“We look like a third world country.”” he said, then gave the thumbs up sign and smiled for the camera, ‘Mission Accomplished’ he added.
Billy Bob
2 years ago
My personal opinion is that defeating crime needs both the carrot and the stick. Those caught breaking the law need to be punished, but as a society we should also offer help to those people who want to try and turn their lives around, be it through rehabilitation programmes, or basics such as jobs or places to live upon release from prison.
From the outside most of America’s justice system seems to rely entirely on the punishment with no support, with predictably dire results in terms of reoffending rates.
California on the other hand doesn’t appear to apply either carrot or stick, and doesn’t seem to far away from anarchy
I don’t know California. I live in a place where the homeless are well catered for. The result? We attract homelessness like wasps to a honeypot.
I’m sure you are right about offering jobs and places to live. But if those jobs and places to live are not in jeopardy if the user goes off the rails, then it’s all no more than free stuff to abuse.
“as a society we should also offer help to those people who want to try and turn their lives around, be it through rehabilitation programmes, or basics such as jobs or places to live upon release from prison.”
Why? Why should I ‘help’ some quasi-barbarian destroyer of civil society? This is all ‘equality’ BS, and lasts precisely as long as the last person who thinks they are ‘equal’. That isn’t normally that long.
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Francis MacGabhann
2 years ago
Clown can’t even call them what they are — gangs — without checking himself for political correctness. Here’s a clue, Gav. When you stop enforcing your laws, people break them. See the correlation?
I’m told Organised Groups of New York Folks was a good movie
James Joyce
2 years ago
“I don’t think anybody particularly cares who’s to blame.” Has the governor lost his mind? I care who is doing this. I want them tracked down and punished. It seems that this was mostly done by non-birthing people. Even in California, there are barriers to entry for female and non-binary criminals, and I call on Gov. Newsom to change that.
I worked for Norfolk Southern Railway for a good bit as part of a subcontractor – and the USA rail Road laws are very harsh because of how they evolved in USA, they come under Federal Law as well as State. This stealing from a train could carry federal imprisonment of years if someone wished to do so.
John Pade
2 years ago
This is what happens when politicians believe sociology and psychology PhDs from leading universities instead of folk sayings.
Roger Inkpen
2 years ago
“organised groups of folks” That’s better – it was just a group of ramblers out for a stroll. The stuff literally fell off back of a railway wagon into their hands.
Actually, the most pejorative thing he did was compare LA to a ‘third world’ country. The PC term is Less Developed Country Exploited by Western Imperialists.
Major gaffe there. But at least “developing countries” are developing, right? So now we have California that used to be developed but is currently undeveloping?
The legions of the politically correct have dropped the pretence that those countries are developing and now refer to them as “low- and middle-income countries”, LMICs. This allows the poorest countries the conceit that they might be middle rather than low.
Allison Barrows
2 years ago
New York City smartened right up when Rudy instituted the “broken windows” strategy.
Strangely the people who value ‘disruptiveness’ always live in quiet peaceful, middle-class areas which last saw a crime in 1923 (committed by a visitor, of course).
Martin Johnson
2 years ago
It is rather amazing that the voting public never seems to learn. Since the mid-1960s, “Liberal” municipal governance has always led to increased crime and social disorder. Eventually the populace gets fed up and elects someone who will enforce the law, and the situation slowly improves. After it has been tolerable for a while, they bring back the soft-on-crime liberals and the whole cycle repeats.
I suppose part of it may be that this is a generational cycle. The people who watched John Lindsay almost destroy NYC in the 1960s and early 1970s were a diminishing share of the vote by the time Dinkins was running in the late 1980s, and the people who lived through Dinkins had either forgotten or lost electoral weight by the time Bloomberg left and deBlasio arrived.
Or, maybe hope is just stronger than experience.
Giles Toman
2 years ago
The problem is certain classes of people being coddled, and thus figuring that they can do what ever they like! Until this stops, America is ruined.
Marek Nowicki
2 years ago
Pivoting attempt by discredited politicians who feels that the electorate sentiment is changing….typical.
Douglas H
2 years ago
OGF? Nice one, Gavin.
Niels Georg Bach
2 years ago
EXcuse me. Why is ‘gangs’ a loaded word ?
Ray Zacek
2 years ago
I’m glad at least that he’s getting out more.
Jeffrey Chongsathien
2 years ago
“That’s because they reveals a political culture that has lost the plot on law-and-order.” and wealth inequality.
First class pompous twit from party of second rate liberal midwits responsible for third world conditions. Quelle surprise.
