This was especially true when immigration was tied to more rapid ethnic change in Britain (i.e. a drop to 58% White British by 2060 instead of 65% with lower immigration).
I thought we were supposed to regard ‘replacement’ as a mad right-wing conspiracy theory that only incels and anti-semites believed in.
My reply seems to have been deleted. I said that it was only a mad right-wing conspiracy theory when mentioned by members of the north-west Indo-European group.
M. M.
1 year ago
Eric Kaufmann wrote, “The British government has launched a ‘high potential individual’ route to attract the ‘brightest and best’ graduates from around the world to Britain.”
In the United States, politicians supported by the moneyed class in both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party define “brightest and best” to be anyone who excels at science or engineering. Using only this definition, these politicians have allowed Indians and, to a lesser extent, Chinese to flood into the United States. Some towns in California are now dominated by Indians.
These Indians outperform in science and engineering but underperform in political reasoning, compassion, honesty, etc. The areas of underperformance explain why India remains an impoverished, corrupt nation even though it has many citizens who excel at science or engineering. Furthermore, these areas of underperformance have negatively impacted California. The Indian electorate, together with the Hispanic electorate, have elected politicians whose policies have severely damaged Californian society.
The Indians reject Western culture and consider it to be inferior to Indian culture. Like the Hispanics, they refuse to assimilate into Western culture. Indians will ruin British society to the same degree to which they have ruined American society. After 2 more decades of massive immigration, the United States will cease to be a Western nation (and will become a Hispanic nation).
An example of assimilating into Western culture appears in the audio essay by Misa Sugiura. Contrast her family with the typical Hispanic or Indian family.
Haven’t we been here before?
Hispanic culture is Western Culture, the clue is in the word Hispanic.
What you are really saying is that WASP culture is under threat from a cocktail of Mexican/South American cultures is it not?
As to Indians I suspect you are correct, although that hasn’t bern the case in the UK (so far.)
However you will have to be cautious as history tells us only too well what can happen when a people :-“outperform in science and engineering but underperform in political reasoning, compassion, honesty”, if you get my drift?
Hispanic culture is quite different from Western culture.
For example, Hispanics expect, demand, and receive preferential treatment. Get more info about this issue.
Hispanics commit murder at 3 times and 6 times the rate at which Americans of European ancestry or Asian ancestry, respectively, commit murder. Get more info about this issue.
That sounds rather like the Scotch and Irish over here, but they remain a part of Western Culture do they not?
You obviously have little idea of what Western Culture is, perhaps you are not one of us?
Which Europeans for example first set foot on the benighted continent of America. Who built the first global empire on which “the sun never set”? Who were the Conquistadors? Were did the military terms Colonel and Infantry come from?
You need to grab a copy of Hemingway and pop over to Madrid for an afternoon of bull fighting. Then you may understand why they say:- “Me gustan los toros porque est la connexion ultima con la traditione gladiatore di Roma antigua”.
Only in some regions:
This is from the ‘don Quijote‘ website:
“Bullfights are forbidden by law in the Canary Islands and Catalonia. However, the last one keeps on celebrating other festivities with bulls. In Galicia and most of the Balearic Islands, bullfights are legal, but the practice is banned in some places.
In the rest of Spain, bullfights are completely legal. Yet, they do not have the same consideration everywhere. Generally speaking, the northern regions do not have such a rooted bullfighting tradition as the ones in the center or the south of the country. In Madrid, both Castillas, Murcia and Navarra, bullfighting is contemplated as a Celebration of Cultural Interest and Intangible Cultural Heritage“
Asians, as far as I am aware, as well as being an enormously diverse group (and include Indians of course), are not ‘western’. Get a bit more precise in your comments.
Precisely. The
word Hispanic is incorrect and only relates to language.
Do we call a Scotchman English, just because he has the good sense to speak English?
This is getting nerdy and off the point, but Hadrian’s Wall was constructed when ‘England’ and ‘Scotland’ did not exist, has never formed the Anglo-Scottish border, and lies entirely in now what is England.
I was trying to make a GoT joke, north of the border – wildlings , not quite as effective as north of the wall. Obviously it was a rubbish joke, easily ruined by semantics! Ah well.
