An interesting take on things, although some would argue that Bitcoin is a lot safer than the dollar, whose days as the global currency of choice are coming to a rapid end. Unlike Bitcoin, the dollar is infinitely dilutable and it is unlikely that Biden will turn off the printing presses that are devaluing the true worth of the dollar on a daily basis. It could be argued that using a currency that is volatile but trendng upwards makes more sense than using an old-school currency that is losing value each year.
No. Was it ever possible tulips would be the go to money today and not end in the tulip mania in 1637? I posted more bitcoin on yesterday’s Tyler Cowen article. UnHerd needs a cryptocurrency briefing to its authors. If the Taliban do buy cryptocurrency they will be stolen or lost.
The Taliban will trade in dollars through banks outside of the US until they can work out what noises they need to make to get funds released.
Surely the days of comparing crypto currencies to tulip mania are long gone. You might be right, and I do have reservations, although at this stage I’d prefer to be long on bitcoin just in case.
“although some would argue that Bitcoin is a lot safer than the dollar, whose days as the global currency of choice are coming to a rapid end.”
Yea, like Saylor, but listening to him is crazy.
But predicting the end of the USA $ as Reserve currency is premature – as all Fiat currencies are in the same state and none fit to become the ‘Reserve’, but also hold Dollars – and so the $ collapsing takes the globe with it. Some people (crazy Gold Bugs, but real people) say it will ultimately go back to a Gold Standard, as it has through history when a fiat currency collapses – and that would mean $40,000 gold – so maybe get an oz to keep in your sock drawer.
Bitcoin is pretty divisible, diluteable, at 100,000,000 Sitoshis to the Dollar. But how about other Cryptos? 12,000 of them have been created, and almost all are worthless. Tether is hanging on in a cloud of suspicion (it tethers bitcoin in the sense 80% of all bitcoin exchanges from Fiat to Bitcoin and back take place in Tether; a $ Stable Coin with no audit showing how backed it is, and at least half the backing is in corporate paper of unknown quality)
Bitcoin is Tulip Mania without the Tulips (as at least the T Mania had actual Tulips as the basis – a commodity, a real thing – bit coin has nothing)
cslarson
2 years ago
Great that this topic is being tackled but it lacks insight into what is actually possible because it limits discussion to Bitcoin.
Crypto is much more than the volatile Bitcoin. Notably, most of the competition is really around challenging Ethereum, where smart contracts have allowed the development of a rich defi ecosystem, that rivals and innovates beyond traditional finance. It’s worth engaging with what that offers and revisiting the questions addressed in this article because there are crypto assets that do not have the drawbacks mentioned about Bitcoin.
Stablecoins are intended to have a stable value. They range in all manner of properties – centralised ones are backed by $ in a bank account (usdc, usdt), decentralised ones can be pegged to the $ but backed by a volatile collateral (this works), and others like rai and float that are decentralised but not pegged to the $.
This is an important topic to engage with but the media really needs to upgrade it’s understanding.
I want to hear of De-Fi, but mostly of CBDC, and what that means to the private banking industry when wallets accounts are held with the Central Banks.
With private banks no longer creating money by loaning it into existence, as they have for centuries, the Central Bank will just ‘Create it – and Repo it back’.
The net result I can think of is UBI will be the result, as all money is held in these wallets, it can be distributed all over, instantly, and without anyone being able to opt out.
Give a Trillion a year out in UBI, then charge negative interest on all accounts of holders making more money then ‘Poverty’ to pay it.
Time out money that is not spent, end savings, and so end income inequality….
Give cash incentives to direct spending – like 10,000$ for a new electric car. or disincentives, like increasing taxes on gas – or as the wallet is on your phone it is geo-located every second, so charge by mile traveled in Carbon Tax – it just disappears from your account, or appears if you stay home….
Make mortgages from your wallet – it has your credit and social credit score as every penny in or out is logged – as well as who you mix with, and everything…. job, travel, vices,
It is MMT and Social Credit, and a dark dystopia indeed.
Galeti Tavas
2 years ago
Ha, fit right in with the ‘Silk Road’ Dark Web open drug market which used Bitcoin as the money.
That Silk Road’s founder is serving two life sentences, and all his bit coin harvested by the FBI, is not promising though.
Everything I hear of Bitcoin, and I read a good bit on it, makes me more convinced that it exists as long as the USA wishes it to, and if/when at some point it outlives that; it is toast.
But as far as the Taliban, I think the USA should put them on a decent allowance. We had a big enough budget there for decades, keep it going at an extremely reduced amount. The country has no real economy, and driving it to desperation is a bad idea. Better we be friends than not.
