Ms Watson, fight the good fight. Win or lose, you will emerge tougher and better than the safe-spacers/offense-takers. When I was at Cambridge it was a bastion of free speech and robust debate. It will be so again only when the students and staff demand that it is. Since staff put their jobs in danger by standing up to these new orthodoxies, it is students like yourself who have least to lose, and maybe most to gain. Good luck and god bless.
Michael Dawson
3 years ago
A sad story. On a related theme, yesterday’s news story on the BBC website about the resignation of the chairman of the FA was preceded by words to the effect “some readers may find this article contains offensive language”. I missed what was offensive, but apparently it was the use of the word “coloured”. I have just read another article on the BBC website which tries to explain why this word is offensive. For a UK reader, it is hard to understand, as much of the word’s offensiveness seems to be mainly relevant to a US audience. Maybe it was not the best word to use, but was what the guy said really that offensive? I do think the over-reaction in these cases does racial equality no great favours.
Apparently what he said was a ”grisly compilation of stereotypes”: in the words of Sanjay Bhandari, chairman of Kick It Out. Seems he said something about Asian IT workers, and a comment about gay people. But I totally agree with you. Freedom has died in the UK; freedom of speech has been utterly destroyed. It is tragic.
I worked in IT for many years and South Asians are heavily over-represented in comparison to their numbers in the population. So it’s not a false stereotype to say that maybe South Asians are more interested in a career in IT than a career in football. Certainly nothing to lose his livelihood for.
For anyone it’s hard to understand. There was a time in the US when saying “colored people” was the polite reference to blacks. That was before black itself started being used, followed by AA and the now silly ‘people of color’ which is about half-step from colored people all by itself.
What this episode does, or should do, is highlight the idiocy of trying to pin cutesy labels on things when simple terms exist. Black, white; they are perfectly acceptable words.
Why is ‘coloured person’ wrong and ‘Person of Colour’ (POC) right? Was this really just a chance to get rid of another middle-aged, middle-class white man and replace him – ideally with a POC?
Yes, I was going to mention Gopal, but you beat me to it. However, I’ll add, although it is well known already, that this putrid and odious racist creature was recently promoted to a full professorship by the sink-hole formerly known as Cambridge University shortly after saying White was trash. I hope Sophie isn’t studying English where this toxic strumpet peddles her bile. Sophie should find another university to study at, although half of them are utter trash and the other half similarly infected with the virus of ‘wokeism’ and stupidity, and so her choice would be difficult.
That was worth reading just for the “toxic strumpet”. Yes let’s take their terms and put them into service with the glorious forbidden language of the unWoken.
Jordan Peterson. The offer of a visiting professorship withdrawn under the duress of woke opposition. The governmentneeds to introduce legislation making universities do their job of being places of free thought and expression, fining them heavily for allowing the kind of injustices Sophie Watson describes. I’m ashamed to be a Cambridge graduate.
Hang on, didn’t the Daily Mail just apologize for misrepresenting her?
Anya Chaika
3 years ago
I agree that this intolerance of dissent is increasingly a feature of contemporary western society. However, I have found that face-to-face discussion conducted in a civilised setting goes a long way in terms of discussing diverse opinions.
Adversarial and anonymous forums on Facebook and other social media cause so much unthinking intolerance and group-think.
I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic. These people (the ones “policing speech”, etc.) have no interest in discussion. They are very open about that point. They don’t argue in good faith with those they deem heretics and those they denounce for blasphemy. I assure you, they would excoriate you for using the term “civilised” and would mock your call for “diverse opinions” as colonialist and oppressive. This is what they do.
Jeremy Poynton
3 years ago
Well of course it does. When Pomo (actually, simply nihilism in fancy dress) hit the ground, it hit the ground in academia, where for a long time it was corralled, damaging only those students whose brains they turned to pulp. My stepdaughter for one, a very bright lass who emerged from 4 years at SOAS with a severe case of ideological possession.
Then it spilled over into the public sector and now the corporate world. It’s toxic, and and truly “c”onservative government would have put it to the sword way back. Instead they rolled over.
FUBAR.
Jasmine Birtles
3 years ago
Thank goodness we have UnHerd for the voices that others suppress.
I do agree with your points here and sadly none of it surprises me. All. universities seem to have this toxic atmosphere now and Cambridge, particularly, should be ashamed of itself for not supporting women’s rights here.
