Yes, exactly. I think the terms “secretive elite” and the “liberal elite” are just convenient labels for this (not unjustified) feeling of being controlled by unknown people in places unknown who you suspect don’t live like you, don’t think like you and have no idea what your concerns are.
It’s entirely natural and rational to want to be governed by people you know and by whom you feel understood. But when de facto political power is so far removed from your locality and is also diffusely held (including by people who aren’t politicians) – any attempt to regain control through voting is pure shadowboxing. And what other tools do ordinary citizens have?
I often find myself thinking about the slogan “take back control”…it’s got to be one of the most effective political rallying cries there has ever been, as it goes directly to the heart of this core issue in the governance of a country and who/what matters in it.
Addendum: I’m not sure if the whole film is available in English but the Austrian film “The Farmer and the Hipster” (“Der Bauer und der Bobo”) is really worth watching. Britain is far from being the only country whose population is sliced in two with neither party having a true idea of how the other lives. This film resulted from a clash between the two. You can laugh at the clichéd-looking mountain scenes and think it all nice and twee, but these mountain farmers are incredibly tough guys! Their way of life is a precious part of the culture of the land and if we aren’t careful, it will die out. Credit to Florian Klenk for throwing himself into this – he’s a darned good journalist.
Here’s the trailer with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diGi3nEiprQ
True ‘dat. It’s beginning to feel like a kind of alienation from the means of political control over – who decides what is decent and evil, how to acquire wealth, what is the good life,etc.
Different Weltanschauungs are developing with the barriers between them hardening – a new kind of proletariat ?
If you want to find out more about these ‘secretive elite’ then you could read the best seller ‘The Brotherhood’ by Stephen Knight you will be horrified to find they are in every part of our society and how they control it.
Addendum: I’m not sure if the whole film is available in English but the Austrian film “The Farmer and the Hipster” (“Der Bauer und der Bobo”) is really worth watching. Britain is far from being the only country whose population is sliced in two with neither party having a true idea of how the other lives. This film resulted from a clash between the two. You can laugh at the clichéd-looking mountain scenes and think it all nice and twee, but these mountain farmers are incredibly tough guys! Their way of life is a precious part of the culture of the land and if we aren’t careful, it will die out. Credit to Florian Klenk for throwing himself into this – he’s a darned good journalist.
Here’s the trailer with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diGi3nEiprQ
True ‘dat. It’s beginning to feel like a kind of alienation from the means of political control over – who decides what is decent and evil, how to acquire wealth, what is the good life,etc.
Different Weltanschauungs are developing with the barriers between them hardening – a new kind of proletariat ?
If you want to find out more about these ‘secretive elite’ then you could read the best seller ‘The Brotherhood’ by Stephen Knight you will be horrified to find they are in every part of our society and how they control it.
Katharine Eyre
1 year ago
Yes, exactly. I think the terms “secretive elite” and the “liberal elite” are just convenient labels for this (not unjustified) feeling of being controlled by unknown people in places unknown who you suspect don’t live like you, don’t think like you and have no idea what your concerns are.
It’s entirely natural and rational to want to be governed by people you know and by whom you feel understood. But when de facto political power is so far removed from your locality and is also diffusely held (including by people who aren’t politicians) – any attempt to regain control through voting is pure shadowboxing. And what other tools do ordinary citizens have?
I often find myself thinking about the slogan “take back control”…it’s got to be one of the most effective political rallying cries there has ever been, as it goes directly to the heart of this core issue in the governance of a country and who/what matters in it.
Last edited 1 year ago by Katharine Eyre
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Of course they’re right. Our entire postwar history is the story of a slow but steady accretion of power to the centre, first of the nation state, and then into the hands of a parasitic supranational elite. Because this has been done slowly we have come to accept unquestioningly that George S0ros, Bill Gates and the like who are not even citizens of this country, have more power over our government’s policy than we do. The ultimate symbol of this was the appalling spectacle of a British Minister of State grovelling at the feet of Greta Thunberg.
