Avoid recession, get inflation back to normal levels, NHS strikes over, stop boats, put a 100k limit on legal immigration, push back the petrol engine and gas boiler phasing out by 10 years, ban woke nonsense in schools, licence fracking. Bob’s your uncle! An unprecedented 5th election win!
‘Stop boats’ is nigh impossible, and I think you would have them leave ECHR etc which would be a huge crisis
As 100k migrants – they’re issuing the visas, so they (Treasury etc) clearly want them
‘Stop boats’ is nigh impossible, and I think you would have them leave ECHR etc which would be a huge crisis
As 100k migrants – they’re issuing the visas, so they (Treasury etc) clearly want them
Matt M
9 months ago
Avoid recession, get inflation back to normal levels, NHS strikes over, stop boats, put a 100k limit on legal immigration, push back the petrol engine and gas boiler phasing out by 10 years, ban woke nonsense in schools, licence fracking. Bob’s your uncle! An unprecedented 5th election win!
Last edited 9 months ago by Matt M
Simon Denis
9 months ago
The Tories have fallen between two stools – alienating the former Brexit vote and failing to woo the old supporters of “Bremain”. Two further conclusions are inevitable. First, anyone except for a Central Office strategist could have told them that “Bremain” will never forgive them; second, that Brexit wants low migration, not futile public expenditure. Finally, it is almost impossible to come back from such a school-boy error. The historical question will be: who is responsible? Answer: Johnson.
“not futile public expenditure”
I am sure Levelling up was/is very popular in the Left Behind Areas.
Simon Denis
9 months ago
The Tories have fallen between two stools – alienating the former Brexit vote and failing to woo the old supporters of “Bremain”. Two further conclusions are inevitable. First, anyone except for a Central Office strategist could have told them that “Bremain” will never forgive them; second, that Brexit wants low migration, not futile public expenditure. Finally, it is almost impossible to come back from such a school-boy error. The historical question will be: who is responsible? Answer: Johnson.
JR Stoker
9 months ago
These discussions are pointless without considering the most important statistic of all – the turnout this time compared with last time. In a by-election in (almost) holiday time, turnout is generally low. After all, who cares and what difference will any result make with a large Tory majority.
In a general election, where the future of the country is seen as at stake, voters are much more likely to turn out. In Selby I suspect the turnout was low because Conservative voters stayed at home, the LibDem vote collapsed and went to the not very impressive Labour winner. In a general election the Tory stay at homes are likely to turn out and vote to keep Labour out.
In Uxbridge (which has got a boundary change coming up, which must be one reason why Boris did not want to fight it, the issue must surely be Khan. Perhaps that got Tories out and waverers to protest? But it is likely to go Labour next time.
Somerton is classic Liberal protest vote, also will revert to Conservatives next time, unless the new LibDem MP is exceptionally impressive (more than Sir Who?).
So actually suggests a quite encouraging result for Rishi if he can find his Beginners Guide to Conservative Policies. And also get some decent candidates, many Tory MP’s at the moment are deeply
unimpressive.
Last edited 9 months ago by JR Stoker
JR Stoker
9 months ago
These discussions are pointless without considering the most important statistic of all – the turnout this time compared with last time. In a by-election in (almost) holiday time, turnout is generally low. After all, who cares and what difference will any result make with a large Tory majority.
In a general election, where the future of the country is seen as at stake, voters are much more likely to turn out. In Selby I suspect the turnout was low because Conservative voters stayed at home, the LibDem vote collapsed and went to the not very impressive Labour winner. In a general election the Tory stay at homes are likely to turn out and vote to keep Labour out.
In Uxbridge (which has got a boundary change coming up, which must be one reason why Boris did not want to fight it, the issue must surely be Khan. Perhaps that got Tories out and waverers to protest? But it is likely to go Labour next time.
Somerton is classic Liberal protest vote, also will revert to Conservatives next time, unless the new LibDem MP is exceptionally impressive (more than Sir Who?).
So actually suggests a quite encouraging result for Rishi if he can find his Beginners Guide to Conservative Policies. And also get some decent candidates, many Tory MP’s at the moment are deeply
unimpressive.
Last edited 9 months ago by JR Stoker
James Kirk
9 months ago
In a once Tory stronghold a Postman wins the seat. In Selby, a real stronghold, a snotnosed PPE Grad. If things don’t get worse, by the GE, the Postie will stay, the boy, his P45.
James Kirk
9 months ago
In a once Tory stronghold a Postman wins the seat. In Selby, a real stronghold, a snotnosed PPE Grad. If things don’t get worse, by the GE, the Postie will stay, the boy, his P45.
Dougie Undersub
9 months ago
The Tories need to stop trying to appeal to people who’ll never vote for them.
They never learn. Alienate natural voters and chase those that will never vote for them. I know a Tory councillor and when asked why they don’t do what their voters want they respond ‘because the Guardian readers and Labour start squealing about it’. I have given up explaining that Guardian readers will never, ever vote Tory.
They never learn. Alienate natural voters and chase those that will never vote for them. I know a Tory councillor and when asked why they don’t do what their voters want they respond ‘because the Guardian readers and Labour start squealing about it’. I have given up explaining that Guardian readers will never, ever vote Tory.
Dougie Undersub
9 months ago
The Tories need to stop trying to appeal to people who’ll never vote for them.
brian knott
9 months ago
Selby , Labour gained 3000 votes, that’s it.
The 6 O’Clock news on Weds had been a Party Political Broadcast for Labour. The BBC News website basically told everyone that it was all a foregone conclusion.
And it wasn’t.
No massive surge for Labour. Tories held a seat
brian knott
9 months ago
Selby , Labour gained 3000 votes, that’s it.
The 6 O’Clock news on Weds had been a Party Political Broadcast for Labour. The BBC News website basically told everyone that it was all a foregone conclusion.