We don’t call them ‘Spanish’, we use the shorthand term ‘Hispanics’. (And similarly, the term ‘Anglo’ rather than ‘English’ is used for the British-derived US population, with a slight connotation of being the elite group). The Mexicans for example, have Catholicism, baroque cathedrals, colonial towns and bullfights, and owe more than a little to (peninsular) Spanish culture. The term ‘Hispanics’ therefore seems a pretty good shorthand term one to me. (Latin Americans would include Brazil).
Culture matters most, whatever the particular admixture of genes in the modern Mexican population, the obsession with the significance of racial makeup does sound like as pure a definition of ‘racism’ as could be found.
I’m not sure that is true, as the pre-Columbian native population was decimated, principally by introduced disease. But – as if that matters – the obsession with the significance of racial makeup does sound like as pure a definition of ‘racism’ as could be found. All modern humans are extremely closely related, biologically speaking, compared I have heard, to earthworms in lawns a few miles away. Culture does matter much more of course.
Too many crass generalisations there.
A lot of Silicon Valley companies are now led by Indian and ethnic Chinese people born outside the US. They are extermely successful and got where they did on merit. I know – I’ve worked with them.
It is ridiculous to say that all Indians are the same.
Or indeed to blame the state of politics in California on the Chinese. Or Hispanics.
Have you actually lived and worked in California ?
The United States has long been a society of immigration and this has never been a painless process, with regular hostility to a whole variety of incoming groups, including Catholics as a whole for many decades. Now of course for some right-wingers this recedes into a rose-tinted past of seamless integration (especially if they want, say, the Irish, Jewish or Italian-American vote!)
Whatever the merits or not of immigration – and I do believe social coherence is an important issue that is not given anywhere near enough attention – you make a huge sweeping generalisation about Indians – and indeed India. India is a rapidly growing economy that is beset with a host of problems, not least its huge diversity, that is true, although it rather remarkably in my opinion remains a democracy. Indians don’t simplistically ‘reject’ western culture, which is why they have a democracy and a legal system largely based on the one introduced by the British. (Some people on the Right of Indian politics, including Modi, do go further, it is true in their pursuance of ‘Hindutva’ etc, but many Indians don’t like this direction of travel).
Most of all however, your comment, quite extraordinarily in this day and age, completely ignores the entirely home-grown ills of the United States and California in particular, which have very often been promoted vigorously (and to an extreme) by those elites that would have once be called WASPS! French post-modern theory, sub-marxist academia, the promotion of divisive and self-destructive identity and extreme environmental policies and egalitarian educational nostrums provide the real cause of the problems in California, not its Indian population. An understanding of society based predominantly on some supposed immutable racial characteristics is as wrong as it as ever been
And I don’t know what your politics are, but adding to your condemnation the entire ‘Hispanic’ population, however long established, would seem to be an absolutely moronic thing for those people who want to bring the US to its senses, and in particular the Republican Party. The US population IS less purely ‘Anglo’ (which appears to be your real beef) and is inevitably becoming ever more so, with or without further immigration. Were you their advisor the Republicans would never get in power again!
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Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
As usual it doesn’t matter what most of the native inhabitants think. The conservative government seems to want more immigrants that are bright to boost industry while Labour want more immigrants that are likely to vote Labour. A lot of businesses want more cheap hardworking immigrants not necessarily the brightest and best and the general population just want fewer immigrants who will be competing for their jobs and driving down wages and putting additional pressure on services.
In prewar Germany there was a long term immigrant population that contained the brightest and the best who proved successful in many fields in Germany. It didn’t end well for the immigrants when their success came to be resented by a significant section of the population who were attracted to the policies of a politician who promised to make Germany great again and reduce the cosmopolitan element of the country. History doesn’t repeat but it tends to rhyme.
That won’t happen. This article tries to invoke a ‘populist insurgency’ but I really don’t see it. A third of school-age children have a foreign-born mother. They are the next generation of youths.
The white majority includes a very long tail of old people who are past breeding, marching, or fighting. There is no-one to organise this ‘insurgency’ either.
“the general population just want fewer immigrants who will be competing for their jobs and driving down wages and putting additional pressure on services” … and driving up the cost of housing.
Russell Hamilton
1 year ago
“The Johnson government is pursuing an “Australia strategy” predicated on the idea that if you have control, numbers don’t matter. This has worked — temporarily — in Australia and Canada”
When the Howard conservative government in Australia doubled immigration numbers the strategy was to reduce union power by providing lots of cheap, non-union labour. It worked. It also resulted in a lot of ‘wage-theft’ (underpayment) in those industries like hospitality, I.T. and horticulture, where the migrants worked.