I would say that some have come to realise that the Soros, Gates, Schwab fraternity have more control over our lives than elected politicians, although growing that number is still far from the majority. However, the more people realise the true state of affairs the greater the pushback will become hence the impatience of this supranational elite to exert even more control via the imposition of vaccine/bio-metric passports, the digitalisation of currency and the introduction of a Chinese style social credit system. Who will win?
I would say that some have come to realise that the Soros, Gates, Schwab fraternity have more control over our lives than elected politicians, although growing that number is still far from the majority. However, the more people realise the true state of affairs the greater the pushback will become hence the impatience of this supranational elite to exert even more control via the imposition of vaccine/bio-metric passports, the digitalisation of currency and the introduction of a Chinese style social credit system. Who will win?
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Of course they’re right. Our entire postwar history is the story of a slow but steady accretion of power to the centre, first of the nation state, and then into the hands of a parasitic supranational elite. Because this has been done slowly we have come to accept unquestioningly that George S0ros, Bill Gates and the like who are not even citizens of this country, have more power over our government’s policy than we do. The ultimate symbol of this was the appalling spectacle of a British Minister of State grovelling at the feet of Greta Thunberg.
Paul T
1 year ago
‘For many people employed by a multinational corporation, their job security is controlled far less by who they elect than by the board of some company sitting thousands of miles away.‘ Good thing! I worked in the private sector for all my career and I’m glad my job security was based on business results, not the whim of some politician who might purge you for the wrong opinions on gender or something.
The poorer regions of the UK have plenty of politics. South Wales has an entire law-making assembly and it seemingly hasn’t led to a greater feeling of control. What would help is more local enterprise, not more local politics.
For too long now people have been encouraged to look to government for everything as if it was some kind of parent and governments have responded with a suffocating and aspiration killing paternalism, expanding their remit so widely that they fulfil none of it satisfactorily.
I was thinking the same. people need to be less reliant on government. Government could also focus on less things and do them well, but that doesn’t seem to win elections.
I was thinking the same. people need to be less reliant on government. Government could also focus on less things and do them well, but that doesn’t seem to win elections.
For too long now people have been encouraged to look to government for everything as if it was some kind of parent and governments have responded with a suffocating and aspiration killing paternalism, expanding their remit so widely that they fulfil none of it satisfactorily.
Paul T
1 year ago
‘For many people employed by a multinational corporation, their job security is controlled far less by who they elect than by the board of some company sitting thousands of miles away.‘ Good thing! I worked in the private sector for all my career and I’m glad my job security was based on business results, not the whim of some politician who might purge you for the wrong opinions on gender or something.
The poorer regions of the UK have plenty of politics. South Wales has an entire law-making assembly and it seemingly hasn’t led to a greater feeling of control. What would help is more local enterprise, not more local politics.
Jane H
1 year ago
Wait til the Global Pandemic Treaty comes to the fore in May this year handing control over to the obscenely corrupt WHO who will then get to dictate the response to pandemics, lockdowns etc. Then the …. will really hit the fan when people realise their sovereignty is being taken away by global elites. Followed shortly after by the introduction of Global Vaccination Passports. Looks like I for one won’t be travelling anywhere out of the UK soon. It’s all coming, I shall be counting on the long awaited global uprising once people realise the conspiracy theories are true.
Jane H
1 year ago
Wait til the Global Pandemic Treaty comes to the fore in May this year handing control over to the obscenely corrupt WHO who will then get to dictate the response to pandemics, lockdowns etc. Then the …. will really hit the fan when people realise their sovereignty is being taken away by global elites. Followed shortly after by the introduction of Global Vaccination Passports. Looks like I for one won’t be travelling anywhere out of the UK soon. It’s all coming, I shall be counting on the long awaited global uprising once people realise the conspiracy theories are true.
