appropriate response to the plain block Nativity, acquire a Catalonia style set with an extra irreverent character, the Caganer or Crapper, squatting in a corner of the stable as he empties his bowels. Huge traditional fun – and he can be depicted as a hate figure. Donald Trump or Sir Jimmy Savile would be obvious models.
If you want an insight into how different a Nativity set can be, I recommend the Bavarian State Museum in Munich. They claim to have the largest collection in the world and it is drawn from all over the world.
Their most extravagant examples are the sets created by wealthy families in Naples. The Three Kings naturally made their long journey to the manger with a full entourage of servants, musicians and soldiers. And the faces of the humans and animals are all superbly animated and individual.
Teo
3 years ago
A post-progressive Christian minimalism, definitely! 🙂
Dave H
3 years ago
These blocks appear to be a good wheeze for whoever is charging that much for them.
FYI secular christmasses are not bleak, they’re all about family and togetherness. No need to detract from that with religious flim-flammery…
Judy Johnson
3 years ago
What you describe as a .’bleak, secular Christmas’ can, as David H writes below, be fun. It is analogopus to a game of rugby or soccer without the ball. The fact that detractors think it is flim-flammery is no reason to deny it; they are as entitled to their opinion as those of us with an opposite view.
Steve Weeks
3 years ago
I like the blocks! They’re elegant and clever; and actually I’m painting a watercolour now for a commission at £100 that is about half as clever in concept and craft, so I’m even hard put to complain about the price.
(Can I say; a lot of these comments look like they come from Facebook users.)
The book by NT Wright, Surprised by Hope, was life changing for me. One of the important points for me as a modern Christian (with a distrust of nearly all religious expression) is how religious expression can affect Christian faith, hope, and charity to be realised in tangible physical outcomes, or in some intangible ‘spiritual’ outcome such as going to ‘heaven’.
Christmas is difficult for evangelical Christians who only celebrate Easter all year round. Their popular imbalanced narrative is that God dies and rises again so that individuals can have a religious experience until they die and go to heaven.
If only the three wise men had been evangelicals, Herod would not not have killed the babies. He could just appoint himself head of the church, and let them get on with it.
Actually Christmas is the arrival of the long awaited Messiah, who will Take Back Control, and replace oppression with justice. So Herod was on the money; his throne was under threat.
So do we want a Nativity scene that’s all about concepts, icons that represent something in an invisible spiritual space? Or does that portray a disembodied Messiah, when the real point of Christmas is incarnation. Embodiment. Physicality. Flesh.
Christianity is NOT about escaping to heaven. It’s about heaven invading earth and taking over. This very place, this physical place is our destination. What happens here matters because of that.
I still love the iconic blocks because they make the family universally accessible in line with the Holy Family being a metaphor for the acceptance of the ‘Divine Invader’. He comes as a weak guest, to become the Almighty King.
But there are two sides to Christology. Some of us find it hard to accept that Jesus is really God. And some of us find it hard to accept that Jesus is really a man.
The coloured blocks help me to contemplate that mystery.
This is a sadly spot on paragraph….
This is also totally Frankfurt school in action. The way to wreck religious belief is to make it uncool, to ridicule it in a way which is taken up by the very people who once benefited by it. Us in the West are a product of the amazingly intellectual Priests of the Monasteries of the Dark/Middle ages. Tens of thousands of monks hand copying classic books, educated priests to cover the lands and teach the leaders literacy and more. The roads kept open by the need for the Church business, which entailed much moving about. Most of the world’s top philosophers were Christian. Laws were tempered by the Ten Commandments. The scientist Priests and Monks invented the ‘Scientific method’ its self. The universities all began as places to educate the Priests, and later noble youth.
Of all the World’s societies the Christian one gave us almost all we think good. Instead of history being taught to show the great and good things our Christian heritage produced, we teach its every negative and discard its positive. But this goes hand in hand with Liberalism which is the philosophy of ‘Self Loathing’. These current times are all to get the people to admire that which is degenerate and despise that which is decent. Pure Frankfurt 11 point plan.
What wonderful nonsense. In view some of your other erudite posts I am truly astonished you could believe/live in such a wonderland!
Nearly everything of value in today’s Western World was the product of the Classical World, the World of Greece and Rome, and all worked out centuries before Christianity reared its ugly head. For the past two millennia, parvenu Christianity has done its very best to eradicate this truth, but fortunately failed, although I must sadly admit, not in your particular case.
