What is needed is to decide which facts are vital to understanding which way the war is going in the Ukraine. In early September 1940, the key facts were lack of pilots and that airfields were being destroyed quicker than they could be repaired. As Dowding said ” Our young men will have to shoot down their young men at rate of 4 to 1 “. By late September 1940, the fact which was important was that Britain was building more Hurricanes and Spitfire than were being shot down.
In 1942, the fact which would win or lose the war was that a greater tonnage of shipping was being sunk than was being built and this did not change until early 1943.
What are the key facts in Ukraine? Is it area controlled, number of tanks ( T90s, 80s or 72s), armoured cars, batteries, communication centres being destroyed or Russians killed or wounded or days left of fuel, food or ammunition. It may be that Ukraine can destroy food at greater than it can be replenished. Once Russian soldiers are on 1500 calories/day or below their ability to fight will decline rapidly and after two days without any food, troops are walking wounded. Or is it fuel? Russian tanks use petrol which is easy to destroy.
If Russia moves to a siege warfare it will make them vulnerable to attack. Artillery use shells which have to be stored close to the guns which could be easily destroyed by missiles.
As they say amateurs discuss tactics and professionals logistics. What are they resources which are vital for Russia to keep fighting and can they be replenished?
Sharon Overy
2 years ago
There does seem to be a species of magical thinking at play – a belief that narrative really does shape reality, which is very PoMo, and that questioning it somehow helps Putin. Magic again, presumably.
J Bryant
2 years ago
Thanks for this interview. Mr. Roggio provided a much more nuanced and, I suspect, realistic analysis than anything we can find in the msm. I particularly enjoyed the discussion about possible Russian strategy in Ukraine and that occupation of the entire country is not Putin’s ultimate goal.
Even though the Ukraine war has not ended, we are, in many ways, already moving beyond it. The big story are all the geopolitical changes the war has set in motion.
GA Woolley
2 years ago
The Russians have not used their massive superiority in intelligence, ground and air forces, and sustainable combat power, at all effectively. This suggests that the Russian general staff were not involved in planning and preparing, and rather than a carefully prepared and resourced operation, to a defined strategy, it was hastily mounted, poorly focussed, and politically directed. It failed to achieve the hoped for objectives, and now Putin is reduced to grinding down civilian centres, and calling on expensive, and unnecessarily capable, weapons systems. As for encirclement, the Russians long lines of supply and communication with its advanced elements are vulnerable to interdiction; with good Western-supplied intelligence on Russian strength and dispositions, the Ukrainian forces which appear to be cut off could in fact reverse the situation by severing the forward units from the logistic support.
All plausible; we’ll have to wait and see I suppose.
Dennis Boylon
2 years ago
Once again Freddie trying to bring some sanity to the table. As the executive editor why are most of the authors picked to publish parroting msm narratives. Hardly “unherd”. Covid was about 50/50 which is why I started reading. War fever against Russia is about 100/1
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Joe Donovan
2 years ago
“The Russians took Stalingrad.” Really? The Germans failed to take it.
At least half of Russia’s military forces have been committed to this dubious little adventure. What forces are left to defend Russia’s 8000 milesof borders with China, Kazakhstan and Mongolia? You may say that they are pals, but …
Chris Eaton
2 years ago
Who cares about maps? The salient point is that if Russia were as strong as they bluster to be then this war would have been over 2 weeks ago. Putin has done far more to illustrate his regime’s weaknesses than show its power.
What they bluster about, and what they actually think, are two very different questions.
It took the Germans a month to conquer Poland in 1939, and that was with the Soviets joining in after 2 weeks to help them out. Failing to conquer a country of 35 million people in a month when it’s fighting back harder than anyone (even the Americans!) expected, and being supported from abroad with huge amounts of money and materiel, is not exactly an embarrassing level of weakness to be shown to have, even if you have tripped up over your own logistics. Afghanistan illustrated America’s weaknesses; doesn’t mean they’ll lose the next war they fight.
You don’t have to conquer every last square mile of a country to defeat it. The fact that they underestimated Ukranian military power and resolve only enhances my point.
I would suggest another assessment of the Russian army’s activities in Ukraine.
There is no doubt that weapon arsenals and airports (through which foreign weaponry was being imported) have been destroyed but Russia is a military super-power, closely aligned to Ukraine in language and social history – including marriage and extended families within both countries – so it could be that the army has had instructions to respond to attacks but not to initiate them unless provoked, Putin looking towards the future and a peace settlement which will be accepted by the majority of the citizens.
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What I worry about is the “winter war” scenario. Finland repulsed the initial Russian invasion, but eventually was ground down and succumbed. I’m not saying that will happen here, but it’s certainly possible. Of course the situations are entirely different; Putin is no Stalin (a wannabe, sure), and the Ukrainian determination to defend their homeland is impressive (but then, so were the Finns). The West should be doing everything it can to support the Ukrainians short of sending troops, and that includes stopping the gas imports. This man and his territorial ambitions must be stopped.
Joe Donovan
2 years ago
The Institute for the Study of War reports today that Russia is calling up reserves up to age 65 and issuing to some of them bolt-action rifles first manufactured in 1893. Does that not speak for itself in terms of panic and desperation?