Ian Barton
1 year ago
The folks in the red wall need to think very carefully about their vote at the next election. The Democratic benefit of leaving the EU has been achieved, but any economic benefits may take a generation to be seen. If the current set of Labour MPs form the next government, the ability for the North to achieve future prosperity will be put at significant risk. “Maintaining control” is the only chance it has.
economic benefits may take a generation to be seen.
Global warming is going to make Blackpool competitive?
Tories are done (as they should), and that is a good thing.
Ian Barton
1 year ago
The folks in the red wall need to think very carefully about their vote at the next election. The Democratic benefit of leaving the EU has been achieved, but any economic benefits may take a generation to be seen. If the current set of Labour MPs form the next government, the ability for the North to achieve future prosperity will be put at significant risk. “Maintaining control” is the only chance it has.
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
While it is true that the North East’s period of prosperity coincided with the period when North Eastern businessmen established prosperous coal, shipbuilding, ship owning and other heavy industries the virtue of local control is not necessarily the key to prosperity. The secret to prosperity is fairly straightforward and it doesn’t involve a multiplicity of politicians.
“In the 1960s, the city-state of Singapore was an undeveloped country with a GDP per capita of less than U.S. $320. Today, it is one of the world’s fastest-growing economies. Its GDP per capita has risen to an incredible U.S. $60,000, making it one of the strongest economies in the world. For a small country with few natural resources, Singapore’s economic ascension is nothing short of remarkable.” https://www.thoughtco.com/singapores-economic-development-1434565
What is required is an intelligent focus on educating the population to supply goods and services that people want and minimising anti-business policies. The policies pursued by Lee Kuan Yew’s People’s Action Party focused on this to the exclusion full democracy and delivered prosperity in a way that socialist politicians in the North East would struggle against their ideological instincts to replicate. They also wouldn’t be able to imprison their political opponents as Lee did.
The example of Singapore shows that there’s trade off to be made between prosperity and democracy. Singaporeans have accepted the bargain with their government to give up certain freedoms in exchange for stability, security and a very high standard of living.
Is benevolent dictatorship a perfect system? No. Is it preferable to our chaotic, short-sighted, polarised Western democracies? Maybe.
Not Singapore again…a semi-authoritarian city state far away.
Why don’t you use Denmark as an option?
Surely it would be a better comp?
Netherlands…or are they too tall?
The example of Singapore shows that there’s trade off to be made between prosperity and democracy. Singaporeans have accepted the bargain with their government to give up certain freedoms in exchange for stability, security and a very high standard of living.
Is benevolent dictatorship a perfect system? No. Is it preferable to our chaotic, short-sighted, polarised Western democracies? Maybe.
Not Singapore again…a semi-authoritarian city state far away.
Why don’t you use Denmark as an option?
Surely it would be a better comp?
Netherlands…or are they too tall?
Last edited 1 year ago by Jeremy Smith
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
While it is true that the North East’s period of prosperity coincided with the period when North Eastern businessmen established prosperous coal, shipbuilding, ship owning and other heavy industries the virtue of local control is not necessarily the key to prosperity. The secret to prosperity is fairly straightforward and it doesn’t involve a multiplicity of politicians.
“In the 1960s, the city-state of Singapore was an undeveloped country with a GDP per capita of less than U.S. $320. Today, it is one of the world’s fastest-growing economies. Its GDP per capita has risen to an incredible U.S. $60,000, making it one of the strongest economies in the world. For a small country with few natural resources, Singapore’s economic ascension is nothing short of remarkable.” https://www.thoughtco.com/singapores-economic-development-1434565
What is required is an intelligent focus on educating the population to supply goods and services that people want and minimising anti-business policies. The policies pursued by Lee Kuan Yew’s People’s Action Party focused on this to the exclusion full democracy and delivered prosperity in a way that socialist politicians in the North East would struggle against their ideological instincts to replicate. They also wouldn’t be able to imprison their political opponents as Lee did.
Simon Blanchard
1 year ago
Conspiracy theories are themselves a conspiracy theory designed to distract. Capital has cuckoo’d democracy; it really is that simple and it’s probably now too late to do anything about it. You might as well complain about the weather.