Fraser Bailey
3 years ago
‘When I arrived at Cambridge, I thought I was joining a bastion of free speech and robust debate.’
Then, quite plainly. you have not been following the news or staying abreast of cultural trends for some years, particularly as they relate to Cambridge and every other university in the land.
Brian Dorsley
3 years ago
This is what happens when we let the insufferably stupid go to college and obtain degrees.
I think you will find that they are not _stupid_, i.e. the opposite of intelligent, but rather _foolish_, the opposite of wise. Indeed, many seem to perfectly embody the sort of foolishness you can only get when you decide that you are too clever to need wisdom. Looks like the plan of producing people who combine intelligence and wisdom by training wisdom in clever people at university has failed. The clever people gamed the system, as they always do, to make it possible to succeed without wisdom.
Very well put Laura. Perhaps a large factor in today’s problems is that wisdom (or lack thereof) is not taken into consideration when political decisions are made.
None of them seem to be able to see beyond the “obvious truths” of their ideology (until they misstep and are eaten alive by ex soulmates) and even contemplate the idea that someone might have a perfectly valid reason for another point of view. It would be better if they could try to work out why someone “could possibly” have a divergent view.
Very well said indeed. I have met very many clever people who went to Oxbridge (or any number of other worthy institutions), and I have met a significantly smaller number of wise people. Sadly, there appears to be little correlation between the two groups.
This is not really surprising :I do not think that it is the business of universities to inculcate wisdom, but if you are lucky, you might gain the insight and tools to develop it for youself. Personally, I think that it should be easier to develop widom if you are educated, but as you rightly say, sometimes learning just gets in the way.
One small point : clever people don’t game the system. It’s cunning people who do that.
I remember when people really did expect to become wiser by attending university. It was where you were supposed to get the broadening experiences that, in a properly reflective soul, would lend itself to that. But for this to work out, you really need plenty of time for just sitting around and thinking, and lots of room for making errors.
These days students don’t have the thinking time to become wise — all the time is spent ‘learning new skills’ which is precisely what they don’t need, instead of developing better judgement. And, as this article points out, a huge class of errors now get you cancelled.
I think it is the Cambridge faculties that have become infested with “Theory”. The students are clever and young and impressionable. Though this is not true of all of them, perhaps not even the majority, as Sophie clearly demonstrates.
Fair points, but as far as ‘impressionable’ goes, isn’t intelligence supposed to play a role in sorting out the sense from the nonsense – or is it common sense that is lacking?
Indeed, and obtaining degrees from insufferably stupid colleges and universities, with Cambridge topping the charts for its toxicity.
Diana Durham
3 years ago
This is so sad to hear. But you do a good job of articulating the issues and the fallacy behind it all. Thanks for the article. And, stay with it. Ultimately, the soul and intellect of this country will move past and in the process allow to transform these toxic and blinkered lies.
william83
3 years ago
There is one sharp and direct answer to the frightened clowns who clad themselves in an opinion protective cloak that they fear may be pierced by the thrust of opinions challenging their own. And it is this: “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” United Nations, Universal Declaration of Human Rights
deborahw
3 years ago
The Female Sex is an exclusive identifiable group. We have a right to our legal existence as such. Let’s not allow anyone to erase us!
William Cameron
3 years ago
No university should be allowed a charter if it denies freedom of speech . It is by definition a disqualification for being a university .
Andrea X
3 years ago
Why not publish your piece on Unherd?
David
3 years ago
IMHO a distinction has been missed in the debate about trans vs women’s rights. The problem arises not from trans activities in general, but specifically M2F trans people wanting to enter protected feminine spaces. Whereas it is possible to see trans rights as belonging to a wider class of liberation issues such as women’s liberation and LGBTI liberation from restrictive social and sexual stereotypes, it does not follow that liberation carries rights to penetrate spaces that have been traditionally reserved for women.
Alex Lekas
3 years ago
Freedom is slavery. Because of course it is. Stifling dissent is what totalitarians do.
Lady Marchmain
3 years ago
Remember; this was the university that rescinded the invitation to Professor Jordan Peterson for much the same reasons. Cambridge University has reduced itself to being one, big echo chamber that happens to be housed in unearned splendour.
Sandy Anthony
3 years ago
It sounds as if the budding journalists at Varsity are on track for successful careers at The Guardian.