Although we have that immigration scheme based on taking ‘qualified’ people, in fact, most of them don’t work in the occupations they are qualified in – or not at a professional level. You can see that by how much they earn. It would be interesting to see how many of these migrants would be let in if their employer had to pay them the going professional salary rate for the occupation that qualified them for a working visa.
Such immigration schemes should be audited promptly by automated confirmation of income, employer and ‘profession’ through the PAYE system. My feeling is that civil servants and politicians may not be cynical enough when dealing with clever and unscrupulous people from other countries, who may get to know one’s own systems better than those who devised them.
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R S Foster
1 year ago
…I’m not sure the average “Red Wall” Brexiteer was much concerned about highly-qualified people from anywhere coming here to make money and create jobs, because actually they are neither “stupid” nor “racist”…
…but they were rightly worried about being displaced at the bottom end of the job market by unskilled Eastern Europeans willing to work “six-twelves” on minimum wage, because they were happy to live eight to a four bedroom terrace in order to remit the maximum amount of money home…or about the building sites where the labourers were Rumanian and the craftsmen Polish, and the Contractor hadn’t taken on an apprentice for at least fifteen years…
…just as well, because the local college no longer offered much by way of craft-skills training in any event. I live in a City of over 500,000…there was a time where the nearest plastering course was twenty miles away..!
And if you look hard, you will see that many of the painful adjustments in our economy are about exactly these issues…industries who had built themselves around an endless renewable supply of cheap unskilled labour on contract with no security, no training and no investment…having to find ways to keep on running when they need to pay enough for a family to live on, train enough to get people who can do the work, and invest enough to do things efficently…
…not just double up on the numbers of newly-arrived and undiscriminating migrants you can exploit for a few months before they work out what’s going on, and move on or go home.
If you want proof, look at what happens to travel when luggage-handlers, cleaners and so on want decent money and fair conditions…you’ll see it at Manchester Airport…
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Jerry Carroll
1 year ago
The elites that rule the West choose to ignore the high premium ordinary people place on reducing immigration in all its forms. The doors are open, boys, c’mon in! Sweden is the latest country to learn the downsides of this policy. No one benefits except the uneducated young Muslim men living on state welfare who feel free to ogle the women and often don’t leave it at that.
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R Wright
1 year ago
I thought the idea of demographic replacement was supposed to be some sort of anti semitic canard or white dupremacist dog whistle.
Like most conspiracy theories these days, it turns into fact about 5 years later…
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Kevin Jones
1 year ago
The 2021 Census results will be revealing without giving a full picture.
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Fran Martinez
1 year ago
Europeans didn’t need visas. The fraction of immigration that needed visas was less than they 20%. Now everyone needs a visa, therefore it is both possible to increase the number of visas and reduce the total immigration. If the number of visas went up by 50%, and the visa-holders represented 20% of the total, that means visa holders represent now 30% of the old-total. However, there are no non-visa holders now. Hence, there are 70% less immigrants than before.
Also, the new visa is only for graduates of the top 50 universities worldwide. Not any graduate as the author implies.
Regardless of whether I agree or not with the author’s main points, it really discredits him when he hides this simply facts.
Martin Smith
1 year ago
Ummm, I’ve always found Indians very civil, humorous and hard working.
You obviously don’t receive two or three ‘phone calls from Amazon, Microsoft, BT, or Visa everyday.
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Jeanie K
1 year ago
“Populist”
Isn’t that the word used by people who don’t want to use the word “Popular” because it doesn’t fit their narrative?
John Broomfield
1 year ago
Replace “meant to lower immigration” with “meant to admit only well qualified immigrants” to be closer to the truth. That mistake stopped me from taking this article seriously.
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Brexit has reduced net immigration, from about 450,000 annually to about 250,000 annually.
The highest net migration figure is 331,000 in 2015. Net immigration from the EU was still positive until at least 2020.
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Britains real future relies exactly in a tax haven low taxation, banking secrecy capital and investment attracting status… so easily achieved, but no politician has the guts and backbone to implement it
Plus a giant kitsch historical wonderland based around the Brigade of Female Guards, The Queen’s Own Nubile Highlanders and the like.
