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stephen archer
stephen archer
1 year ago

Does anyone know how to handle China? Even Putin’s attempts are doubtful in the long term.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago
Reply to  stephen archer

Not so much doubtful as doomed. Once China saw how inept the Russian Army actually is, Russia was immediately the junior partner in that relationship. Russia is now reduced to selling its oil to China (and India) at rock-bottom prices.
Next, watch as China replaces the western oil and gas majors as part owners of Russian natural resources.

Mike Bell
Mike Bell
1 year ago

I suggest that politicians in the UK (and West in general) are so ignorant of China that they are unlikely to enact sensible policies.
If you listen to them (or the MSM) all they know about is Tianamen Square, Hong Kong democracy and Uyigars internment.
The fact that China is the producer of much of the non-food products we consume is treated as though it’s ‘just there’ (rather as a child assumes that food appears on the table).
Based on almost no knowledge and endless repetition of these three issues, I will probably receive many ‘dislikes’ for even saying something positive.

  • They’ve got a rover on the far side of the Moon.
  • They brought 500 million people out of poverty.
  • They have more high-speed rail than Europe and plans to double it.
  • They switched factories to PPE in weeks – something we could not do in 2 yrs.

Wake up.

Graham Strugnell
Graham Strugnell
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Bell

And they brutally suppressed the doctors and citizens who tried to warn about COVID in Wuhan. They are efficient because they drive a tank through human rights and have more CCTV monitoring their citizens than anywhere on earth. Wake up.

William Adams
William Adams
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Bell

Yes, and look what all that PPE achieved: endless, draconian lockdowns of major cities in pursuit of the chimera of zero covid. Not helped, of course, by the fact that China’s innovative wizardry has produced no effective vaccine.

Aaron James
Aaron James
1 year ago

Quisling?

M. M.
M. M.
1 year ago

Yuan Yi Zhu wrote, “[Rishi] Sunak then tried to out-hawk [Liz Truss] on China, in such strong terms that even traditional China hawks within the Conservative Party showed some disquiet.”

China is not worse than India.

Consider their handling of Russia. Beijing expressed support for Russia in its war against Ukraine but actually did nothing to actually help the Kremlin. A Chinese company (in which Beijing is a stakeholder) that manufactures drones actually exited Russia after the war began. 

By contrast, New Delhi has been helping Russia to evade sanctions since 2014, the year in which the Kremlin seized Crimea. 40% of Indians support the Russians’ military brutality in Ukraine. (See the reference.)

The culture of India is not Western. The presence of Indians in the West will make its culture more barbaric. Indeed, 30% of the Australian population were born in another country. The majority of these foreigners come from non-Western countries: the plurality of the non-Westerners come from India.  Not coincidentally, Australia had the harshest lockdown during the pandemic; Fox News has video recordings of Australian police brutally assaulting protestors in a manner that reminds us of the Russian police.

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Last edited 1 year ago by M. M.
Dominic London
Dominic London
1 year ago
Reply to  M. M.

How many of those police officers were Indian?

Simon Johnson
Simon Johnson
1 year ago
Reply to  M. M.

Your post is utter nonsense. Citizens of Indian origin comprise around 3% of the Australian population. They are not even close to the largest migrant community.

Nor did Australian police brutally assault protesters. They arrested a small number of anti-lockdown protesters who destroyed property and attacked police.

You are simply making things up.

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago
Reply to  M. M.

Most police forces in the world have at least a smattering of thugs. Some protesters deserve a good kicking.