Angela Frith
3 years ago
Sacking a man for holding liberal and moderate views? This sort of nonsense provokes reaction. The authorities at Cambridge need to remember who is in charge. Ha
Yasmin Lalani
3 years ago
It seems that the radical woke left needs to cast their minds back to middle school when, at least most of us, were taught about and participated in “debating” in English class, or even, in after school “Debate Clubs”. If we can’t debate and still shake hands at the end if we don’t agree with another view, or even agree with parts of a particular stance but not others, then we are headed down a very dangerous path. 1984. Thank you for writing this article, Sophie.
Michael Cowling
3 years ago
Not so long ago I worked for a few years in the Science Faculty at a Russell group university. There wasn’t any political correctness (though it was unacceptable to send emails to the whole university saying that the latest wheeze of the Vice Chancellor was stupid). I’m sure that engineers and medicos would also say that they just got on with the job of training the next generation of engineers and medicos.
I don’t think that the PC disease is widespread across all parts of universities, and just hope that everyone who works in such places is not tarred with the same brush.
You’re right – it’s mostly the courses with the word studies in the title – gender studies – race studies etc. Useful course tend to have titles which are transparent as to the content of their curriculum – medicine – law – architecture – physics ; mathematics and so on.
tevita.martin
3 years ago
This shouldn’t surprise you.Varsity is utterly rabid and reads likePravda. Completely without balance or nuance I’ve refused to respond to their requests as you are guaranteed to be misrepresented. Gutter press.
Sholto Douglas
3 years ago
Cambridge is a lost cause under that boneless eunuch Toope (the V-C). I wish the government would withhold a million pounds of subsidy for every breach of free speech.
west.james
3 years ago
I applaud your bravery in writing this, given the very real physical and career dangers of angering the Woke mob. I am saddened that it requires bravery, or that Cambridge has become so opposed to liberalism that bravery is even necessary. #liberalnotleft
Ms Watson, fight the good fight. Win or lose, you will emerge tougher and better than the safe-spacers/offense-takers. When I was at Cambridge it was a bastion of free speech and robust debate. It will be so again only when the students and staff demand that it is. Since staff put their jobs in danger by standing up to these new orthodoxies, it is students like yourself who have least to lose, and maybe most to gain. Good luck and god bless.
A sad story. On a related theme, yesterday’s news story on the BBC website about the resignation of the chairman of the FA was preceded by words to the effect “some readers may find this article contains offensive language”. I missed what was offensive, but apparently it was the use of the word “coloured”. I have just read another article on the BBC website which tries to explain why this word is offensive. For a UK reader, it is hard to understand, as much of the word’s offensiveness seems to be mainly relevant to a US audience. Maybe it was not the best word to use, but was what the guy said really that offensive? I do think the over-reaction in these cases does racial equality no great favours.
Apparently what he said was a ”grisly compilation of stereotypes”: in the words of Sanjay Bhandari, chairman of Kick It Out. Seems he said something about Asian IT workers, and a comment about gay people.
But I totally agree with you. Freedom has died in the UK; freedom of speech has been utterly destroyed.
It is tragic.
I worked in IT for many years and South Asians are heavily over-represented in comparison to their numbers in the population. So it’s not a false stereotype to say that maybe South Asians are more interested in a career in IT than a career in football. Certainly nothing to lose his livelihood for.
Absolutely, I honestly can’t see what the fuss was about regarding the IT workers.
My understanding was that he said that young Asian people tend to seek careers in IT rather than as footballers, which is quite simply true.
Agreed
And yet “Kill Whitey” is just a giggle according to the BBC. Nothing to get offended about, certainly not a hate crime.
For anyone it’s hard to understand. There was a time in the US when saying “colored people” was the polite reference to blacks. That was before black itself started being used, followed by AA and the now silly ‘people of color’ which is about half-step from colored people all by itself.
What this episode does, or should do, is highlight the idiocy of trying to pin cutesy labels on things when simple terms exist. Black, white; they are perfectly acceptable words.
Now the new one is “racialised”
And in Canada it’s IBPOC (indingenous, black, people of colour) !
oh my lord, I’ve heard the BIPOC thing. I can’t decide of it’s more or less obnoxious than Latinx, which Latinos look at as some alien being.
no, no, latinx is a curvy woman of south american origin wearing spandex
Why is ‘coloured person’ wrong and ‘Person of Colour’ (POC) right? Was this really just a chance to get rid of another middle-aged, middle-class white man and replace him – ideally with a POC?
