China is dependent on the trade imbalance with the West to fund its growth. The ‘China Miracle’ has been funded that way for the last 50 years. Manufacturing has migrated there from the West as orchestrated by consulting firms under the guise of maximizing share holder value. By shifting the value-added of the actual production of goods to China the multinational corporations have increased profits at the expense of Western workers who used to make things.
Now we are dependent on China to make what we need and have given the CCP the tools to hold our supply chains hostage. As the article points out, China is trying to increase internal consumption with the goal of replacing the Western cash inflow. Their population is certainly large enough, but still very poor and likely to stay that way.
The structural problems of the Communist central planning system have been concealed by mountains of Western Cash for 50 years.
The West needs to decouple from China to keep Xi from executing his stated plan for world domination.
Note: I think it is no coincidence that the WEF was formed 50 years ago.
The vast flow of capital into China from the West under the banner of ‘globalisation’ has been a long term economic disaster for our so-called democratic world. Political leaders like Clinton, Obama, Blair and Cameron, to name a few prominent examples, who facilitated the dismantling of Western industries in order to transplant these into China to benefit capitalist shareholders via lower production/employment costs. They thereby created an economic disaster from which the West may never recover. The current economic, political and economic instability in the world is as much a consequence of these disastrous policies and actions as anything else. These are people who (ab)used their power to implement change for the sake of change, to reconfigure the world order and in so doing to ensure their gigantic egos will be fixed in the annals of history – all of them being far too wealthy to suffer the consequences of their actions.
Julian- Your comment is on the mark, but I do need to point out that these policy choices were (and continue to be) based on the concept that China would yield to the lure of Capitalism. The rise of China followed the death of Mao and the Chinese Miracle was orchestrated by Deng Xiaoping (Chairman 1982-1987). That convinced the newly expanding international corporations along with the emerging WEF that China would fall in line. The collapse of the Soviet Union lulled them into the idea that Communism was dead and the world was ready for full domination by the Western capitalist. They were all in on the idea that the Third World would make and the First World would take. Xi Jinping took over in 2012. His father was a pure Communist sent to the gulag after the death of Mao who promulgated the disasterous Cultural Revolution. Xi has cashed in on the money gladly supplied by the Western World and moved the CCP and China back to a purer form of Communism. He is smart, rational and completely convinced that China is destined for world domination. The WEF is still pandering to China with their ‘Great Reset’ ignoring the likely reality that should China achieve its goal, they will be the first folks stripped of their wealth and sent to the gulag.
It is time the Western World wakes up to this reality and understand that the real existential threat to us is China.
The real threat is China, right? Because China has been the one terrorizing the planet the past 4 centuries, hey? China is lifting its people out of poverty and is helping the Global South do the same through the BRI. No longer do poor countries need to rely on exporting real wealth for useless fiat dollars in return which can only be re-invested into the dollar economy (bonds etc) because the goods have been exported abroad. The real threat was and always will be that certain group that has acquire the “right” that our “liberal democracies” love to exercise so much, i.e. The State of Exception, as a status for itself as a group of people. The True Sovereign is the one outside the limits of the law and the limits of scrutiny. The one who decides on The State of Exception and now is, in fact, the perennial State of Exception reified in world politics. They wield the apotheosis of power on this planet, a power so all-pervasive and limitless, its unfathomable. Those whom may never be named. Stop watching Fox News and read a book ffs, your erudition is non-existent.
I have no illusion that the Western capitalistic model is a paragon of virtue. Unfettered capitalism is abusive to the workers and the environment. However the current Western system–with government controls to moderate its excesses to a certain extent–is far better than what is currently happening in China. The innovations in technology from the first industrial revolution (1860-1910) and since then all primarily sprung from those living under an enlightened capitalistic system. The living standards of the common man/woman have improved immeasurably during those periods of innovation. The Chinese have a long history of invention under their feudal system, but under communisim they have simply appropriated technology from the West to advance their living standards. The suppression of independent thought and expression under the CCP is stifling. I would suggest the dialogue here in Unherd would not be allowed under a CCP governance.