Martin Smith
1 year ago
Replacement is not a conspiracy, it’s a necessity. Our schools are hopeless and becoming more so by the day. The same is true throughout the ‘western’ world. How long will it be before the majority leave still functionally illiterate and innumerate, content to spend time in a lascivious blue funk deciding which items on the ever-expanding menu of gender and sexual preference are preferred today? That’s why we need Asians and Africans, they will have nothing to do with this utter nonsense. Our culture has become so perverse that it is almost dead, and in the interest of humanity, it deserves to die.
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Andrew Wise
1 year ago
I suspect anyone running a bar, restaurant or similar establishment would think Brexit has very effectively stopped foreign workers from coming to this country – there’s a massive labour shortage. Also in other industries dependent on cheap labour.
You can’t have it both ways
There’s only a labour shortage in industries that relied on cheap foreign labour, such as hospitality. If these businesses paid their staff a wage they could live on they’d have no problem attracting the employees they need. It’s supply and demand after all
We don’t want it both ways.
As Billy Bob says, the labour shortages are due to suppressed wages in these sectors which are a result of excessive unskilled immigration. A lot of us would support people in these sectors being paid better and British born workers taking on more of those jobs. A rise in wages for low paid jobs has been one of the welcome (and unforeseen) benefits of Brexit.
There is no absolute labour shortage in this country. There are millions of economically inactive people in this country. Both skilled and unskilled. Millions of trained teachers and nurses who no longer nurse or teach. There is a disastrous misallocation of resources. And an excess of “graduates”. That’s all.
It’s all solvable. Without excessive immigration.
I have said this before – a lot of the economic “growth” under new Labour was a direct result of the one-off gain from the sudden new pool of cheap EU labour – which also had the side effect of reducing consumer price inflation (while disastrously increasing house price inflation).
We are finally correcting some of the fundamental errors of Blair and Brown. Good.
Capitalists are all for free markets – except with wages. When they can’t fill jobs cheaply they petition the government to create foreign workers programs.
“A rise in wages for low paid jobs has been one of the welcome (and unforeseen) benefits of Brexit.” I foresaw this. It’s exactly why I voted for Brexit.
I thought we were supposed to regard ‘replacement’ as a mad right-wing conspiracy theory that only incels and anti-semites believed in.
My reply seems to have been deleted. I said that it was only a mad right-wing conspiracy theory when mentioned by members of the north-west Indo-European group.
Eric Kaufmann wrote, “The British government has launched a ‘high potential individual’ route to attract the ‘brightest and best’ graduates from around the world to Britain.”
In the United States, politicians supported by the moneyed class in both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party define “brightest and best” to be anyone who excels at science or engineering. Using only this definition, these politicians have allowed Indians and, to a lesser extent, Chinese to flood into the United States. Some towns in California are now dominated by Indians.
These Indians outperform in science and engineering but underperform in political reasoning, compassion, honesty, etc. The areas of underperformance explain why India remains an impoverished, corrupt nation even though it has many citizens who excel at science or engineering. Furthermore, these areas of underperformance have negatively impacted California. The Indian electorate, together with the Hispanic electorate, have elected politicians whose policies have severely damaged Californian society.
The Indians reject Western culture and consider it to be inferior to Indian culture. Like the Hispanics, they refuse to assimilate into Western culture. Indians will ruin British society to the same degree to which they have ruined American society. After 2 more decades of massive immigration, the United States will cease to be a Western nation (and will become a Hispanic nation).
An example of assimilating into Western culture appears in the audio essay by Misa Sugiura. Contrast her family with the typical Hispanic or Indian family.
Get more info about this issue.
Haven’t we been here before?
Hispanic culture is Western Culture, the clue is in the word Hispanic.
What you are really saying is that WASP culture is under threat from a cocktail of Mexican/South American cultures is it not?
As to Indians I suspect you are correct, although that hasn’t bern the case in the UK (so far.)
However you will have to be cautious as history tells us only too well what can happen when a people :-“outperform in science and engineering but underperform in political reasoning, compassion, honesty”, if you get my drift?
Hispanic culture is quite different from Western culture.
For example, Hispanics expect, demand, and receive preferential treatment. Get more info about this issue.
Hispanics commit murder at 3 times and 6 times the rate at which Americans of European ancestry or Asian ancestry, respectively, commit murder. Get more info about this issue.
That sounds rather like the Scotch and Irish over here, but they remain a part of Western Culture do they not?
You obviously have little idea of what Western Culture is, perhaps you are not one of us?
Which Europeans for example first set foot on the benighted continent of America. Who built the first global empire on which “the sun never set”? Who were the Conquistadors? Were did the military terms Colonel and Infantry come from?