Not something I’ve thought deeply about, but I do read a lot of history. Democracy, or at least the modern version not the classical one, was effectively created by Capital as that created an urban working class which demanded representation and an easing of the bonds of capitalism. So to say that Capital is now destroying democracy is an interesting development, but I suspect not quite right. Maybe it’s Globalisation, which sunders Capital from the control of the people as represented by the State, which is the culprit?
Not something I’ve thought deeply about, but I do read a lot of history. Democracy, or at least the modern version not the classical one, was effectively created by Capital as that created an urban working class which demanded representation and an easing of the bonds of capitalism. So to say that Capital is now destroying democracy is an interesting development, but I suspect not quite right. Maybe it’s Globalisation, which sunders Capital from the control of the people as represented by the State, which is the culprit?
Simon Blanchard
1 year ago
Conspiracy theories are themselves a conspiracy theory designed to distract. Capital has cuckoo’d democracy; it really is that simple and it’s probably now too late to do anything about it. You might as well complain about the weather.
Mark Kennedy
1 year ago
Just a coincidence, obviously, but I’m fresh from reading another Unherd article (the one about ordinary Russians’ feelings about the war in Ukraine, and their susceptibility to propaganda) in which this claim appears:
“The Golden Billion doomsday scenario, for instance, in which powerful Western elites control world events to amass great wealth and destroy ordinary people’s lives, is endorsed by high-ranking officials, such as head of the security council, Nikolai Patrushev, a close ally of Putin.”
To which I replied, in the Comments section:
“It doesn’t sound that far off what numerous people in the west believe, too, and on not unreasonable grounds. One might even classify these people among the more propaganda-resistant.”
Last edited 1 year ago by Mark Kennedy
Mark Kennedy
1 year ago
Just a coincidence, obviously, but I’m fresh from reading another Unherd article (the one about ordinary Russians’ feelings about the war in Ukraine, and their susceptibility to propaganda) in which this claim appears:
“The Golden Billion doomsday scenario, for instance, in which powerful Western elites control world events to amass great wealth and destroy ordinary people’s lives, is endorsed by high-ranking officials, such as head of the security council, Nikolai Patrushev, a close ally of Putin.”
To which I replied, in the Comments section:
“It doesn’t sound that far off what numerous people in the west believe, too, and on not unreasonable grounds. One might even classify these people among the more propaganda-resistant.”
Last edited 1 year ago by Mark Kennedy
Jeremy Smith
1 year ago
but nobody has yet provided any credible answer showing how they can achieve this. And so resentment builds.
There is no credible answer to competition. What are you going to do about Blackpool? Make Spanish vacations illegal?!
Is UK GOV going to kick Nissan out (once the people in Sunderland vote for it?) and replace it with what? BMC Leyland.
Your observation about Spanish vacations points out a real contributing factor: increased globalization – in the sense of increased communication and trade. (Globalization has other downsides too: increased speed of spread of pandemics; refugees; etc.)
But globalization has upsides, too; the current level of prosperity is connected to globalization (not too surprising; larger organizations can be more efficient, due to greater specialization and economies of scale).
What to do? And remember the Great Depression, a ‘recent’ episode of de-globalization.
Your observation about Spanish vacations points out a real contributing factor: increased globalization – in the sense of increased communication and trade. (Globalization has other downsides too: increased speed of spread of pandemics; refugees; etc.)
But globalization has upsides, too; the current level of prosperity is connected to globalization (not too surprising; larger organizations can be more efficient, due to greater specialization and economies of scale).
What to do? And remember the Great Depression, a ‘recent’ episode of de-globalization.
Jeremy Smith
1 year ago
but nobody has yet provided any credible answer showing how they can achieve this. And so resentment builds.
There is no credible answer to competition. What are you going to do about Blackpool? Make Spanish vacations illegal?!