I have no illusion that the Western capitalistic model is a paragon of virtue. Unfettered capitalism is abusive to the workers and the environment. However the current Western system–with government controls to moderate its excesses to a certain extent–is far better than what is currently happening in China. The innovations in technology from the first industrial revolution (1860-1910) and since then all primarily sprung from those living under an enlightened capitalistic system. The living standards of the common man/woman have improved immeasurably during those periods of innovation. The Chinese have a long history of invention under their feudal system, but under communisim they have simply appropriated technology from the West to advance their living standards. The suppression of independent thought and expression under the CCP is stifling. I would suggest the dialogue here in Unherd would not be allowed under a CCP governance.
But you like the globalists and capitalists or not. First you say that they are greed and because of that the west sent it’s money to China. In the end you say that the need to wake up so capitalists don’t be the first to loose their wealth and go to goulag. As I there there are capitalists in China too. And they are so rich… And, as I know, nowadays are the capitalists that take everything from us in the so called democracies and send us to the goulag. Because poor people are going to the goulag of living in the streets, in poverty and misery. And are not the Chinese doing it. Are the ones you say that have to open their eyes. They have them opened. But China has been the most advanced country in the world since 2000 years onward, with the exception of the las 250. And why? Because of the exploitation of the ones you say that sold out economies to China. And China has the right, as a great and populated country of getting out of poverty? Or not? The consequence of that is that, because of it’s dimension, China will be the most influential country. But that doesn’t mean that they wanto to rule the world like western imperialists and globalists want. China only wants to trade. China never in its entire history expanded outside it’s frontiers. And it’s not doing it now. That’s just the propaganda done by you lovely globalists and capitalists, the ones that you want to save. We are the ones to be saved, not them.
The real threat is China, right? Because China has been the one terrorizing the planet the past 4 centuries, hey? China is lifting its people out of poverty and is helping the Global South do the same through the BRI. No longer do poor countries need to rely on exporting real wealth for useless fiat dollars in return which can only be re-invested into the dollar economy (bonds etc) because the goods have been exported abroad. The real threat was and always will be that certain group that has acquire the “right” that our “liberal democracies” love to exercise so much, i.e. The State of Exception, as a status for itself as a group of people. The True Sovereign is the one outside the limits of the law and the limits of scrutiny. The one who decides on The State of Exception and now is, in fact, the perennial State of Exception reified in world politics. They wield the apotheosis of power on this planet, a power so all-pervasive and limitless, its unfathomable. Those whom may never be named. Stop watching Fox News and read a book ffs, your erudition is non-existent.
But you like the globalists and capitalists or not. First you say that they are greed and because of that the west sent it’s money to China. In the end you say that the need to wake up so capitalists don’t be the first to loose their wealth and go to goulag. As I there there are capitalists in China too. And they are so rich… And, as I know, nowadays are the capitalists that take everything from us in the so called democracies and send us to the goulag. Because poor people are going to the goulag of living in the streets, in poverty and misery. And are not the Chinese doing it. Are the ones you say that have to open their eyes. They have them opened. But China has been the most advanced country in the world since 2000 years onward, with the exception of the las 250. And why? Because of the exploitation of the ones you say that sold out economies to China. And China has the right, as a great and populated country of getting out of poverty? Or not? The consequence of that is that, because of it’s dimension, China will be the most influential country. But that doesn’t mean that they wanto to rule the world like western imperialists and globalists want. China only wants to trade. China never in its entire history expanded outside it’s frontiers. And it’s not doing it now. That’s just the propaganda done by you lovely globalists and capitalists, the ones that you want to save. We are the ones to be saved, not them.
Julian- Your comment is on the mark, but I do need to point out that these policy choices were (and continue to be) based on the concept that China would yield to the lure of Capitalism. The rise of China followed the death of Mao and the Chinese Miracle was orchestrated by Deng Xiaoping (Chairman 1982-1987). That convinced the newly expanding international corporations along with the emerging WEF that China would fall in line. The collapse of the Soviet Union lulled them into the idea that Communism was dead and the world was ready for full domination by the Western capitalist. They were all in on the idea that the Third World would make and the First World would take. Xi Jinping took over in 2012. His father was a pure Communist sent to the gulag after the death of Mao who promulgated the disasterous Cultural Revolution. Xi has cashed in on the money gladly supplied by the Western World and moved the CCP and China back to a purer form of Communism. He is smart, rational and completely convinced that China is destined for world domination. The WEF is still pandering to China with their ‘Great Reset’ ignoring the likely reality that should China achieve its goal, they will be the first folks stripped of their wealth and sent to the gulag.