An interesting take on things, although some would argue that Bitcoin is a lot safer than the dollar, whose days as the global currency of choice are coming to a rapid end. Unlike Bitcoin, the dollar is infinitely dilutable and it is unlikely that Biden will turn off the printing presses that are devaluing the true worth of the dollar on a daily basis. It could be argued that using a currency that is volatile but trendng upwards makes more sense than using an old-school currency that is losing value each year.
No. Was it ever possible tulips would be the go to money today and not end in the tulip mania in 1637? I posted more bitcoin on yesterday’s Tyler Cowen article. UnHerd needs a cryptocurrency briefing to its authors. If the Taliban do buy cryptocurrency they will be stolen or lost.
The Taliban will trade in dollars through banks outside of the US until they can work out what noises they need to make to get funds released.
Surely the days of comparing crypto currencies to tulip mania are long gone. You might be right, and I do have reservations, although at this stage I’d prefer to be long on bitcoin just in case.
“although some would argue that Bitcoin is a lot safer than the dollar, whose days as the global currency of choice are coming to a rapid end.”
Yea, like Saylor, but listening to him is crazy.
But predicting the end of the USA $ as Reserve currency is premature – as all Fiat currencies are in the same state and none fit to become the ‘Reserve’, but also hold Dollars – and so the $ collapsing takes the globe with it. Some people (crazy Gold Bugs, but real people) say it will ultimately go back to a Gold Standard, as it has through history when a fiat currency collapses – and that would mean $40,000 gold – so maybe get an oz to keep in your sock drawer.
Bitcoin is pretty divisible, diluteable, at 100,000,000 Sitoshis to the Dollar. But how about other Cryptos? 12,000 of them have been created, and almost all are worthless. Tether is hanging on in a cloud of suspicion (it tethers bitcoin in the sense 80% of all bitcoin exchanges from Fiat to Bitcoin and back take place in Tether; a $ Stable Coin with no audit showing how backed it is, and at least half the backing is in corporate paper of unknown quality)
Bitcoin is Tulip Mania without the Tulips (as at least the T Mania had actual Tulips as the basis – a commodity, a real thing – bit coin has nothing)
Great that this topic is being tackled but it lacks insight into what is actually possible because it limits discussion to Bitcoin.
Crypto is much more than the volatile Bitcoin. Notably, most of the competition is really around challenging Ethereum, where smart contracts have allowed the development of a rich defi ecosystem, that rivals and innovates beyond traditional finance. It’s worth engaging with what that offers and revisiting the questions addressed in this article because there are crypto assets that do not have the drawbacks mentioned about Bitcoin.
Stablecoins are intended to have a stable value. They range in all manner of properties – centralised ones are backed by $ in a bank account (usdc, usdt), decentralised ones can be pegged to the $ but backed by a volatile collateral (this works), and others like rai and float that are decentralised but not pegged to the $.
This is an important topic to engage with but the media really needs to upgrade it’s understanding.
I want to hear of De-Fi, but mostly of CBDC, and what that means to the private banking industry when wallets accounts are held with the Central Banks.
With private banks no longer creating money by loaning it into existence, as they have for centuries, the Central Bank will just ‘Create it – and Repo it back’.
The net result I can think of is UBI will be the result, as all money is held in these wallets, it can be distributed all over, instantly, and without anyone being able to opt out.
Give a Trillion a year out in UBI, then charge negative interest on all accounts of holders making more money then ‘Poverty’ to pay it.
Time out money that is not spent, end savings, and so end income inequality….
Give cash incentives to direct spending – like 10,000$ for a new electric car. or disincentives, like increasing taxes on gas – or as the wallet is on your phone it is geo-located every second, so charge by mile traveled in Carbon Tax – it just disappears from your account, or appears if you stay home….
Make mortgages from your wallet – it has your credit and social credit score as every penny in or out is logged – as well as who you mix with, and everything…. job, travel, vices,
It is MMT and Social Credit, and a dark dystopia indeed.
Ha, fit right in with the ‘Silk Road’ Dark Web open drug market which used Bitcoin as the money.
That Silk Road’s founder is serving two life sentences, and all his bit coin harvested by the FBI, is not promising though.
Everything I hear of Bitcoin, and I read a good bit on it, makes me more convinced that it exists as long as the USA wishes it to, and if/when at some point it outlives that; it is toast.
But as far as the Taliban, I think the USA should put them on a decent allowance. We had a big enough budget there for decades, keep it going at an extremely reduced amount. The country has no real economy, and driving it to desperation is a bad idea. Better we be friends than not.