Is UK GOV going to kick Nissan out (once the people in Sunderland vote for it?) and replace it with what? BMC Leyland.
Yes, exactly. I think the terms “secretive elite” and the “liberal elite” are just convenient labels for this (not unjustified) feeling of being controlled by unknown people in places unknown who you suspect don’t live like you, don’t think like you and have no idea what your concerns are.
It’s entirely natural and rational to want to be governed by people you know and by whom you feel understood. But when de facto political power is so far removed from your locality and is also diffusely held (including by people who aren’t politicians) – any attempt to regain control through voting is pure shadowboxing. And what other tools do ordinary citizens have?
I often find myself thinking about the slogan “take back control”…it’s got to be one of the most effective political rallying cries there has ever been, as it goes directly to the heart of this core issue in the governance of a country and who/what matters in it.
Addendum: I’m not sure if the whole film is available in English but the Austrian film “The Farmer and the Hipster” (“Der Bauer und der Bobo”) is really worth watching. Britain is far from being the only country whose population is sliced in two with neither party having a true idea of how the other lives. This film resulted from a clash between the two. You can laugh at the clichéd-looking mountain scenes and think it all nice and twee, but these mountain farmers are incredibly tough guys! Their way of life is a precious part of the culture of the land and if we aren’t careful, it will die out. Credit to Florian Klenk for throwing himself into this – he’s a darned good journalist.
Here’s the trailer with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diGi3nEiprQ
True ‘dat. It’s beginning to feel like a kind of alienation from the means of political control over – who decides what is decent and evil, how to acquire wealth, what is the good life,etc.
Different Weltanschauungs are developing with the barriers between them hardening – a new kind of proletariat ?
If you want to find out more about these ‘secretive elite’ then you could read the best seller ‘The Brotherhood’ by Stephen Knight you will be horrified to find they are in every part of our society and how they control it.
Addendum: I’m not sure if the whole film is available in English but the Austrian film “The Farmer and the Hipster” (“Der Bauer und der Bobo”) is really worth watching. Britain is far from being the only country whose population is sliced in two with neither party having a true idea of how the other lives. This film resulted from a clash between the two. You can laugh at the clichéd-looking mountain scenes and think it all nice and twee, but these mountain farmers are incredibly tough guys! Their way of life is a precious part of the culture of the land and if we aren’t careful, it will die out. Credit to Florian Klenk for throwing himself into this – he’s a darned good journalist.
Here’s the trailer with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diGi3nEiprQ
True ‘dat. It’s beginning to feel like a kind of alienation from the means of political control over – who decides what is decent and evil, how to acquire wealth, what is the good life,etc.
Different Weltanschauungs are developing with the barriers between them hardening – a new kind of proletariat ?
If you want to find out more about these ‘secretive elite’ then you could read the best seller ‘The Brotherhood’ by Stephen Knight you will be horrified to find they are in every part of our society and how they control it.
Yes, exactly. I think the terms “secretive elite” and the “liberal elite” are just convenient labels for this (not unjustified) feeling of being controlled by unknown people in places unknown who you suspect don’t live like you, don’t think like you and have no idea what your concerns are.
It’s entirely natural and rational to want to be governed by people you know and by whom you feel understood. But when de facto political power is so far removed from your locality and is also diffusely held (including by people who aren’t politicians) – any attempt to regain control through voting is pure shadowboxing. And what other tools do ordinary citizens have?
I often find myself thinking about the slogan “take back control”…it’s got to be one of the most effective political rallying cries there has ever been, as it goes directly to the heart of this core issue in the governance of a country and who/what matters in it.
Of course they’re right. Our entire postwar history is the story of a slow but steady accretion of power to the centre, first of the nation state, and then into the hands of a parasitic supranational elite. Because this has been done slowly we have come to accept unquestioningly that George S0ros, Bill Gates and the like who are not even citizens of this country, have more power over our government’s policy than we do. The ultimate symbol of this was the appalling spectacle of a British Minister of State grovelling at the feet of Greta Thunberg.