“While it is understandable for Western media to be focusing on pro-Ukraine stories”
I’m not sure this should be remotely true. Surely a studied neutrality and a striving for objectivity should be the basic rule of news.
Lol. This has never been true and is not possible in war.
What is needed is to decide which facts are vital to understanding which way the war is going in the Ukraine.
In early September 1940, the key facts were lack of pilots and that airfields were being destroyed quicker than they could be repaired. As Dowding said ” Our young men will have to shoot down their young men at rate of 4 to 1 “. By late September 1940, the fact which was important was that Britain was building more Hurricanes and Spitfire than were being shot down.
In 1942, the fact which would win or lose the war was that a greater tonnage of shipping was being sunk than was being built and this did not change until early 1943.
What are the key facts in Ukraine? Is it area controlled, number of tanks ( T90s, 80s or 72s), armoured cars, batteries, communication centres being destroyed or Russians killed or wounded or days left of fuel, food or ammunition. It may be that Ukraine can destroy food at greater than it can be replenished. Once Russian soldiers are on 1500 calories/day or below their ability to fight will decline rapidly and after two days without any food, troops are walking wounded. Or is it fuel? Russian tanks use petrol which is easy to destroy.
If Russia moves to a siege warfare it will make them vulnerable to attack. Artillery use shells which have to be stored close to the guns which could be easily destroyed by missiles.
As they say amateurs discuss tactics and professionals logistics. What are they resources which are vital for Russia to keep fighting and can they be replenished?
There does seem to be a species of magical thinking at play – a belief that narrative really does shape reality, which is very PoMo, and that questioning it somehow helps Putin. Magic again, presumably.
Thanks for this interview. Mr. Roggio provided a much more nuanced and, I suspect, realistic analysis than anything we can find in the msm. I particularly enjoyed the discussion about possible Russian strategy in Ukraine and that occupation of the entire country is not Putin’s ultimate goal.
Even though the Ukraine war has not ended, we are, in many ways, already moving beyond it. The big story are all the geopolitical changes the war has set in motion.
The Russians have not used their massive superiority in intelligence, ground and air forces, and sustainable combat power, at all effectively. This suggests that the Russian general staff were not involved in planning and preparing, and rather than a carefully prepared and resourced operation, to a defined strategy, it was hastily mounted, poorly focussed, and politically directed. It failed to achieve the hoped for objectives, and now Putin is reduced to grinding down civilian centres, and calling on expensive, and unnecessarily capable, weapons systems. As for encirclement, the Russians long lines of supply and communication with its advanced elements are vulnerable to interdiction; with good Western-supplied intelligence on Russian strength and dispositions, the Ukrainian forces which appear to be cut off could in fact reverse the situation by severing the forward units from the logistic support.
All plausible; we’ll have to wait and see I suppose.
Once again Freddie trying to bring some sanity to the table. As the executive editor why are most of the authors picked to publish parroting msm narratives. Hardly “unherd”. Covid was about 50/50 which is why I started reading. War fever against Russia is about 100/1
“The Russians took Stalingrad.” Really? The Germans failed to take it.
‘..held Stalingrad’ surely?
At least half of Russia’s military forces have been committed to this dubious little adventure. What forces are left to defend Russia’s 8000 miles of borders with China, Kazakhstan and Mongolia? You may say that they are pals, but …
Who cares about maps? The salient point is that if Russia were as strong as they bluster to be then this war would have been over 2 weeks ago. Putin has done far more to illustrate his regime’s weaknesses than show its power.
What they bluster about, and what they actually think, are two very different questions.
It took the Germans a month to conquer Poland in 1939, and that was with the Soviets joining in after 2 weeks to help them out. Failing to conquer a country of 35 million people in a month when it’s fighting back harder than anyone (even the Americans!) expected, and being supported from abroad with huge amounts of money and materiel, is not exactly an embarrassing level of weakness to be shown to have, even if you have tripped up over your own logistics. Afghanistan illustrated America’s weaknesses; doesn’t mean they’ll lose the next war they fight.
You don’t have to conquer every last square mile of a country to defeat it. The fact that they underestimated Ukranian military power and resolve only enhances my point.
I would suggest another assessment of the Russian army’s activities in Ukraine.
There is no doubt that weapon arsenals and airports (through which foreign weaponry was being imported) have been destroyed but Russia is a military super-power, closely aligned to Ukraine in language and social history – including marriage and extended families within both countries – so it could be that the army has had instructions to respond to attacks but not to initiate them unless provoked, Putin looking towards the future and a peace settlement which will be accepted by the majority of the citizens.
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How do the war crimes Russia has evidently committed fit into that?
What I worry about is the “winter war” scenario. Finland repulsed the initial Russian invasion, but eventually was ground down and succumbed. I’m not saying that will happen here, but it’s certainly possible. Of course the situations are entirely different; Putin is no Stalin (a wannabe, sure), and the Ukrainian determination to defend their homeland is impressive (but then, so were the Finns). The West should be doing everything it can to support the Ukrainians short of sending troops, and that includes stopping the gas imports. This man and his territorial ambitions must be stopped.
The Institute for the Study of War reports today that Russia is calling up reserves up to age 65 and issuing to some of them bolt-action rifles first manufactured in 1893. Does that not speak for itself in terms of panic and desperation?