“We look like a third world country.”” he said, then gave the thumbs up sign and smiled for the camera, ‘Mission Accomplished’ he added.
My personal opinion is that defeating crime needs both the carrot and the stick. Those caught breaking the law need to be punished, but as a society we should also offer help to those people who want to try and turn their lives around, be it through rehabilitation programmes, or basics such as jobs or places to live upon release from prison.
From the outside most of America’s justice system seems to rely entirely on the punishment with no support, with predictably dire results in terms of reoffending rates.
California on the other hand doesn’t appear to apply either carrot or stick, and doesn’t seem to far away from anarchy
I don’t know California. I live in a place where the homeless are well catered for. The result? We attract homelessness like wasps to a honeypot.
I’m sure you are right about offering jobs and places to live. But if those jobs and places to live are not in jeopardy if the user goes off the rails, then it’s all no more than free stuff to abuse.
Daily Mail today
“Carjackings rise by up to 510% across large cities: Chicago, New York, Philly and New Orleans are all experiencing ‘disturbing’ spikes in crime”
Carrot, get a car and the contents, Stick, get more entries on your rap sheet.
“get more entries on your rap sheet” Does this work the same as “likes” on Twittergram and Faceache?
“as a society we should also offer help to those people who want to try and turn their lives around, be it through rehabilitation programmes, or basics such as jobs or places to live upon release from prison.”
Why? Why should I ‘help’ some quasi-barbarian destroyer of civil society? This is all ‘equality’ BS, and lasts precisely as long as the last person who thinks they are ‘equal’. That isn’t normally that long.
Clown can’t even call them what they are — gangs — without checking himself for political correctness. Here’s a clue, Gav. When you stop enforcing your laws, people break them. See the correlation?
“Here’s a clue, Gav. When you stop enforcing your laws, people break them. See the correlation”
Clearly not. But still a good point.
Organised Groups of Folksta Rap is the hot new genre I’m told.
I’m told Organised Groups of New York Folks was a good movie
“I don’t think anybody particularly cares who’s to blame.”
Has the governor lost his mind? I care who is doing this. I want them tracked down and punished.
It seems that this was mostly done by non-birthing people. Even in California, there are barriers to entry for female and non-binary criminals, and I call on Gov. Newsom to change that.
I worked for Norfolk Southern Railway for a good bit as part of a subcontractor – and the USA rail Road laws are very harsh because of how they evolved in USA, they come under Federal Law as well as State. This stealing from a train could carry federal imprisonment of years if someone wished to do so.
This is what happens when politicians believe sociology and psychology PhDs from leading universities instead of folk sayings.
“organised groups of folks” That’s better – it was just a group of ramblers out for a stroll. The stuff literally fell off back of a railway wagon into their hands.
Actually, the most pejorative thing he did was compare LA to a ‘third world’ country. The PC term is Less Developed Country Exploited by Western Imperialists.
Major gaffe there. But at least “developing countries” are developing, right? So now we have California that used to be developed but is currently undeveloping?
The legions of the politically correct have dropped the pretence that those countries are developing and now refer to them as “low- and middle-income countries”, LMICs. This allows the poorest countries the conceit that they might be middle rather than low.
New York City smartened right up when Rudy instituted the “broken windows” strategy.
Newsoms version of “broken windows” will be to break all windows so that everyone can enjoy the equality of shattered glass.
Strangely the people who value ‘disruptiveness’ always live in quiet peaceful, middle-class areas which last saw a crime in 1923 (committed by a visitor, of course).
It is rather amazing that the voting public never seems to learn. Since the mid-1960s, “Liberal” municipal governance has always led to increased crime and social disorder. Eventually the populace gets fed up and elects someone who will enforce the law, and the situation slowly improves. After it has been tolerable for a while, they bring back the soft-on-crime liberals and the whole cycle repeats.
I suppose part of it may be that this is a generational cycle. The people who watched John Lindsay almost destroy NYC in the 1960s and early 1970s were a diminishing share of the vote by the time Dinkins was running in the late 1980s, and the people who lived through Dinkins had either forgotten or lost electoral weight by the time Bloomberg left and deBlasio arrived.
Or, maybe hope is just stronger than experience.
The problem is certain classes of people being coddled, and thus figuring that they can do what ever they like! Until this stops, America is ruined.
Pivoting attempt by discredited politicians who feels that the electorate sentiment is changing….typical.
OGF? Nice one, Gavin.
EXcuse me. Why is ‘gangs’ a loaded word ?
I’m glad at least that he’s getting out more.
“That’s because they reveals a political culture that has lost the plot on law-and-order.” and wealth inequality.