Yeah…
What are you going to do about Blackpool? Make Spanish vacations illegal?!
I would say that some have come to realise that the Soros, Gates, Schwab fraternity have more control over our lives than elected politicians, although growing that number is still far from the majority. However, the more people realise the true state of affairs the greater the pushback will become hence the impatience of this supranational elite to exert even more control via the imposition of vaccine/bio-metric passports, the digitalisation of currency and the introduction of a Chinese style social credit system. Who will win?
Yeah…
What are you going to do about Blackpool? Make Spanish vacations illegal?!
I would say that some have come to realise that the Soros, Gates, Schwab fraternity have more control over our lives than elected politicians, although growing that number is still far from the majority. However, the more people realise the true state of affairs the greater the pushback will become hence the impatience of this supranational elite to exert even more control via the imposition of vaccine/bio-metric passports, the digitalisation of currency and the introduction of a Chinese style social credit system. Who will win?
Of course they’re right. Our entire postwar history is the story of a slow but steady accretion of power to the centre, first of the nation state, and then into the hands of a parasitic supranational elite. Because this has been done slowly we have come to accept unquestioningly that George S0ros, Bill Gates and the like who are not even citizens of this country, have more power over our government’s policy than we do. The ultimate symbol of this was the appalling spectacle of a British Minister of State grovelling at the feet of Greta Thunberg.
‘For many people employed by a multinational corporation, their job security is controlled far less by who they elect than by the board of some company sitting thousands of miles away.‘ Good thing! I worked in the private sector for all my career and I’m glad my job security was based on business results, not the whim of some politician who might purge you for the wrong opinions on gender or something.
The poorer regions of the UK have plenty of politics. South Wales has an entire law-making assembly and it seemingly hasn’t led to a greater feeling of control. What would help is more local enterprise, not more local politics.
Spot on!
For too long now people have been encouraged to look to government for everything as if it was some kind of parent and governments have responded with a suffocating and aspiration killing paternalism, expanding their remit so widely that they fulfil none of it satisfactorily.
I was thinking the same. people need to be less reliant on government. Government could also focus on less things and do them well, but that doesn’t seem to win elections.
The failure of democracy – it relies on ordinary people. I’m sure Mencken said something apropos.
The failure of democracy – it relies on ordinary people. I’m sure Mencken said something apropos.
I was thinking the same. people need to be less reliant on government. Government could also focus on less things and do them well, but that doesn’t seem to win elections.
Spot on!
For too long now people have been encouraged to look to government for everything as if it was some kind of parent and governments have responded with a suffocating and aspiration killing paternalism, expanding their remit so widely that they fulfil none of it satisfactorily.
‘For many people employed by a multinational corporation, their job security is controlled far less by who they elect than by the board of some company sitting thousands of miles away.‘ Good thing! I worked in the private sector for all my career and I’m glad my job security was based on business results, not the whim of some politician who might purge you for the wrong opinions on gender or something.
The poorer regions of the UK have plenty of politics. South Wales has an entire law-making assembly and it seemingly hasn’t led to a greater feeling of control. What would help is more local enterprise, not more local politics.
Wait til the Global Pandemic Treaty comes to the fore in May this year handing control over to the obscenely corrupt WHO who will then get to dictate the response to pandemics, lockdowns etc. Then the …. will really hit the fan when people realise their sovereignty is being taken away by global elites. Followed shortly after by the introduction of Global Vaccination Passports. Looks like I for one won’t be travelling anywhere out of the UK soon. It’s all coming, I shall be counting on the long awaited global uprising once people realise the conspiracy theories are true.
Wait til the Global Pandemic Treaty comes to the fore in May this year handing control over to the obscenely corrupt WHO who will then get to dictate the response to pandemics, lockdowns etc. Then the …. will really hit the fan when people realise their sovereignty is being taken away by global elites. Followed shortly after by the introduction of Global Vaccination Passports. Looks like I for one won’t be travelling anywhere out of the UK soon. It’s all coming, I shall be counting on the long awaited global uprising once people realise the conspiracy theories are true.