It is time the Western World wakes up to this reality and understand that the real existential threat to us is China.
The vast flow of capital into China from the West under the banner of ‘globalisation’ has been a long term economic disaster for our so-called democratic world. Political leaders like Clinton, Obama, Blair and Cameron, to name a few prominent examples, who facilitated the dismantling of Western industries in order to transplant these into China to benefit capitalist shareholders via lower production/employment costs. They thereby created an economic disaster from which the West may never recover. The current economic, political and economic instability in the world is as much a consequence of these disastrous policies and actions as anything else. These are people who (ab)used their power to implement change for the sake of change, to reconfigure the world order and in so doing to ensure their gigantic egos will be fixed in the annals of history – all of them being far too wealthy to suffer the consequences of their actions.
Stan Konwiser
11 months ago
China is dependent on the trade imbalance with the West to fund its growth. The ‘China Miracle’ has been funded that way for the last 50 years. Manufacturing has migrated there from the West as orchestrated by consulting firms under the guise of maximizing share holder value. By shifting the value-added of the actual production of goods to China the multinational corporations have increased profits at the expense of Western workers who used to make things.
Now we are dependent on China to make what we need and have given the CCP the tools to hold our supply chains hostage. As the article points out, China is trying to increase internal consumption with the goal of replacing the Western cash inflow. Their population is certainly large enough, but still very poor and likely to stay that way.
The structural problems of the Communist central planning system have been concealed by mountains of Western Cash for 50 years.
The West needs to decouple from China to keep Xi from executing his stated plan for world domination.
Note: I think it is no coincidence that the WEF was formed 50 years ago.
N T
11 months ago
Unfortunately, when China gooses manufacturing, it has the opposite effect on western manufacturing, since China has a labor cost advantage. I don’t know of any other industries that have such a large lever effect on a nation, since the pass-through in manufacturing is so large.
N T
11 months ago
Unfortunately, when China gooses manufacturing, it has the opposite effect on western manufacturing, since China has a labor cost advantage. I don’t know of any other industries that have such a large lever effect on a nation, since the pass-through in manufacturing is so large.
China is dependent on the trade imbalance with the West to fund its growth. The ‘China Miracle’ has been funded that way for the last 50 years. Manufacturing has migrated there from the West as orchestrated by consulting firms under the guise of maximizing share holder value. By shifting the value-added of the actual production of goods to China the multinational corporations have increased profits at the expense of Western workers who used to make things.
Now we are dependent on China to make what we need and have given the CCP the tools to hold our supply chains hostage. As the article points out, China is trying to increase internal consumption with the goal of replacing the Western cash inflow. Their population is certainly large enough, but still very poor and likely to stay that way.
The structural problems of the Communist central planning system have been concealed by mountains of Western Cash for 50 years.
The West needs to decouple from China to keep Xi from executing his stated plan for world domination.
Note: I think it is no coincidence that the WEF was formed 50 years ago.
The vast flow of capital into China from the West under the banner of ‘globalisation’ has been a long term economic disaster for our so-called democratic world. Political leaders like Clinton, Obama, Blair and Cameron, to name a few prominent examples, who facilitated the dismantling of Western industries in order to transplant these into China to benefit capitalist shareholders via lower production/employment costs. They thereby created an economic disaster from which the West may never recover. The current economic, political and economic instability in the world is as much a consequence of these disastrous policies and actions as anything else. These are people who (ab)used their power to implement change for the sake of change, to reconfigure the world order and in so doing to ensure their gigantic egos will be fixed in the annals of history – all of them being far too wealthy to suffer the consequences of their actions.
Julian- Your comment is on the mark, but I do need to point out that these policy choices were (and continue to be) based on the concept that China would yield to the lure of Capitalism. The rise of China followed the death of Mao and the Chinese Miracle was orchestrated by Deng Xiaoping (Chairman 1982-1987). That convinced the newly expanding international corporations along with the emerging WEF that China would fall in line. The collapse of the Soviet Union lulled them into the idea that Communism was dead and the world was ready for full domination by the Western capitalist. They were all in on the idea that the Third World would make and the First World would take. Xi Jinping took over in 2012. His father was a pure Communist sent to the gulag after the death of Mao who promulgated the disasterous Cultural Revolution. Xi has cashed in on the money gladly supplied by the Western World and moved the CCP and China back to a purer form of Communism. He is smart, rational and completely convinced that China is destined for world domination. The WEF is still pandering to China with their ‘Great Reset’ ignoring the likely reality that should China achieve its goal, they will be the first folks stripped of their wealth and sent to the gulag.