My thought exactly. Your coloured…No you are racist I am a person of colour. Go figure?
Good comment, except that I think you probably need to substitute “working” in place of the second “middle”.
Thank you Sophie for having the courage to speak out about this…
Time to start a new paper.
The Cambridge Disenter?
With another s.
Sounds like you the new paper already has a proof-reader on board 😉
you🙂😂 you clearly have what it takes Tim
… and sadly “No” it wasn’t a clever trap I set …
Disenters?
Thank you for writing this, Sophie. Cambridge is becoming a nasty place, sad to say.
Cambridge has always been a nasty place…the nastiness is legend.
Priyamvada Gopal
Yes, I was going to mention Gopal, but you beat me to it. However, I’ll add, although it is well known already, that this putrid and odious racist creature was recently promoted to a full professorship by the sink-hole formerly known as Cambridge University shortly after saying White was trash. I hope Sophie isn’t studying English where this toxic strumpet peddles her bile. Sophie should find another university to study at, although half of them are utter trash and the other half similarly infected with the virus of ‘wokeism’ and stupidity, and so her choice would be difficult.
That was worth reading just for the “toxic strumpet”. Yes let’s take their terms and put them into service with the glorious forbidden language of the unWoken.
Jordan Peterson. The offer of a visiting professorship withdrawn under the duress of woke opposition. The governmentneeds to introduce legislation making universities do their job of being places of free thought and expression, fining them heavily for allowing the kind of injustices Sophie Watson describes. I’m ashamed to be a Cambridge graduate.
Hang on, didn’t the Daily Mail just apologize for misrepresenting her?
I agree that this intolerance of dissent is increasingly a feature of contemporary western society. However, I have found that face-to-face discussion conducted in a civilised setting goes a long way in terms of discussing diverse opinions.
Adversarial and anonymous forums on Facebook and other social media cause so much unthinking intolerance and group-think.
I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic. These people (the ones “policing speech”, etc.) have no interest in discussion. They are very open about that point. They don’t argue in good faith with those they deem heretics and those they denounce for blasphemy. I assure you, they would excoriate you for using the term “civilised” and would mock your call for “diverse opinions” as colonialist and oppressive. This is what they do.
Well of course it does. When Pomo (actually, simply nihilism in fancy dress) hit the ground, it hit the ground in academia, where for a long time it was corralled, damaging only those students whose brains they turned to pulp. My stepdaughter for one, a very bright lass who emerged from 4 years at SOAS with a severe case of ideological possession.
Then it spilled over into the public sector and now the corporate world. It’s toxic, and and truly “c”onservative government would have put it to the sword way back. Instead they rolled over.
FUBAR.
Thank goodness we have UnHerd for the voices that others suppress.
I do agree with your points here and sadly none of it surprises me. All. universities seem to have this toxic atmosphere now and Cambridge, particularly, should be ashamed of itself for not supporting women’s rights here.
‘When I arrived at Cambridge, I thought I was joining a bastion of free speech and robust debate.’
Then, quite plainly. you have not been following the news or staying abreast of cultural trends for some years, particularly as they relate to Cambridge and every other university in the land.
This is what happens when we let the insufferably stupid go to college and obtain degrees.
You’re thinking of Oxford ! 🙂
Oxbridge, both are more similar than different, much the same in the Russell group Uni I suffer at.
I think you will find that they are not _stupid_, i.e. the opposite of intelligent, but rather _foolish_, the opposite of wise. Indeed, many seem to perfectly embody the sort of foolishness you can only get when you decide that you are too clever to need wisdom. Looks like the plan of producing people who combine intelligence and wisdom by training wisdom in clever people at university has failed. The clever people gamed the system, as they always do, to make it possible to succeed without wisdom.
Very well put Laura. Perhaps a large factor in today’s problems is that wisdom (or lack thereof) is not taken into consideration when political decisions are made.
None of them seem to be able to see beyond the “obvious truths” of their ideology (until they misstep and are eaten alive by ex soulmates) and even contemplate the idea that someone might have a perfectly valid reason for another point of view. It would be better if they could try to work out why someone “could possibly” have a divergent view.
Very well said indeed. I have met very many clever people who went to Oxbridge (or any number of other worthy institutions), and I have met a significantly smaller number of wise people. Sadly, there appears to be little correlation between the two groups.