You need to grab a copy of Hemingway and pop over to Madrid for an afternoon of bull fighting. Then you may understand why they say:- “Me gustan los toros porque est la connexion ultima con la traditione gladiatore di Roma antigua”.
What’s so good about gladitorial combat that we want to preserve something cruel just because it’s the ‘last connection’ to it?
Who said it was ‘good’? But it is very Spanish is it not?
Bull fighting is no longer allowed in Spain.
Nonsense! Who told you that? Some Catalan cretin no doubt.
Only in some regions:
This is from the ‘don Quijote‘ website:
“Bullfights are forbidden by law in the Canary Islands and Catalonia. However, the last one keeps on celebrating other festivities with bulls. In Galicia and most of the Balearic Islands, bullfights are legal, but the practice is banned in some places.
In the rest of Spain, bullfights are completely legal. Yet, they do not have the same consideration everywhere. Generally speaking, the northern regions do not have such a rooted bullfighting tradition as the ones in the center or the south of the country. In Madrid, both Castillas, Murcia and Navarra, bullfighting is contemplated as a Celebration of Cultural Interest and Intangible Cultural Heritage“
Asians, as far as I am aware, as well as being an enormously diverse group (and include Indians of course), are not ‘western’. Get a bit more precise in your comments.
Hispanics are not considered to be white. They are mostly descended from ‘natives’ pre-Columbian exchange.
Precisely. The
word Hispanic is incorrect and only relates to language.
Do we call a Scotchman English, just because he has the good sense to speak English?
I was under the impression that scotch is whiskey and the people north of the wall (Hadrian’s) are Scots. Or wildlings, both work i guess.
This is getting nerdy and off the point, but Hadrian’s Wall was constructed when ‘England’ and ‘Scotland’ did not exist, has never formed the Anglo-Scottish border, and lies entirely in now what is England.
I was trying to make a GoT joke, north of the border – wildlings , not quite as effective as north of the wall. Obviously it was a rubbish joke, easily ruined by semantics! Ah well.
We don’t call them ‘Spanish’, we use the shorthand term ‘Hispanics’. (And similarly, the term ‘Anglo’ rather than ‘English’ is used for the British-derived US population, with a slight connotation of being the elite group). The Mexicans for example, have Catholicism, baroque cathedrals, colonial towns and bullfights, and owe more than a little to (peninsular) Spanish culture. The term ‘Hispanics’ therefore seems a pretty good shorthand term one to me. (Latin Americans would include Brazil).
Culture matters most, whatever the particular admixture of genes in the modern Mexican population, the obsession with the significance of racial makeup does sound like as pure a definition of ‘racism’ as could be found.
I’m not sure that is true, as the pre-Columbian native population was decimated, principally by introduced disease. But – as if that matters – the obsession with the significance of racial makeup does sound like as pure a definition of ‘racism’ as could be found. All modern humans are extremely closely related, biologically speaking, compared I have heard, to earthworms in lawns a few miles away. Culture does matter much more of course.
Too many crass generalisations there.
A lot of Silicon Valley companies are now led by Indian and ethnic Chinese people born outside the US. They are extermely successful and got where they did on merit. I know – I’ve worked with them.
It is ridiculous to say that all Indians are the same.
Or indeed to blame the state of politics in California on the Chinese. Or Hispanics.
Have you actually lived and worked in California ?
and also Jewish.. who excel, and outperform in every single field that they turn their gifted minds to
I totally agree. Some people seem to want to make enemies of absolutely everyone! ‘Hispanics’ as well, in his view!
The United States has long been a society of immigration and this has never been a painless process, with regular hostility to a whole variety of incoming groups, including Catholics as a whole for many decades. Now of course for some right-wingers this recedes into a rose-tinted past of seamless integration (especially if they want, say, the Irish, Jewish or Italian-American vote!)
Whatever the merits or not of immigration – and I do believe social coherence is an important issue that is not given anywhere near enough attention – you make a huge sweeping generalisation about Indians – and indeed India. India is a rapidly growing economy that is beset with a host of problems, not least its huge diversity, that is true, although it rather remarkably in my opinion remains a democracy. Indians don’t simplistically ‘reject’ western culture, which is why they have a democracy and a legal system largely based on the one introduced by the British. (Some people on the Right of Indian politics, including Modi, do go further, it is true in their pursuance of ‘Hindutva’ etc, but many Indians don’t like this direction of travel).