It is time the Western World wakes up to this reality and understand that the real existential threat to us is China.
The real threat is China, right? Because China has been the one terrorizing the planet the past 4 centuries, hey? China is lifting its people out of poverty and is helping the Global South do the same through the BRI. No longer do poor countries need to rely on exporting real wealth for useless fiat dollars in return which can only be re-invested into the dollar economy (bonds etc) because the goods have been exported abroad. The real threat was and always will be that certain group that has acquire the “right” that our “liberal democracies” love to exercise so much, i.e. The State of Exception, as a status for itself as a group of people. The True Sovereign is the one outside the limits of the law and the limits of scrutiny. The one who decides on The State of Exception and now is, in fact, the perennial State of Exception reified in world politics. They wield the apotheosis of power on this planet, a power so all-pervasive and limitless, its unfathomable. Those whom may never be named. Stop watching Fox News and read a book ffs, your erudition is non-existent.
I have no illusion that the Western capitalistic model is a paragon of virtue. Unfettered capitalism is abusive to the workers and the environment. However the current Western system–with government controls to moderate its excesses to a certain extent–is far better than what is currently happening in China. The innovations in technology from the first industrial revolution (1860-1910) and since then all primarily sprung from those living under an enlightened capitalistic system. The living standards of the common man/woman have improved immeasurably during those periods of innovation. The Chinese have a long history of invention under their feudal system, but under communisim they have simply appropriated technology from the West to advance their living standards. The suppression of independent thought and expression under the CCP is stifling. I would suggest the dialogue here in Unherd would not be allowed under a CCP governance.
I have no illusion that the Western capitalistic model is a paragon of virtue. Unfettered capitalism is abusive to the workers and the environment. However the current Western system–with government controls to moderate its excesses to a certain extent–is far better than what is currently happening in China. The innovations in technology from the first industrial revolution (1860-1910) and since then all primarily sprung from those living under an enlightened capitalistic system. The living standards of the common man/woman have improved immeasurably during those periods of innovation. The Chinese have a long history of invention under their feudal system, but under communisim they have simply appropriated technology from the West to advance their living standards. The suppression of independent thought and expression under the CCP is stifling. I would suggest the dialogue here in Unherd would not be allowed under a CCP governance.
But you like the globalists and capitalists or not. First you say that they are greed and because of that the west sent it’s money to China. In the end you say that the need to wake up so capitalists don’t be the first to loose their wealth and go to goulag. As I there there are capitalists in China too. And they are so rich… And, as I know, nowadays are the capitalists that take everything from us in the so called democracies and send us to the goulag. Because poor people are going to the goulag of living in the streets, in poverty and misery. And are not the Chinese doing it. Are the ones you say that have to open their eyes. They have them opened. But China has been the most advanced country in the world since 2000 years onward, with the exception of the las 250. And why? Because of the exploitation of the ones you say that sold out economies to China. And China has the right, as a great and populated country of getting out of poverty? Or not? The consequence of that is that, because of it’s dimension, China will be the most influential country. But that doesn’t mean that they wanto to rule the world like western imperialists and globalists want. China only wants to trade. China never in its entire history expanded outside it’s frontiers. And it’s not doing it now. That’s just the propaganda done by you lovely globalists and capitalists, the ones that you want to save. We are the ones to be saved, not them.
The real threat is China, right? Because China has been the one terrorizing the planet the past 4 centuries, hey? China is lifting its people out of poverty and is helping the Global South do the same through the BRI. No longer do poor countries need to rely on exporting real wealth for useless fiat dollars in return which can only be re-invested into the dollar economy (bonds etc) because the goods have been exported abroad. The real threat was and always will be that certain group that has acquire the “right” that our “liberal democracies” love to exercise so much, i.e. The State of Exception, as a status for itself as a group of people. The True Sovereign is the one outside the limits of the law and the limits of scrutiny. The one who decides on The State of Exception and now is, in fact, the perennial State of Exception reified in world politics. They wield the apotheosis of power on this planet, a power so all-pervasive and limitless, its unfathomable. Those whom may never be named. Stop watching Fox News and read a book ffs, your erudition is non-existent.