This is not really surprising :I do not think that it is the business of universities to inculcate wisdom, but if you are lucky, you might gain the insight and tools to develop it for youself. Personally, I think that it should be easier to develop widom if you are educated, but as you rightly say, sometimes learning just gets in the way.
One small point : clever people don’t game the system. It’s cunning people who do that.
I remember when people really did expect to become wiser by attending university. It was where you were supposed to get the broadening experiences that, in a properly reflective soul, would lend itself to that. But for this to work out, you really need plenty of time for just sitting around and thinking, and lots of room for making errors.
These days students don’t have the thinking time to become wise — all the time is spent ‘learning new skills’ which is precisely what they don’t need, instead of developing better judgement. And, as this article points out, a huge class of errors now get you cancelled.
I think it is the Cambridge faculties that have become infested with “Theory”. The students are clever and young and impressionable. Though this is not true of all of them, perhaps not even the majority, as Sophie clearly demonstrates.
Fair points, but as far as ‘impressionable’ goes, isn’t intelligence supposed to play a role in sorting out the sense from the nonsense – or is it common sense that is lacking?
Indeed, and obtaining degrees from insufferably stupid colleges and universities, with Cambridge topping the charts for its toxicity.
This is so sad to hear. But you do a good job of articulating the issues and the fallacy behind it all. Thanks for the article. And, stay with it. Ultimately, the soul and intellect of this country will move past and in the process allow to transform these toxic and blinkered lies.
There is one sharp and direct answer to the frightened clowns who clad themselves in an opinion protective cloak that they fear may be pierced by the thrust of opinions challenging their own.
And it is this:
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
United Nations, Universal Declaration of Human Rights
The Female Sex is an exclusive identifiable group. We have a right to our legal existence as such. Let’s not allow anyone to erase us!
No university should be allowed a charter if it denies freedom of speech . It is by definition a disqualification for being a university .
Why not publish your piece on Unherd?
IMHO a distinction has been missed in the debate about trans vs women’s rights. The problem arises not from trans activities in general, but specifically M2F trans people wanting to enter protected feminine spaces. Whereas it is possible to see trans rights as belonging to a wider class of liberation issues such as women’s liberation and LGBTI liberation from restrictive social and sexual stereotypes, it does not follow that liberation carries rights to penetrate spaces that have been traditionally reserved for women.
Freedom is slavery. Because of course it is. Stifling dissent is what totalitarians do.
Remember; this was the university that rescinded the invitation to Professor Jordan Peterson for much the same reasons. Cambridge University has reduced itself to being one, big echo chamber that happens to be housed in unearned splendour.
It sounds as if the budding journalists at Varsity are on track for successful careers at The Guardian.
Sacking a man for holding liberal and moderate views? This sort of nonsense provokes reaction. The authorities at Cambridge need to remember who is in charge. Ha
It seems that the radical woke left needs to cast their minds back to middle school when, at least most of us, were taught about and participated in “debating” in English class, or even, in after school “Debate Clubs”. If we can’t debate and still shake hands at the end if we don’t agree with another view, or even agree with parts of a particular stance but not others, then we are headed down a very dangerous path. 1984. Thank you for writing this article, Sophie.
Not so long ago I worked for a few years in the Science Faculty at a Russell group university. There wasn’t any political correctness (though it was unacceptable to send emails to the whole university saying that the latest wheeze of the Vice Chancellor was stupid). I’m sure that engineers and medicos would also say that they just got on with the job of training the next generation of engineers and medicos.
I don’t think that the PC disease is widespread across all parts of universities, and just hope that everyone who works in such places is not tarred with the same brush.
You’re right – it’s mostly the courses with the word studies in the title – gender studies – race studies etc.
Useful course tend to have titles which are transparent as to the content of their curriculum – medicine – law – architecture – physics ; mathematics and so on.
This shouldn’t surprise you.Varsity is utterly rabid and reads likePravda. Completely without balance or nuance I’ve refused to respond to their requests as you are guaranteed to be misrepresented. Gutter press.
Cambridge is a lost cause under that boneless eunuch Toope (the V-C). I wish the government would withhold a million pounds of subsidy for every breach of free speech.
I applaud your bravery in writing this, given the very real physical and career dangers of angering the Woke mob. I am saddened that it requires bravery, or that Cambridge has become so opposed to liberalism that bravery is even necessary. #liberalnotleft