Most of all however, your comment, quite extraordinarily in this day and age, completely ignores the entirely home-grown ills of the United States and California in particular, which have very often been promoted vigorously (and to an extreme) by those elites that would have once be called WASPS! French post-modern theory, sub-marxist academia, the promotion of divisive and self-destructive identity and extreme environmental policies and egalitarian educational nostrums provide the real cause of the problems in California, not its Indian population. An understanding of society based predominantly on some supposed immutable racial characteristics is as wrong as it as ever been
And I don’t know what your politics are, but adding to your condemnation the entire ‘Hispanic’ population, however long established, would seem to be an absolutely moronic thing for those people who want to bring the US to its senses, and in particular the Republican Party. The US population IS less purely ‘Anglo’ (which appears to be your real beef) and is inevitably becoming ever more so, with or without further immigration. Were you their advisor the Republicans would never get in power again!
As usual it doesn’t matter what most of the native inhabitants think. The conservative government seems to want more immigrants that are bright to boost industry while Labour want more immigrants that are likely to vote Labour. A lot of businesses want more cheap hardworking immigrants not necessarily the brightest and best and the general population just want fewer immigrants who will be competing for their jobs and driving down wages and putting additional pressure on services.
In prewar Germany there was a long term immigrant population that contained the brightest and the best who proved successful in many fields in Germany. It didn’t end well for the immigrants when their success came to be resented by a significant section of the population who were attracted to the policies of a politician who promised to make Germany great again and reduce the cosmopolitan element of the country. History doesn’t repeat but it tends to rhyme.
That won’t happen. This article tries to invoke a ‘populist insurgency’ but I really don’t see it. A third of school-age children have a foreign-born mother. They are the next generation of youths.
The white majority includes a very long tail of old people who are past breeding, marching, or fighting. There is no-one to organise this ‘insurgency’ either.
You are hopefully right about the prospects of a similar insurgency but it is not something that is likely to contribute to social cohesion.
Social
The Jewish population of Germany in 1933 was a mere 0.7% .
Most of whom were the offspring of descendants who had been there for centuries.
And less than this by 1945.
“the general population just want fewer immigrants who will be competing for their jobs and driving down wages and putting additional pressure on services”
… and driving up the cost of housing.
“The Johnson government is pursuing an “Australia strategy” predicated on the idea that if you have control, numbers don’t matter. This has worked — temporarily — in Australia and Canada”
When the Howard conservative government in Australia doubled immigration numbers the strategy was to reduce union power by providing lots of cheap, non-union labour. It worked. It also resulted in a lot of ‘wage-theft’ (underpayment) in those industries like hospitality, I.T. and horticulture, where the migrants worked.
Although we have that immigration scheme based on taking ‘qualified’ people, in fact, most of them don’t work in the occupations they are qualified in – or not at a professional level. You can see that by how much they earn. It would be interesting to see how many of these migrants would be let in if their employer had to pay them the going professional salary rate for the occupation that qualified them for a working visa.
Such immigration schemes should be audited promptly by automated confirmation of income, employer and ‘profession’ through the PAYE system. My feeling is that civil servants and politicians may not be cynical enough when dealing with clever and unscrupulous people from other countries, who may get to know one’s own systems better than those who devised them.
…I’m not sure the average “Red Wall” Brexiteer was much concerned about highly-qualified people from anywhere coming here to make money and create jobs, because actually they are neither “stupid” nor “racist”…
…but they were rightly worried about being displaced at the bottom end of the job market by unskilled Eastern Europeans willing to work “six-twelves” on minimum wage, because they were happy to live eight to a four bedroom terrace in order to remit the maximum amount of money home…or about the building sites where the labourers were Rumanian and the craftsmen Polish, and the Contractor hadn’t taken on an apprentice for at least fifteen years…
…just as well, because the local college no longer offered much by way of craft-skills training in any event. I live in a City of over 500,000…there was a time where the nearest plastering course was twenty miles away..!
And if you look hard, you will see that many of the painful adjustments in our economy are about exactly these issues…industries who had built themselves around an endless renewable supply of cheap unskilled labour on contract with no security, no training and no investment…having to find ways to keep on running when they need to pay enough for a family to live on, train enough to get people who can do the work, and invest enough to do things efficently…
…not just double up on the numbers of newly-arrived and undiscriminating migrants you can exploit for a few months before they work out what’s going on, and move on or go home.