And it wasn’t.
No massive surge for Labour. Tories held a seat
Avoid recession, get inflation back to normal levels, NHS strikes over, stop boats, put a 100k limit on legal immigration, push back the petrol engine and gas boiler phasing out by 10 years, ban woke nonsense in schools, licence fracking. Bob’s your uncle! An unprecedented 5th election win!
But will they do it? Not on current trends.
I’m not holding my breath!
I’m not holding my breath!
‘Stop boats’ is nigh impossible, and I think you would have them leave ECHR etc which would be a huge crisis
As 100k migrants – they’re issuing the visas, so they (Treasury etc) clearly want them
But will they do it? Not on current trends.
‘Stop boats’ is nigh impossible, and I think you would have them leave ECHR etc which would be a huge crisis
As 100k migrants – they’re issuing the visas, so they (Treasury etc) clearly want them
Avoid recession, get inflation back to normal levels, NHS strikes over, stop boats, put a 100k limit on legal immigration, push back the petrol engine and gas boiler phasing out by 10 years, ban woke nonsense in schools, licence fracking. Bob’s your uncle! An unprecedented 5th election win!
The Tories have fallen between two stools – alienating the former Brexit vote and failing to woo the old supporters of “Bremain”. Two further conclusions are inevitable. First, anyone except for a Central Office strategist could have told them that “Bremain” will never forgive them; second, that Brexit wants low migration, not futile public expenditure. Finally, it is almost impossible to come back from such a school-boy error. The historical question will be: who is responsible? Answer: Johnson.
“not futile public expenditure”
I am sure Levelling up was/is very popular in the Left Behind Areas.
“not futile public expenditure”
I am sure Levelling up was/is very popular in the Left Behind Areas.
The Tories have fallen between two stools – alienating the former Brexit vote and failing to woo the old supporters of “Bremain”. Two further conclusions are inevitable. First, anyone except for a Central Office strategist could have told them that “Bremain” will never forgive them; second, that Brexit wants low migration, not futile public expenditure. Finally, it is almost impossible to come back from such a school-boy error. The historical question will be: who is responsible? Answer: Johnson.
These discussions are pointless without considering the most important statistic of all – the turnout this time compared with last time. In a by-election in (almost) holiday time, turnout is generally low. After all, who cares and what difference will any result make with a large Tory majority.
In a general election, where the future of the country is seen as at stake, voters are much more likely to turn out. In Selby I suspect the turnout was low because Conservative voters stayed at home, the LibDem vote collapsed and went to the not very impressive Labour winner. In a general election the Tory stay at homes are likely to turn out and vote to keep Labour out.
In Uxbridge (which has got a boundary change coming up, which must be one reason why Boris did not want to fight it, the issue must surely be Khan. Perhaps that got Tories out and waverers to protest? But it is likely to go Labour next time.
Somerton is classic Liberal protest vote, also will revert to Conservatives next time, unless the new LibDem MP is exceptionally impressive (more than Sir Who?).
So actually suggests a quite encouraging result for Rishi if he can find his Beginners Guide to Conservative Policies. And also get some decent candidates, many Tory MP’s at the moment are deeply
unimpressive.
These discussions are pointless without considering the most important statistic of all – the turnout this time compared with last time. In a by-election in (almost) holiday time, turnout is generally low. After all, who cares and what difference will any result make with a large Tory majority.
In a general election, where the future of the country is seen as at stake, voters are much more likely to turn out. In Selby I suspect the turnout was low because Conservative voters stayed at home, the LibDem vote collapsed and went to the not very impressive Labour winner. In a general election the Tory stay at homes are likely to turn out and vote to keep Labour out.
In Uxbridge (which has got a boundary change coming up, which must be one reason why Boris did not want to fight it, the issue must surely be Khan. Perhaps that got Tories out and waverers to protest? But it is likely to go Labour next time.
Somerton is classic Liberal protest vote, also will revert to Conservatives next time, unless the new LibDem MP is exceptionally impressive (more than Sir Who?).
So actually suggests a quite encouraging result for Rishi if he can find his Beginners Guide to Conservative Policies. And also get some decent candidates, many Tory MP’s at the moment are deeply
unimpressive.
In a once Tory stronghold a Postman wins the seat. In Selby, a real stronghold, a snotnosed PPE Grad. If things don’t get worse, by the GE, the Postie will stay, the boy, his P45.
In a once Tory stronghold a Postman wins the seat. In Selby, a real stronghold, a snotnosed PPE Grad. If things don’t get worse, by the GE, the Postie will stay, the boy, his P45.
The Tories need to stop trying to appeal to people who’ll never vote for them.
They never learn. Alienate natural voters and chase those that will never vote for them. I know a Tory councillor and when asked why they don’t do what their voters want they respond ‘because the Guardian readers and Labour start squealing about it’. I have given up explaining that Guardian readers will never, ever vote Tory.
They never learn. Alienate natural voters and chase those that will never vote for them. I know a Tory councillor and when asked why they don’t do what their voters want they respond ‘because the Guardian readers and Labour start squealing about it’. I have given up explaining that Guardian readers will never, ever vote Tory.
The Tories need to stop trying to appeal to people who’ll never vote for them.
Selby , Labour gained 3000 votes, that’s it.
The 6 O’Clock news on Weds had been a Party Political Broadcast for Labour. The BBC News website basically told everyone that it was all a foregone conclusion.
And it wasn’t.
No massive surge for Labour. Tories held a seat
Selby , Labour gained 3000 votes, that’s it.
The 6 O’Clock news on Weds had been a Party Political Broadcast for Labour. The BBC News website basically told everyone that it was all a foregone conclusion.
And it wasn’t.
No massive surge for Labour. Tories held a seat