The folks in the red wall need to think very carefully about their vote at the next election. The Democratic benefit of leaving the EU has been achieved, but any economic benefits may take a generation to be seen. If the current set of Labour MPs form the next government, the ability for the North to achieve future prosperity will be put at significant risk. “Maintaining control” is the only chance it has.
Global warming is going to make Blackpool competitive?
Tories are done (as they should), and that is a good thing.
…. no sneaking back in please.
…. no sneaking back in please.
Global warming is going to make Blackpool competitive?
Tories are done (as they should), and that is a good thing.
The folks in the red wall need to think very carefully about their vote at the next election. The Democratic benefit of leaving the EU has been achieved, but any economic benefits may take a generation to be seen. If the current set of Labour MPs form the next government, the ability for the North to achieve future prosperity will be put at significant risk. “Maintaining control” is the only chance it has.
While it is true that the North East’s period of prosperity coincided with the period when North Eastern businessmen established prosperous coal, shipbuilding, ship owning and other heavy industries the virtue of local control is not necessarily the key to prosperity. The secret to prosperity is fairly straightforward and it doesn’t involve a multiplicity of politicians.
“In the 1960s, the city-state of Singapore was an undeveloped country with a GDP per capita of less than U.S. $320. Today, it is one of the world’s fastest-growing economies. Its GDP per capita has risen to an incredible U.S. $60,000, making it one of the strongest economies in the world. For a small country with few natural resources, Singapore’s economic ascension is nothing short of remarkable.”
https://www.thoughtco.com/singapores-economic-development-1434565
What is required is an intelligent focus on educating the population to supply goods and services that people want and minimising anti-business policies. The policies pursued by Lee Kuan Yew’s People’s Action Party focused on this to the exclusion full democracy and delivered prosperity in a way that socialist politicians in the North East would struggle against their ideological instincts to replicate. They also wouldn’t be able to imprison their political opponents as Lee did.
The example of Singapore shows that there’s trade off to be made between prosperity and democracy. Singaporeans have accepted the bargain with their government to give up certain freedoms in exchange for stability, security and a very high standard of living.
Is benevolent dictatorship a perfect system? No. Is it preferable to our chaotic, short-sighted, polarised Western democracies? Maybe.
What is required is cheap energy.
Not Singapore again…a semi-authoritarian city state far away.
Why don’t you use Denmark as an option?
Surely it would be a better comp?
Netherlands…or are they too tall?
The example of Singapore shows that there’s trade off to be made between prosperity and democracy. Singaporeans have accepted the bargain with their government to give up certain freedoms in exchange for stability, security and a very high standard of living.
Is benevolent dictatorship a perfect system? No. Is it preferable to our chaotic, short-sighted, polarised Western democracies? Maybe.
What is required is cheap energy.
Not Singapore again…a semi-authoritarian city state far away.
Why don’t you use Denmark as an option?
Surely it would be a better comp?
Netherlands…or are they too tall?
While it is true that the North East’s period of prosperity coincided with the period when North Eastern businessmen established prosperous coal, shipbuilding, ship owning and other heavy industries the virtue of local control is not necessarily the key to prosperity. The secret to prosperity is fairly straightforward and it doesn’t involve a multiplicity of politicians.
“In the 1960s, the city-state of Singapore was an undeveloped country with a GDP per capita of less than U.S. $320. Today, it is one of the world’s fastest-growing economies. Its GDP per capita has risen to an incredible U.S. $60,000, making it one of the strongest economies in the world. For a small country with few natural resources, Singapore’s economic ascension is nothing short of remarkable.”
https://www.thoughtco.com/singapores-economic-development-1434565
What is required is an intelligent focus on educating the population to supply goods and services that people want and minimising anti-business policies. The policies pursued by Lee Kuan Yew’s People’s Action Party focused on this to the exclusion full democracy and delivered prosperity in a way that socialist politicians in the North East would struggle against their ideological instincts to replicate. They also wouldn’t be able to imprison their political opponents as Lee did.