Ditto. Come out at work as a Christian, even in passing, and it’s like you’ve just addmitted to some saucy perversion. Coming as a homo to the parents in the teenage years, a walk in the park.
Just a thought. Would a block of wood with the name Mohamed on it be blasphemous? I am sure it would find someone ready to be outraged. However, being completely empty of respect for Christian symbols and pandering to those of another faith seems par for the course.
Only one way to find out 😉
Tracie Emin’s (unmade) bed, last sold for 2.5 million Pounds. Odd how it really was art, the provenance coupled with the Artist’s history of art were in fact the art of it, which means the actual art is totally uncoupled from the physical thing its self, and her unmade bed is art merely because it is recognized as an artistic creation.
These ironic blocks fail that test.
Nah – its just recognised as a good investment that can be sold for a profit to a mug.
I see the blocks of wood another way: either consciously or unconsciously a two finger salute to the Christian understanding of Christmas.
Well I suppose that nativity scenes that don’t look like nativity scenes are less likely to be attacked or defaced.
“Fools and their money are easily parted”
That’s a very negative thing to say. Do you have a good method of valuing art that you’re ready to share?
Fair question- if it was just one set of these made , then I can sort of understand.
I’m assuming he’ll sell as many as are ordered, which feels more commercial industry than arts maybe ….
As an appropriate response to the plain block Nativity, acquire a Catalonia style set with an extra irreverent character, the Caganer or Crapper, squatting in a corner of the stable as he empties his bowels. Huge traditional fun – and he can be depicted as a hate figure. Donald Trump or Sir Jimmy Savile would be obvious models.
If you want an insight into how different a Nativity set can be, I recommend the Bavarian State Museum in Munich. They claim to have the largest collection in the world and it is drawn from all over the world.
Their most extravagant examples are the sets created by wealthy families in Naples. The Three Kings naturally made their long journey to the manger with a full entourage of servants, musicians and soldiers. And the faces of the humans and animals are all superbly animated and individual.
A post-progressive Christian minimalism, definitely! 🙂
These blocks appear to be a good wheeze for whoever is charging that much for them.
FYI secular christmasses are not bleak, they’re all about family and togetherness. No need to detract from that with religious flim-flammery…
What you describe as a .’bleak, secular Christmas’ can, as David H writes below, be fun. It is analogopus to a game of rugby or soccer without the ball. The fact that detractors think it is flim-flammery is no reason to deny it; they are as entitled to their opinion as those of us with an opposite view.
I like the blocks! They’re elegant and clever; and actually I’m painting a watercolour now for a commission at £100 that is about half as clever in concept and craft, so I’m even hard put to complain about the price.
(Can I say; a lot of these comments look like they come from Facebook users.)
The book by NT Wright, Surprised by Hope, was life changing for me. One of the important points for me as a modern Christian (with a distrust of nearly all religious expression) is how religious expression can affect Christian faith, hope, and charity to be realised in tangible physical outcomes, or in some intangible ‘spiritual’ outcome such as going to ‘heaven’.
Christmas is difficult for evangelical Christians who only celebrate Easter all year round. Their popular imbalanced narrative is that God dies and rises again so that individuals can have a religious experience until they die and go to heaven.
If only the three wise men had been evangelicals, Herod would not not have killed the babies. He could just appoint himself head of the church, and let them get on with it.
Actually Christmas is the arrival of the long awaited Messiah, who will Take Back Control, and replace oppression with justice. So Herod was on the money; his throne was under threat.
So do we want a Nativity scene that’s all about concepts, icons that represent something in an invisible spiritual space? Or does that portray a disembodied Messiah, when the real point of Christmas is incarnation. Embodiment. Physicality. Flesh.
Christianity is NOT about escaping to heaven. It’s about heaven invading earth and taking over. This very place, this physical place is our destination. What happens here matters because of that.
I still love the iconic blocks because they make the family universally accessible in line with the Holy Family being a metaphor for the acceptance of the ‘Divine Invader’. He comes as a weak guest, to become the Almighty King.
But there are two sides to Christology. Some of us find it hard to accept that Jesus is really God. And some of us find it hard to accept that Jesus is really a man.
The coloured blocks help me to contemplate that mystery.
Your a block of wood