But you like the globalists and capitalists or not. First you say that they are greed and because of that the west sent it’s money to China. In the end you say that the need to wake up so capitalists don’t be the first to loose their wealth and go to goulag. As I there there are capitalists in China too. And they are so rich… And, as I know, nowadays are the capitalists that take everything from us in the so called democracies and send us to the goulag. Because poor people are going to the goulag of living in the streets, in poverty and misery. And are not the Chinese doing it. Are the ones you say that have to open their eyes. They have them opened. But China has been the most advanced country in the world since 2000 years onward, with the exception of the las 250. And why? Because of the exploitation of the ones you say that sold out economies to China. And China has the right, as a great and populated country of getting out of poverty? Or not? The consequence of that is that, because of it’s dimension, China will be the most influential country. But that doesn’t mean that they wanto to rule the world like western imperialists and globalists want. China only wants to trade. China never in its entire history expanded outside it’s frontiers. And it’s not doing it now. That’s just the propaganda done by you lovely globalists and capitalists, the ones that you want to save. We are the ones to be saved, not them.
The chinese leadership called Cameron and Osborne “the posh boys”.
Julian- Your comment is on the mark, but I do need to point out that these policy choices were (and continue to be) based on the concept that China would yield to the lure of Capitalism. The rise of China followed the death of Mao and the Chinese Miracle was orchestrated by Deng Xiaoping (Chairman 1982-1987). That convinced the newly expanding international corporations along with the emerging WEF that China would fall in line. The collapse of the Soviet Union lulled them into the idea that Communism was dead and the world was ready for full domination by the Western capitalist. They were all in on the idea that the Third World would make and the First World would take. Xi Jinping took over in 2012. His father was a pure Communist sent to the gulag after the death of Mao who promulgated the disasterous Cultural Revolution. Xi has cashed in on the money gladly supplied by the Western World and moved the CCP and China back to a purer form of Communism. He is smart, rational and completely convinced that China is destined for world domination. The WEF is still pandering to China with their ‘Great Reset’ ignoring the likely reality that should China achieve its goal, they will be the first folks stripped of their wealth and sent to the gulag.
It is time the Western World wakes up to this reality and understand that the real existential threat to us is China.
The chinese leadership called Cameron and Osborne “the posh boys”.
The vast flow of capital into China from the West under the banner of ‘globalisation’ has been a long term economic disaster for our so-called democratic world. Political leaders like Clinton, Obama, Blair and Cameron, to name a few prominent examples, who facilitated the dismantling of Western industries in order to transplant these into China to benefit capitalist shareholders via lower production/employment costs. They thereby created an economic disaster from which the West may never recover. The current economic, political and economic instability in the world is as much a consequence of these disastrous policies and actions as anything else. These are people who (ab)used their power to implement change for the sake of change, to reconfigure the world order and in so doing to ensure their gigantic egos will be fixed in the annals of history – all of them being far too wealthy to suffer the consequences of their actions.
China is dependent on the trade imbalance with the West to fund its growth. The ‘China Miracle’ has been funded that way for the last 50 years. Manufacturing has migrated there from the West as orchestrated by consulting firms under the guise of maximizing share holder value. By shifting the value-added of the actual production of goods to China the multinational corporations have increased profits at the expense of Western workers who used to make things.
Now we are dependent on China to make what we need and have given the CCP the tools to hold our supply chains hostage. As the article points out, China is trying to increase internal consumption with the goal of replacing the Western cash inflow. Their population is certainly large enough, but still very poor and likely to stay that way.
The structural problems of the Communist central planning system have been concealed by mountains of Western Cash for 50 years.
The West needs to decouple from China to keep Xi from executing his stated plan for world domination.
Note: I think it is no coincidence that the WEF was formed 50 years ago.
Unfortunately, when China gooses manufacturing, it has the opposite effect on western manufacturing, since China has a labor cost advantage. I don’t know of any other industries that have such a large lever effect on a nation, since the pass-through in manufacturing is so large.
Unfortunately, when China gooses manufacturing, it has the opposite effect on western manufacturing, since China has a labor cost advantage. I don’t know of any other industries that have such a large lever effect on a nation, since the pass-through in manufacturing is so large.