If you want proof, look at what happens to travel when luggage-handlers, cleaners and so on want decent money and fair conditions…you’ll see it at Manchester Airport…
The elites that rule the West choose to ignore the high premium ordinary people place on reducing immigration in all its forms. The doors are open, boys, c’mon in! Sweden is the latest country to learn the downsides of this policy. No one benefits except the uneducated young Muslim men living on state welfare who feel free to ogle the women and often don’t leave it at that.
I thought the idea of demographic replacement was supposed to be some sort of anti semitic canard or white dupremacist dog whistle.
Like most conspiracy theories these days, it turns into fact about 5 years later…
The 2021 Census results will be revealing without giving a full picture.
Europeans didn’t need visas. The fraction of immigration that needed visas was less than they 20%. Now everyone needs a visa, therefore it is both possible to increase the number of visas and reduce the total immigration. If the number of visas went up by 50%, and the visa-holders represented 20% of the total, that means visa holders represent now 30% of the old-total. However, there are no non-visa holders now. Hence, there are 70% less immigrants than before.
Also, the new visa is only for graduates of the top 50 universities worldwide. Not any graduate as the author implies.
Regardless of whether I agree or not with the author’s main points, it really discredits him when he hides this simply facts.
Ummm, I’ve always found Indians very civil, humorous and hard working.
You obviously don’t receive two or three ‘phone calls from Amazon, Microsoft, BT, or Visa everyday.
“Populist”
Isn’t that the word used by people who don’t want to use the word “Popular” because it doesn’t fit their narrative?
Replace “meant to lower immigration” with “meant to admit only well qualified immigrants” to be closer to the truth. That mistake stopped me from taking this article seriously.
Brexit has reduced net immigration, from about 450,000 annually to about 250,000 annually.
The highest net migration figure is 331,000 in 2015. Net immigration from the EU was still positive until at least 2020.
Britains real future relies exactly in a tax haven low taxation, banking secrecy capital and investment attracting status… so easily achieved, but no politician has the guts and backbone to implement it
Plus a giant kitsch historical wonderland based around the Brigade of Female Guards, The Queen’s Own Nubile Highlanders and the like.
Replacement is not a conspiracy, it’s a necessity. Our schools are hopeless and becoming more so by the day. The same is true throughout the ‘western’ world. How long will it be before the majority leave still functionally illiterate and innumerate, content to spend time in a lascivious blue funk deciding which items on the ever-expanding menu of gender and sexual preference are preferred today? That’s why we need Asians and Africans, they will have nothing to do with this utter nonsense. Our culture has become so perverse that it is almost dead, and in the interest of humanity, it deserves to die.
I suspect anyone running a bar, restaurant or similar establishment would think Brexit has very effectively stopped foreign workers from coming to this country – there’s a massive labour shortage. Also in other industries dependent on cheap labour.
You can’t have it both ways
There’s only a labour shortage in industries that relied on cheap foreign labour, such as hospitality. If these businesses paid their staff a wage they could live on they’d have no problem attracting the employees they need. It’s supply and demand after all
We don’t want it both ways.
As Billy Bob says, the labour shortages are due to suppressed wages in these sectors which are a result of excessive unskilled immigration. A lot of us would support people in these sectors being paid better and British born workers taking on more of those jobs. A rise in wages for low paid jobs has been one of the welcome (and unforeseen) benefits of Brexit.
There is no absolute labour shortage in this country. There are millions of economically inactive people in this country. Both skilled and unskilled. Millions of trained teachers and nurses who no longer nurse or teach. There is a disastrous misallocation of resources. And an excess of “graduates”. That’s all.
It’s all solvable. Without excessive immigration.
I have said this before – a lot of the economic “growth” under new Labour was a direct result of the one-off gain from the sudden new pool of cheap EU labour – which also had the side effect of reducing consumer price inflation (while disastrously increasing house price inflation).
We are finally correcting some of the fundamental errors of Blair and Brown. Good.
Capitalists are all for free markets – except with wages. When they can’t fill jobs cheaply they petition the government to create foreign workers programs.
“A rise in wages for low paid jobs has been one of the welcome (and unforeseen) benefits of Brexit.”
I foresaw this. It’s exactly why I voted for Brexit.
One off gain is about right. The so admired work ethic will not be present in their off-spring and they too will become pensioners one day…