Conspiracy theories are themselves a conspiracy theory designed to distract. Capital has cuckoo’d democracy; it really is that simple and it’s probably now too late to do anything about it. You might as well complain about the weather.
Not something I’ve thought deeply about, but I do read a lot of history. Democracy, or at least the modern version not the classical one, was effectively created by Capital as that created an urban working class which demanded representation and an easing of the bonds of capitalism. So to say that Capital is now destroying democracy is an interesting development, but I suspect not quite right. Maybe it’s Globalisation, which sunders Capital from the control of the people as represented by the State, which is the culprit?
Good analysis, and one which separates political reality from political theory.
Good analysis, and one which separates political reality from political theory.
Not something I’ve thought deeply about, but I do read a lot of history. Democracy, or at least the modern version not the classical one, was effectively created by Capital as that created an urban working class which demanded representation and an easing of the bonds of capitalism. So to say that Capital is now destroying democracy is an interesting development, but I suspect not quite right. Maybe it’s Globalisation, which sunders Capital from the control of the people as represented by the State, which is the culprit?
Conspiracy theories are themselves a conspiracy theory designed to distract. Capital has cuckoo’d democracy; it really is that simple and it’s probably now too late to do anything about it. You might as well complain about the weather.
Just a coincidence, obviously, but I’m fresh from reading another Unherd article (the one about ordinary Russians’ feelings about the war in Ukraine, and their susceptibility to propaganda) in which this claim appears:
“The Golden Billion doomsday scenario, for instance, in which powerful Western elites control world events to amass great wealth and destroy ordinary people’s lives, is endorsed by high-ranking officials, such as head of the security council, Nikolai Patrushev, a close ally of Putin.”
To which I replied, in the Comments section:
“It doesn’t sound that far off what numerous people in the west believe, too, and on not unreasonable grounds. One might even classify these people among the more propaganda-resistant.”
Just a coincidence, obviously, but I’m fresh from reading another Unherd article (the one about ordinary Russians’ feelings about the war in Ukraine, and their susceptibility to propaganda) in which this claim appears:
“The Golden Billion doomsday scenario, for instance, in which powerful Western elites control world events to amass great wealth and destroy ordinary people’s lives, is endorsed by high-ranking officials, such as head of the security council, Nikolai Patrushev, a close ally of Putin.”
To which I replied, in the Comments section:
“It doesn’t sound that far off what numerous people in the west believe, too, and on not unreasonable grounds. One might even classify these people among the more propaganda-resistant.”
There is no credible answer to competition. What are you going to do about Blackpool? Make Spanish vacations illegal?!
Is UK GOV going to kick Nissan out (once the people in Sunderland vote for it?) and replace it with what? BMC Leyland.
Your observation about Spanish vacations points out a real contributing factor: increased globalization – in the sense of increased communication and trade. (Globalization has other downsides too: increased speed of spread of pandemics; refugees; etc.)
But globalization has upsides, too; the current level of prosperity is connected to globalization (not too surprising; larger organizations can be more efficient, due to greater specialization and economies of scale).
What to do? And remember the Great Depression, a ‘recent’ episode of de-globalization.
Your observation about Spanish vacations points out a real contributing factor: increased globalization – in the sense of increased communication and trade. (Globalization has other downsides too: increased speed of spread of pandemics; refugees; etc.)
But globalization has upsides, too; the current level of prosperity is connected to globalization (not too surprising; larger organizations can be more efficient, due to greater specialization and economies of scale).
What to do? And remember the Great Depression, a ‘recent’ episode of de-globalization.
There is no credible answer to competition. What are you going to do about Blackpool? Make Spanish vacations illegal?!
Is UK GOV going to kick Nissan out (once the people in Sunderland vote for it?) and replace it with what? BMC Leyland.